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May 09, 2013, 01:24:38 AM
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I don't want to see peeps get ripped off, I don't know why this is so hard to appreciate.

*If they are legit, I'm sure they will welcome you in their pre-order.

The videos and previous pictures were not of working ASIC miners. There's no disputing that.
WHY?

Because they are badly photoshopped, cloning tool was especially blatent and deliberately obscuring

The reasons for photoshopping have been provided, other then that photoshoping does not prove a non functional device, so we dont know[

But scrap the *if that I wrote, it's the most dangerous word in this thread.

But I'm keen to see anyone produce a working miner right now and manufacture it in volume.

Still nothing on who these guys are, or their experience, all we do know is they haven't posted any proof, yet and gone out of their way to deceive.
gone out of their way to deceive, only if you believe they were out to deceive

as before


This thread is entertaining sure, like a soap opera, just don't get emotionally or financially involved unless you've seen the real thing and it's been verified. That doesn't just apply here.

The only possible outcome to them producing a miner is that they sourced contacts with the interest they had and decided to actually produce something, but their entire intention with their bullshit 'evidence' so far has been to con people. There is no disputing that, I'm no less suspicious.
Unlikely, they needed at least a design for the asic chip and the pcb and the firmware and the software

you're right, see your quite capable of confirming this as a scam as well

But i meant unlikely to do what you are proposing in a decent time frame


Returning one payment is merely a gesture, have to see what the intention is.
And now they closed there order form and set a new policy

yes, I believe I wrote they should immediately after their last attempt at communicating

so they followed your suggestion?


Now Ionstorm hold on to your cash and do not give it back.

there is disputing everything you said

there's a difference between disputing out of disbelief and any accuracy, you didn't manage the latter

But your affirmations are always assumptions, misinterpretations or self-appointed factoid opinions



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May 09, 2013, 01:27:04 AM
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I don't want to see peeps get ripped off, I don't know why this is so hard to appreciate.

*If they are legit, I'm sure they will welcome you in their pre-order.

The videos and previous pictures were not of working ASIC miners. There's no disputing that.
WHY?

Because they are badly photoshopped, cloning tool was especially blatent and deliberately obscuring

The reasons for photoshopping have been provided, other then that photoshoping does not prove a non functional device, so we dont know[

But scrap the *if that I wrote, it's the most dangerous word in this thread.

But I'm keen to see anyone produce a working miner right now and manufacture it in volume.

Still nothing on who these guys are, or their experience, all we do know is they haven't posted any proof, yet and gone out of their way to deceive.
gone out of their way to deceive, only if you believe they were out to deceive

as before


This thread is entertaining sure, like a soap opera, just don't get emotionally or financially involved unless you've seen the real thing and it's been verified. That doesn't just apply here.

The only possible outcome to them producing a miner is that they sourced contacts with the interest they had and decided to actually produce something, but their entire intention with their bullshit 'evidence' so far has been to con people. There is no disputing that, I'm no less suspicious.
Unlikely, they needed at least a design for the asic chip and the pcb and the firmware and the software

you're right, see your quite capable of confirming this as a scam as well

But i meant unlikely to do what you are proposing in a decent time frame


Returning one payment is merely a gesture, have to see what the intention is.
And now they closed there order form and set a new policy

yes, I believe I wrote they should immediately after their last attempt at communicating

so they followed your suggestion?


Now Ionstorm hold on to your cash and do not give it back.

there is disputing everything you said

there's a difference between disputing out of disbelief and any accuracy, you didn't manage the latter

But your affirmations are always assumptions, misinterpretations or self-appointed factoid opinions





F**k off you scammy f**k!

Ignored, shame any noobs won't know any better than to do the same.

The entire reason the anong64 account was made was to perpetuate the belief of an angst struck believer that invested and wants to constantly propagate 'what if's' herding the gullible to part with their Bitcoins.

Anong64 is the scam.

Look at the posts, the reactions, the relationship, one and the same.

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May 09, 2013, 01:27:42 AM
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And Walrus IS MAD! Goo Goo Gajoob

Awh the insults and the name calling, they dont make me twitch even one micron.

Remember kids, not in any of my posts am i recommending you go buy a unit.

Judge for yourself the merit of the information and challenges i provide, you always need another side to make a good decision.

I am a good virus, i promise not to make you a zombie, more then what society already makes you.
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May 09, 2013, 01:43:33 AM
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this thread is a circus lol, very entertaining to watch, imagine what this thread will turn into if these guys prove themselves, I think anyone who can cancel BFL will go with cedartec, and everyone will be in full retard mode.

I think it would be awesome if cedartec sends me a miner as a good gesture or someone respectable here to give a thorough review
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May 09, 2013, 01:51:33 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-1pmmajr2Q&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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May 09, 2013, 01:53:20 AM
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lol bitcoinorama, calm down, honestly, we all have as good as an idea if these guys are the real deal or not, but we were the onces a lil careless with our money taking a risk.  

I forget the quote, but to make money sometimes you gotta take allot of risk sometimes

lets not attack each other and debate the company, not the community
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May 09, 2013, 02:07:25 AM
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I had a feeling that they might do a partial refund to one person with some excuse as to why they couldn't do a full refund, or offer refunds to anybody else. This is playing out TOO MUCH like I thought it would if it were an elaborate scam.

That said, nothing would make me happier than to learn that I'm wrong. I just really really think they're trying to play you. Lucky break for the guy who got some of his money back.

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May 09, 2013, 02:09:13 AM
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I had a feeling that they might do a partial refund to one person with some excuse as to why they couldn't do a full refund, or offer refunds to anybody else. This is playing out TOO MUCH like I thought it would if it were an elaborate scam.

That said, nothing would make me happier than to learn that I'm wrong. I just really really think they're trying to play you. Lucky break for the guy who got some of his money back.
yea, maybe there will be problems and delays again, maybe im lucky to havea lil over half my money back, maybe im not lol 
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May 09, 2013, 02:09:41 AM
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Why is there still a "?" in the subject?

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May 09, 2013, 02:11:10 AM
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Why is there still a "?" in the subject?

^^ that!

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May 09, 2013, 02:12:50 AM
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Why is there still a "?" in the subject?

Because people (on both sides of the debate) enjoy it too much to let it go. 
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May 09, 2013, 02:13:23 AM
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Why is there still a "?" in the subject?

because it hasnt been proven without a reasonable doubt
No one has really broken their story or pointed out something they have not been able to explain.
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May 09, 2013, 02:13:34 AM
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Why is there still a "?" in the subject?

Because people (on both sides of the debate) enjoy it too much to let it go. 
Stop talking sense

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May 09, 2013, 02:14:52 AM
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Why is there still a "?" in the subject?

Because people (on both sides of the debate) enjoy it too much to let it go. 
Stop talking sense
Hell, I'm a part of the problem, I keep reading.
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May 09, 2013, 02:20:10 AM
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I just don't know why anyone would want to risk money on the fact they can't disprove something is an obvious scam?

That's like the reverse of any logic.

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May 09, 2013, 02:22:56 AM
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i love this...

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May 09, 2013, 02:26:08 AM
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because it hasnt been proven without a reasonable doubt
No one has really broken their story or pointed out something they have not been able to explain.

Wait a week - then you'll see =P

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May 09, 2013, 02:27:09 AM
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I just don't know why anyone would want to risk money on the fact they can't disprove something is an obvious scam?

That's like the reverse of any logic.
Its a big gamble, I'll be kinda upset if they are for real but I made a sane choice requesting a refund at the time.  And an insane choice before hand pre-ordering.  Just hope I get an asic before bfl, either my 64 chips I ordered or reordering this one after they prove themselves.  Bfl will be a fucking laughing stock if these guys manage to ship before them.  Imagine..
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May 09, 2013, 02:27:31 AM
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because it hasnt been proven without a reasonable doubt
No one has really broken their story or pointed out something they have not been able to explain.

Wait a week - then you'll see =P


Wait a day, then re-evaluate the new info they will post and then wait according to that, or panic if thats what you like.

If they are a scam:


Iv'e done much worse on satoshidice, 200btc lost there
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May 09, 2013, 02:29:24 AM
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I got 20 btc ordered on Coinbase arriving friday, I'll be buying more Avalon chips most likely unless the situation here changes
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