And what exactly are you all clinging to with your future with Monero ?
What exactly is it that is going to get it from where it is now to a world wide USED currency ?
Dark Market adoption ?
Crypto currencies only make sense in the frame of dark markets. Or else they become a very wasteful, clumsy form of fiat.
The idea is that most of the world economy becomes a dark market. Otherwise, all this doesn't make sense.
Jeez i can't count how many times i have been over this with you.
Your preaching to the choir.. i have been a P2P supporter since around 2000.
And a pirate going back to the 80's playing "stolen" Choplifter etc on
jumbo floppies.
You are trapped in your own personal idealism that the world does not share.
I am all for bending rules or being a rebel but you are being unrealistic and your age is showing.
I have heard far faaaar too much silly crypto rabble over the years chanting all kinds of silly ass stupid rhetoric.
I heard it all and LOTS !
- They can't stop us.
- We don't need FIAT or connections to it.
- They can't regulate our coins or put laws on them.
WRONG ..they already did, wake up !
I don't contradict this. You're missing the logic. I said: "crypto ONLY MAKES SENSE if it is anarchistic and hence necessarily anonymous, in the frame of dark markets and if a serious part of the world economy becomes a dark market".
You are saying that it is an utopia that a serious part of the world economy becomes a dark market. This is very well possible, and that doesn't contradict my statement. It only indicates that crypto, all of crypto, simply doesn't make sense, that's all.
My statement is akin to "building boats only makes sense if the idea is that we will transport people and goods over the oceans and seas". Your statement is like "it is an utopia to think that we will transport a lot of goods and people over the oceans". Both statements are not in contradiction. They simply imply that making boats doesn't make much sense, that's all.
Now, the question is: should we make boats with holes, or boats that float ? My point is that, given that boats only make sense when they transport people and goods over the oceans, they should float. If your argument now is that they can just as well contain holes, because they will not go on the ocean, then my point is that that is silly, because the *only sensible use case is when they float*. If your argument is that this use case is utopia, and will not happen, then we can just as well stop right away, but in any case a boat with holes in it doesn't make sense. Maybe a boat that floats doesn't make sense either, but at least, it is the only one that can POTENTIALLY make sense. The one with holes, never.
I hope you see the analogy:
boats are crypto currencies,
transporting goods and services is a good part of the world's economy goes dark,
crypto with holes is crypto that complies to the law,
crypto that floats is crypto that is suited for dark markets (anonymous etc...).
Trust me that won't end well.
But then crypto is simply a useless concept, that's all. Use fiat.
Who the hell says crypto has to be about fighting the police and govt's around the world ?
So what if FIAT has problems ? What the fuck does that have to do with it ?
Simply because if crypto complies to "police and govs", then it is fiat, and if fiat has problems, that is simply because "police and govs" want it to have problems. If crypto complies, it should then have exactly the same problems as fiat, because fiat's problems are *organized* and are the *purpose* of "govs and police".
Show me the quotes from Satoshi and other first day guys where they outlined their manifesto for world domination to fight the govt and topple fiat and abolish all law and create a greedy corrupt money grubbing scam scene for profits.
Satoshi didn't know everything, right. He's not the author of the Bible or something. He did something great, but didn't realise exactly what he was doing. We are allowed to think independently of Satoshi.
You should read two books:
"Debt: the first 5000 years" by David Graeber and
"what has the government done to our money"
https://mises.org/library/what-has-government-done-our-moneyBecause that is where your cute little idealism is born from.. profits.
Don't bullshit me with chanting Free Market like you are all philosophers and are being altruistic with your speeches.
You are shit talkers making pitiful excuses so you can keep making money off of THOUSANDS OF shitcoins
On the contrary, I think crypto is exactly over because of this. It didn't work out. It is now institutionalized, part of the government and establishment games, and it will simply be integrated as yet another financial toy to rip off people.
Bitcoin is now a Chinese government fiat (or will soon be). It wouldn't surprise me that the Chinese gov will possess more than 50% of all coins 10 years from now.
If "crypto works out", bitcoin will be China's dollar with which it will dominate the world economy, like the dollar was the US fiat, with which it dominated the world economy for almost a century. Bitcoin is worse because no freedom is allowed, everything is traceable.
Crypto is just a wasteful way of doing fiat, containing a lot of hassle that isn't necessary when it complies to govs. There's no need in cryptographic proofs if in the end, the gov decides, no ?
