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April 09, 2013, 10:33:31 AM
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Dear bitcointalk community,

we have currently only one prototype for testing purposes, also the design is
not complete final, like you see the pcb is prepared for more.
You will be able to buy asics after we have finished the shipment
of all pre-orders.

People who needs more sureness are able to wait ~2 month to order
one of our asic.

Why do we only accept bitcoins on this way, is the most asked question.
We answered this question many times.
What we do in the pre-order stage is to look at our incoming orders and after
a payment is made the unit will be produced, so there is no way for us to accept
paypal or escrow service, we do not need the bitcoins after the production for your pre-order,
we need it before. After a payment is made, it becomes binding. No refunds.
But this is written before you made your order at the top.
We build by order, up to 1000 units.

You can order, think and wait 24 hours, before it expires. But we do not reserve order numbers,
this happens only after payment is made.

We got offers, some people want to pay the double amount of bitcoins to get the unit earlier,
but here we want to clarify:

Every unit has a fixed price of 999$
Every one can order up to 3 units, not more


With best regards,

Your CedarTec Team.


You sound convincing.

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April 09, 2013, 01:10:16 PM
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SCAM

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April 09, 2013, 03:01:03 PM
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I think the fact that their quoted BTC price is good for an entire day despite the insanely volatile market is proof this is a scam. Anybody who's clever would initiate a new order any time the exchange rate changed and only pay when the rate changes in their favor. If it's not a scam then they are not very competent. I would say this should be labeled as a scam since they are currently accepting BTC with no proof of product.
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April 09, 2013, 03:08:04 PM
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This look like a satellite recever board: the gold-plated connector on the bottom right looks like a high-frequency coaxial antenna connector.

If somebody is near a place that regularly deals with Sat-TV boxes they could probably recognize the board on sight and maybe let you make a comparison photo without the 10 CedarTec black squares.

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April 09, 2013, 04:00:22 PM
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here we go again:

gxmining (fun, extreme mining)
sexy Swedish blond ASIC
cedartec (environmentally friendly)
dragon (powerful and fearless)


I'll still hold out for the sexy swedish blonde team..  i hope they market ACIS with big boobs

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April 09, 2013, 04:10:18 PM
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I felt the chips on the second pic don't look very natural.


Me neither, if enlarged they seem to be sitting on top of the pcb resistors, and the middle row is misaligned, the left middle one is a few mm higher than the rest of the row.
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April 09, 2013, 04:19:06 PM
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CedarTec WHERE IF THE PROTOTYPE HASHING? SHOW IT HASHING!!!

iCEBREAKER is a troll! He and cypherdoc helped HashFast scam 50 Million $ from its customers !
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April 09, 2013, 07:58:27 PM
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So I was thinking... JPEG forensics is a real thing in criminal justice. Why don't I just take a peek at the pixel level and see if anything looks fishy?

HERP DERP. The reflection of light off the chips is almost identical at the pixel level. I'm going to attribute the variation to JPEG compression.

Now of course I could be wrong (and I would love to be!), since all of the chips could potentially be very uniform, and are also coplanar, so light reflection could also be very uniform.

But.... CMAAAAAAAN.

http://imgur.com/a/UkNow#0








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April 09, 2013, 08:48:29 PM
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And who still uses TH DIP chips?
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April 09, 2013, 08:55:52 PM
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So, the lesson to learn from this all is?
Maybe do NOT give pictures or qualifications or anything else that can be analysed.   It is far better to have a group of people with no chip experience whatsoever, make physically impossible projections and show some empty boxes (after 6 months)....   That is something that can take THOUSANDS or orders and still seems credible to people.    and maybe have a shoutbox, that your constantly lied to customers can hang out in all day chatting about video games and "when do you think Josh will say something again".



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April 09, 2013, 08:58:25 PM
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So, the lesson to learn from this all is?
Maybe do NOT give pictures or qualifications or anything else that can be analysed.   It is far better to have a group of people with no chip experience whatsoever, make physically impossible projections and show some empty boxes (after 6 months)....   That is something that can take THOUSANDS or orders and still seems credible to people.    and maybe have a shoutbox, that your constantly lied to customers can hang out in all day chatting about video games and "when do you think Josh will say something again".



What's your point? Gotta get that trollin' fix?

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April 09, 2013, 09:02:14 PM
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So, the lesson to learn from this all is?
Maybe do NOT give pictures or qualifications or anything else that can be analysed.   It is far better to have a group of people with no chip experience whatsoever, make physically impossible projections and show some empty boxes (after 6 months)....   That is something that can take THOUSANDS or orders and still seems credible to people.    and maybe have a shoutbox, that your constantly lied to customers can hang out in all day chatting about video games and "when do you think Josh will say something again".



What's your point? Gotta get that trollin' fix?
Do not call me a troll loser.   My point is "I understand why Josh does not want to give his "customers" update photos".   I also understand why Josh called people "cock sucking whores" when they pointed out what was wrong with the photos he DID post.
Do you?


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April 09, 2013, 09:04:34 PM
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So, the lesson to learn from this all is?
Maybe do NOT give pictures or qualifications or anything else that can be analysed.   It is far better to have a group of people with no chip experience whatsoever, make physically impossible projections and show some empty boxes (after 6 months)....   That is something that can take THOUSANDS or orders and still seems credible to people.    and maybe have a shoutbox, that your constantly lied to customers can hang out in all day chatting about video games and "when do you think Josh will say something again".



What's your point? Gotta get that trollin' fix?
Do not call me a troll loser.   My point is "I understand why Josh does not want to give his "customers" update photos".   I also understand why Josh called people "cock sucking whores" when they pointed out what was wrong with the photos he DID post.
Do you?

Your prose is not amusing.

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April 10, 2013, 06:19:07 AM
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Look this entire thing might not be a scam but I do believe the board is real the chip on the other are not they should not have show any photo till they had a working chip.It is easy to see these pics are fake the hand holding the chip is unnatural and the phone that just happens to be covering the chips I mean come on they real must believe were all DUMB.

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April 10, 2013, 06:28:47 AM
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CedarTec, if your serious about building a reputation, I'd love to just buy a chip.  A single chip (I assume you will have extras, from failed dev attempts, and batch ASIC order miss-matches) with the pinout and the chip specification so I know what I'm doing when I design a small board for it.

Best of luck.

P.S.  Your site could use some work.
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April 10, 2013, 07:09:26 AM
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CedarTec, if your serious about building a reputation, I'd love to just buy a chip.  A single chip (I assume you will have extras, from failed dev attempts, and batch ASIC order miss-matches) with the pinout and the chip specification so I know what I'm doing when I design a small board for it.

Best of luck.

P.S.  Your site could use some work.

This!

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April 10, 2013, 11:46:37 AM
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Good job Samurai1200!!

100% FAKE!

If these were real ASIC chips they would most certainly have approximately the same components around their edges. In addition they'd probably not all be aligned, but rotated for fitting and signal delay purposes. Here we see widely different components around the same edges. Impossible!
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April 10, 2013, 05:14:38 PM
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I will be watching with extra interest since I work at the DC where this website is hosted in Iceland.
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April 11, 2013, 07:27:32 AM
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It's no problem ordering a batch of bogus chips with your logo printed on it either, I've been a Microchip design partner for a few years and they do small runs with logo's printed. Photoshop is easy too!

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April 11, 2013, 10:33:52 AM
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Dear bitcointalk users,

until now there are no (new) questions
from your side, everything is answered,
so please do not wonder why we are not writing.
Currently we have no new updates to publish.

Like already said, we will take photos
from a other perspective/angle and will
show you that everything on the pcb is real.

The optimization is near the end,
after that we will do the next step.

Our next step for you is to publish a video,
it will show the webgui, which we already
showed in our gallery, the hashing prototype
with consumption in watt, temperatures
and other details of our product.

Our next step of our product is to start
the mass production.


With best regards,

Your CedarTec Team.
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