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October 30, 2016, 09:57:17 AM
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funny thing now, with current price, it's like we are mining bitcoin directly

We advice not to buy any ZEC coins at the moment, the coin is overpriced and represented not the real coin value.




Of course, this coin will drop to maybe 10000sats... people that are buying this shit are stupid... there will be 12.5 ZEC rewards soon... do they really thing that one block is worth $10,000?Huh
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October 30, 2016, 10:10:32 AM
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ZEC below 1 BTC within the next few hours...was so nice that withdraw was done manually for this coin and not automatically at all other coins when you mine at suprnova... but of course when you own the full supply...


1. Miners are mining ZEC
2. Report having problems with withdraw will do it manually.
3. Ocminer was working all night.

Real story:

1. Miners are mining ZEC.
2. Ocminer took all the coins and transfer to Poloniex and all other exchanges
3. Dumped miners coins as 3299 - 1000 - 500 - 25 - 10 BTC per coin
4. Buyback coins at around 10 BTC per coin
5. Send coins back to his site to payout the miners reward from step one
6. Counting his profit he made on dumping all the coins that miners created in point 1.


So basically it was the biggest scam ever!!! NEVER, I repeat NEVER there was a problem with withdraws on Suprnova!!!! Always automatically, NEVER ONE SINGLE PROBLEM!!! NEVER!!!! and now there is this problem.... I would say do your own investigation but I think the real story is true.

PS: Who created this thread.... No other mining pools on OPs.... Wink Biggest coin but only one mining pool?Huh

Edit: Maybe someone needs to investigate this based on the block explorer... was there a big withdraw from SuprNova?  But the problem is that he won't be that stupid to do it in big withdraws as he knows how to scam.

this sounds about right
The worst scenario and shit coin ever i seen in this day and totally.... Already scamming over 2 million dollar and jusr recycling their market volume and put into their scam mining pool again.... Absolutely a lot of my friend are lost over 2 btc caused by this shit coin..... And this my luck never joining for trading them LOL

Honestly guys, you should get a life with all your conspiracy theories.. this was probably the reason why ZEC didn't decide for a Post here - too much negative posts.

When you look at the OP's date you'll notice it was posted long ago when ZCASH was testnet only and yes, suprnova was the first stratum enabled pool for ZEC at this point. At this time, I believe it was with "beta1" or so, mining was tested and developed on testnet, withdrawals were also basically tested .. 1-2 payments per day and those were working too.

However, there were lots of issues with ZEC too, just check their issues on github: (https://github.com/zcash/zcash/issues) Payments in that scope like after launch couldn't be tested at all, in peak times I had over 1000 cashout requests per hour and coin simply rejected a lot of them, since it's an anonymous coin payments are done in a special way and not as simple as in bitcoin.

When I saw the first payments failing with all kind of different error messages I asked the devs for help, you might want to check Slack's log for that at https://zcashcommunity.slack.com/messages/zcash-dev/ but they remained silent until the next morning so I had to figure out myself what was going wrong.
It turned out that certain (very big) transactions won't get included in the mined block when certain circumstances are met. Some other pool op had a similar problem and opened a ticket for that on github as well: https://github.com/zcash/zcash/issues/1705
This was adressed quickly from my side but due to the nature of having several thousand payments failed and you couldn't tell automatically which one indeed failed as you had to verify with the blockchain I ended up staying up all night and go through every payment the pool sent. Some went through flawlessly while others failed and needed to be re-sent ... Problem here was that the daemon simply "took away" the funds and didn't release them until I did a full rescan, which was not possible on the live wallet as there were still payments ongoing (needed to be mined and if I shutdown the daemon the mempool gets flushed) - so I had to rescan on a separate machine/separate wallet and send the unspent funds again back to the main wallet etc..
It was a nightmare.. if you're interested in proof, just go through the thread here: https://forum.z.cash/t/suprnovas-zcash-pool-zec-suprnova-cc/ you can see the timestamps of the posts.

I know there will always be some "nay" sayers with ridiculous claims here but I'm not willing to just let that be said, especially not when so much work was involved like in this launch - Maybe you should also check all the other pools, Suprnova was the first pools who enabled payments AT ALL ! Check the Mining Section here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=160.0 and you can see other still haven't been paid ...

Thanks for your patience, back to your tinfoil hats !

Oh and placebo, Kris, my old friend, how's it going with your ICO shitcoin stuff lately ? Especially YOU should be the most silent person at all here Smiley

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October 30, 2016, 10:58:26 AM
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Mining Zcash Ubuntu CPU, GPU, zcash.flypool.org
Complete step-by-step manual for complete dummies.
https://steemit.com/blockchain/@usefree/mining-zcash-ubuntu-cpu-gpu-zcash-flypool-org
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October 30, 2016, 11:39:31 AM
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Mining Zcash Ubuntu CPU, GPU, zcash.flypool.org
Complete step-by-step manual for complete dummies.
https://steemit.com/blockchain/@usefree/mining-zcash-ubuntu-cpu-gpu-zcash-flypool-org

Thanks for the tutorial, nice work and breakdown. I will bookmark the page

                                                                               
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October 30, 2016, 11:48:38 AM
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The only port i can get working for suprnova at Nicehash is stratum+tcp://zec.suprnova.cc:2142 is there a problem with the others?
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October 30, 2016, 11:56:41 AM
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The only port i can get working for suprnova at Nicehash is stratum+tcp://zec.suprnova.cc:2142 is there a problem with the others?

Nicehash should only be working on 2143, i've also posted it in the Header of the pool.. Look for "Dedicated nicehash port".

Here's also a short writeup of all the methods for mining:

http://hastebin.com/cogefowomu.sm

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October 30, 2016, 11:59:20 AM
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The only port i can get working for suprnova at Nicehash is stratum+tcp://zec.suprnova.cc:2142 is there a problem with the others?

Nicehash should only be working on 2143, i've also posted it in the Header of the pool.. Look for "Dedicated nicehash port".

Here's also a short writeup of all the methods for mining:

http://hastebin.com/cogefowomu.sm

Resolving pool host zec-eu.suprnova.cc... OK
Establishing connection with proxy... OK
Establishing connection with pool 52.208.89.224:2143... OK
Sending mining.subscribe... OK
Sending mining.authorize... OK
Error: Received no data.
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October 30, 2016, 12:07:01 PM
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The only port i can get working for suprnova at Nicehash is stratum+tcp://zec.suprnova.cc:2142 is there a problem with the others?

Nicehash should only be working on 2143, i've also posted it in the Header of the pool.. Look for "Dedicated nicehash port".

Here's also a short writeup of all the methods for mining:

http://hastebin.com/cogefowomu.sm

Resolving pool host zec-eu.suprnova.cc... OK
Establishing connection with proxy... OK
Establishing connection with pool 52.208.89.224:2143... OK
Sending mining.subscribe... OK
Sending mining.authorize... OK
Error: Received no data.

Resolving pool host zec.suprnova.cc... OK
Establishing connection with proxy... OK
Establishing connection with pool 46.105.114.185:2142... OK
Sending mining.subscribe... OK
Sending mining.authorize... OK
Received mining.notify subscription... OK
Received mining.set_target... OK: difficulty=16
Received mining.notify work... OK
Received authorization result... OK
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October 30, 2016, 12:39:17 PM
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i tried and tried to get the genoil miner working. all i see is skipping take share over and over with no hash rate

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October 30, 2016, 02:34:44 PM
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Anyone has the guts to catch the bottom for ZEC? There is good volatility in trading this coin so there are good profits to be made if you manage to buy and sell at the correct timing.
Miners keep dumping this coin after they are mined. How low do you think this coin will go?

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October 30, 2016, 02:58:21 PM
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Z CRASH.............

https://memoryholeblog.com/2016/10/28/zerocash-a-cryptocurrencys-deep-state-ties/

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October 30, 2016, 03:24:32 PM
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if oc want to scam he will be act when xpy coin launch... but he is LEGIT i know him !!!!
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Wher i can dowload wallet for windows zcash?
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October 30, 2016, 04:52:16 PM
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ZEC below 1 BTC within the next few hours...was so nice that withdraw was done manually for this coin and not automatically at all other coins when you mine at suprnova... but of course when you own the full supply...


1. Miners are mining ZEC
2. Report having problems with withdraw will do it manually.
3. Ocminer was working all night.

Real story:

1. Miners are mining ZEC.
2. Ocminer took all the coins and transfer to Poloniex and all other exchanges
3. Dumped miners coins as 3299 - 1000 - 500 - 25 - 10 BTC per coin
4. Buyback coins at around 10 BTC per coin
5. Send coins back to his site to payout the miners reward from step one
6. Counting his profit he made on dumping all the coins that miners created in point 1.


So basically it was the biggest scam ever!!! NEVER, I repeat NEVER there was a problem with withdraws on Suprnova!!!! Always automatically, NEVER ONE SINGLE PROBLEM!!! NEVER!!!! and now there is this problem.... I would say do your own investigation but I think the real story is true.

PS: Who created this thread.... No other mining pools on OPs.... Wink Biggest coin but only one mining pool?Huh

Edit: Maybe someone needs to investigate this based on the block explorer... was there a big withdraw from SuprNova?  But the problem is that he won't be that stupid to do it in big withdraws as he knows how to scam.

this sounds about right
The worst scenario and shit coin ever i seen in this day and totally.... Already scamming over 2 million dollar and jusr recycling their market volume and put into their scam mining pool again.... Absolutely a lot of my friend are lost over 2 btc caused by this shit coin..... And this my luck never joining for trading them LOL

Honestly guys, you should get a life with all your conspiracy theories.. this was probably the reason why ZEC didn't decide for a Post here - too much negative posts.

When you look at the OP's date you'll notice it was posted long ago when ZCASH was testnet only and yes, suprnova was the first stratum enabled pool for ZEC at this point. At this time, I believe it was with "beta1" or so, mining was tested and developed on testnet, withdrawals were also basically tested .. 1-2 payments per day and those were working too.

However, there were lots of issues with ZEC too, just check their issues on github: (https://github.com/zcash/zcash/issues) Payments in that scope like after launch couldn't be tested at all, in peak times I had over 1000 cashout requests per hour and coin simply rejected a lot of them, since it's an anonymous coin payments are done in a special way and not as simple as in bitcoin.

When I saw the first payments failing with all kind of different error messages I asked the devs for help, you might want to check Slack's log for that at https://zcashcommunity.slack.com/messages/zcash-dev/ but they remained silent until the next morning so I had to figure out myself what was going wrong.
It turned out that certain (very big) transactions won't get included in the mined block when certain circumstances are met. Some other pool op had a similar problem and opened a ticket for that on github as well: https://github.com/zcash/zcash/issues/1705
This was adressed quickly from my side but due to the nature of having several thousand payments failed and you couldn't tell automatically which one indeed failed as you had to verify with the blockchain I ended up staying up all night and go through every payment the pool sent. Some went through flawlessly while others failed and needed to be re-sent ... Problem here was that the daemon simply "took away" the funds and didn't release them until I did a full rescan, which was not possible on the live wallet as there were still payments ongoing (needed to be mined and if I shutdown the daemon the mempool gets flushed) - so I had to rescan on a separate machine/separate wallet and send the unspent funds again back to the main wallet etc..
It was a nightmare.. if you're interested in proof, just go through the thread here: https://forum.z.cash/t/suprnovas-zcash-pool-zec-suprnova-cc/ you can see the timestamps of the posts.

I know there will always be some "nay" sayers with ridiculous claims here but I'm not willing to just let that be said, especially not when so much work was involved like in this launch - Maybe you should also check all the other pools, Suprnova was the first pools who enabled payments AT ALL ! Check the Mining Section here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=160.0 and you can see other still haven't been paid ...

Thanks for your patience, back to your tinfoil hats !

Oh and placebo, Kris, my old friend, how's it going with your ICO shitcoin stuff lately ? Especially YOU should be the most silent person at all here Smiley

there is a log or something that show all the payment that were failed and re-processed? so we can see this from behind the scene as well, because it is certainly possible for pool to dump and buy back and no one can notice it at all, but if there are log that show proof of coin being only in limbo due to delay or payment that get stuck for error or anything like that, it would be more reassuring
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October 30, 2016, 05:05:41 PM
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ZEC below 1 BTC within the next few hours...was so nice that withdraw was done manually for this coin and not automatically at all other coins when you mine at suprnova... but of course when you own the full supply...


1. Miners are mining ZEC
2. Report having problems with withdraw will do it manually.
3. Ocminer was working all night.

Real story:

1. Miners are mining ZEC.
2. Ocminer took all the coins and transfer to Poloniex and all other exchanges
3. Dumped miners coins as 3299 - 1000 - 500 - 25 - 10 BTC per coin
4. Buyback coins at around 10 BTC per coin
5. Send coins back to his site to payout the miners reward from step one
6. Counting his profit he made on dumping all the coins that miners created in point 1.


So basically it was the biggest scam ever!!! NEVER, I repeat NEVER there was a problem with withdraws on Suprnova!!!! Always automatically, NEVER ONE SINGLE PROBLEM!!! NEVER!!!! and now there is this problem.... I would say do your own investigation but I think the real story is true.

PS: Who created this thread.... No other mining pools on OPs.... Wink Biggest coin but only one mining pool?Huh

Edit: Maybe someone needs to investigate this based on the block explorer... was there a big withdraw from SuprNova?  But the problem is that he won't be that stupid to do it in big withdraws as he knows how to scam.

this sounds about right
The worst scenario and shit coin ever i seen in this day and totally.... Already scamming over 2 million dollar and jusr recycling their market volume and put into their scam mining pool again.... Absolutely a lot of my friend are lost over 2 btc caused by this shit coin..... And this my luck never joining for trading them LOL

Honestly guys, you should get a life with all your conspiracy theories.. this was probably the reason why ZEC didn't decide for a Post here - too much negative posts.

When you look at the OP's date you'll notice it was posted long ago when ZCASH was testnet only and yes, suprnova was the first stratum enabled pool for ZEC at this point. At this time, I believe it was with "beta1" or so, mining was tested and developed on testnet, withdrawals were also basically tested .. 1-2 payments per day and those were working too.

However, there were lots of issues with ZEC too, just check their issues on github: (https://github.com/zcash/zcash/issues) Payments in that scope like after launch couldn't be tested at all, in peak times I had over 1000 cashout requests per hour and coin simply rejected a lot of them, since it's an anonymous coin payments are done in a special way and not as simple as in bitcoin.

When I saw the first payments failing with all kind of different error messages I asked the devs for help, you might want to check Slack's log for that at https://zcashcommunity.slack.com/messages/zcash-dev/ but they remained silent until the next morning so I had to figure out myself what was going wrong.
It turned out that certain (very big) transactions won't get included in the mined block when certain circumstances are met. Some other pool op had a similar problem and opened a ticket for that on github as well: https://github.com/zcash/zcash/issues/1705
This was adressed quickly from my side but due to the nature of having several thousand payments failed and you couldn't tell automatically which one indeed failed as you had to verify with the blockchain I ended up staying up all night and go through every payment the pool sent. Some went through flawlessly while others failed and needed to be re-sent ... Problem here was that the daemon simply "took away" the funds and didn't release them until I did a full rescan, which was not possible on the live wallet as there were still payments ongoing (needed to be mined and if I shutdown the daemon the mempool gets flushed) - so I had to rescan on a separate machine/separate wallet and send the unspent funds again back to the main wallet etc..
It was a nightmare.. if you're interested in proof, just go through the thread here: https://forum.z.cash/t/suprnovas-zcash-pool-zec-suprnova-cc/ you can see the timestamps of the posts.

I know there will always be some "nay" sayers with ridiculous claims here but I'm not willing to just let that be said, especially not when so much work was involved like in this launch - Maybe you should also check all the other pools, Suprnova was the first pools who enabled payments AT ALL ! Check the Mining Section here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=160.0 and you can see other still haven't been paid ...

Thanks for your patience, back to your tinfoil hats !

Oh and placebo, Kris, my old friend, how's it going with your ICO shitcoin stuff lately ? Especially YOU should be the most silent person at all here Smiley

there is a log or something that show all the payment that were failed and re-processed? so we can see this from behind the scene as well, because it is certainly possible for pool to dump and buy back and no one can notice it at all, but if there are log that show proof of coin being only in limbo due to delay or payment that get stuck for error or anything like that, it would be more reassuring


Check my links from above, especially the github link and the links over to the z.cash forum.. if there aren't enough posts of users having issues with the payout I don't know what to say else Smiley

The majority of payments failed with errors like this from the wallet:

    {
        "id" : "opid-a5f6d844-9ea5-4a30-9c19-caa1ca6cb142",
        "status" : "failed",
        "error" : {
            "code" : -6,
            "message" : "Insufficient funds, no unspent notes found for zaddr from address."
        }
    },

Here's a short Screenshot of a snippet from the slack conversation shortly after launch:



You might want to ask the other guys you see there if the shot is real in case you're STILL in doubt.. And there's a lot more in the log, as I don't want to waste my time here any further dealing with those blatant fud, please look for yourself in the slack logs.. I wouldn't wonder if someone would even come up and say I faked that screenshot..

Anything else now still Huh

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October 30, 2016, 05:19:36 PM
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The price still falls can say that this is the beginning of the end.
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October 30, 2016, 05:26:45 PM
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ARK starts off with a positive bonus, ZCash.....anyone really think this shit will ever go back up to 3000btc?  Not likely at all.
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October 30, 2016, 06:01:12 PM
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nice scam...

It is unbelievable that people always fall back on the same shit. Instead of old proven to believe!
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So what do you think what is the zec fair price?

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zcrash  Grin Grin Grin Grin big scam price 1 zcrash = Huh??
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