Official CedarTec Topic - New ASIC [Scam?]

[wrenchmonkey]

it was an investment risk, intellect plays a role but my decision was done with the information at hand at that point in time, it does not make me an idiot to have played the game of risks.
scammed? not yet, whether they truly are a scam is still up for debate until someone comes out with no money and no unit. At this point we are still playing with probability's and not absolutes, a game of risks not a game of tactics. Obviously now it tends towards an irrationally improbable risk and thats why i got a refund. But nevertheless im still in the game.

I don't think the others in this thread call you an idiot because of your initial order.

The main cause of them calling you an idiot is because you don't stop finding excuses to justify that you payed for one of these.
We don't need your theories on why Cedartec did things or did not. Those theories are completely worthless and only spread doubt that will trigger a counter response.

If you do not want to get a refund on your first order and take the risk, fine.
But stop posting you theories, they do make you look like an idiot, sorry mate.
Let Cedartec do the talking for a change.

HE IS CEDARTEC. He's one of their shills. And I love how he accuses me of an ad hominem attack, for calling him an idiot... In response to his calling somebody else an idiot. 

Him: "Blah, Blah, Blah, you're an idiot"
Me: "Says the idiot."
Him: "Hey, you can't call me an idiot, that's an ad hominem attack! Waaaaaahhh!"

[KS]

it was an investment risk, intellect plays a role but my decision was done with the information at hand at that point in time, it does not make me an idiot to have played the game of risks.
scammed? not yet, whether they truly are a scam is still up for debate until someone comes out with no money and no unit. At this point we are still playing with probability's and not absolutes, a game of risks not a game of tactics. Obviously now it tends towards an irrationally improbable risk and thats why i got a refund. But nevertheless im still in the game.

I don't think the others in this thread call you an idiot because of your initial order.

The main cause of them calling you an idiot is because you don't stop finding excuses to justify that you payed for one of these.
We don't need your theories on why Cedartec did things or did not. Those theories are completely worthless and only spread doubt that will trigger a counter response.

If you do not want to get a refund on your first order and take the risk, fine.
But stop posting you theories, they do make you look like an idiot, sorry mate.
Let Cedartec do the talking for a change.

HE IS CEDARTEC. He's one of their shills. And I love how he accuses me of an ad hominem attack, for calling him an idiot... In response to his calling somebody else an idiot. 

Him: "Blah, Blah, Blah, you're an idiot"
Me: "Says the idiot."
Him: "Hey, you can't call me an idiot, that's an ad hominem attack! Waaaaaahhh!"

Sometimes, you have to draw the line!

[Bitcoinorama]

Sometimes, you have to draw the line!

NEVER!

[KS]

Sometimes, you have to draw the line!

NEVER!

You're an idiot!

[Anonymousg64]

But i can come up with a scenario that would end with me having a unit. Here it is, they were not ready when faced with the community's demands, so to avoid a false start they faked some evidence to get funding and more time to complete an actual unit. And due to strict contract with component providers they cannot provide any Electrical CAD, device pictures or videos. They also do not want to show any stats until its on par with its target, also because stats are not undeniable proof.

I do not believe that, its a hypothetical scenario.
I am not responsible for the resulting electro-chemical reactions that have resulted in your brain from reading anything i have posted.

I've changed my stance. Before you had a choice.

Whether you have been in on the scam or not, you are, without question...a complete, and utter; idiot.

You're so stupid you cannot be real.

no this is clearly ad hominem
by quoting you make you're reply an argument on what is quoted
simply calling someone an idiot is not an ad hominem

[Anonymousg64]

Back on topic, CedarTec is acting clueless right now.

> Dear customer,
>
> all informations we can publish, has been
> published by us.
> We can give out more informations soon.
>
> With best regards,
>
> Your CedarTec Team.

Do i rush for a refund while i still can or do i explain how theyve been busted and ask for an explanation?

[Xian01]

Do i rush for a refund while i still can or do i explain how theyve been busted and ask for an explanation?

You are a fucking idiot. This is totally not an ad-hominem attack. Honest.

[Anonymousg64]

Do i rush for a refund while i still can or do i explain how theyve been busted and ask for an explanation?

You are a fucking idiot. This is totally not an ad-hominem attack. Honest.

no you are?

i already know the answer to my own questions, this is meant to make people think.

[Xian01]

Do i rush for a refund while i still can or do i explain how theyve been busted and ask for an explanation?

You are a fucking idiot. This is totally not an ad-hominem attack. Honest.

no you are?
i already know the answer to my own questions, this is meant to make people think.

No. You are.

I already know this.

This is meant to make people think.

[Anonymousg64]

Do i rush for a refund while i still can or do i explain how theyve been busted and ask for an explanation?

You are a fucking idiot. This is totally not an ad-hominem attack. Honest.

no you are?
i already know the answer to my own questions, this is meant to make people think.

No. You are.

I already know this.

This is meant to make people think.

[wrenchmonkey]

But i can come up with a scenario that would end with me having a unit. Here it is, they were not ready when faced with the community's demands, so to avoid a false start they faked some evidence to get funding and more time to complete an actual unit. And due to strict contract with component providers they cannot provide any Electrical CAD, device pictures or videos. They also do not want to show any stats until its on par with its target, also because stats are not undeniable proof.

I do not believe that, its a hypothetical scenario.
I am not responsible for the resulting electro-chemical reactions that have resulted in your brain from reading anything i have posted.

I've changed my stance. Before you had a choice.

Whether you have been in on the scam or not, you are, without question...a complete, and utter; idiot.

You're so stupid you cannot be real.

no this is clearly ad hominem
by quoting you make you're reply an argument on what is quoted
simply calling someone an idiot is not an ad hominem

He said that your behavior on the forum is too stupid for you to be a real person. He essentially called you a fake, because NOBODY's as stupid as you are. Hence, you're a shill. That's not an ad hominem attack either, it's merely an observation. You take stupid to a whole new level. Is it any wonder people doubt that you're for real with this crap?

[Anonymousg64]

But i can come up with a scenario that would end with me having a unit. Here it is, they were not ready when faced with the community's demands, so to avoid a false start they faked some evidence to get funding and more time to complete an actual unit. And due to strict contract with component providers they cannot provide any Electrical CAD, device pictures or videos. They also do not want to show any stats until its on par with its target, also because stats are not undeniable proof.

I do not believe that, its a hypothetical scenario.
I am not responsible for the resulting electro-chemical reactions that have resulted in your brain from reading anything i have posted.

I've changed my stance. Before you had a choice.

Whether you have been in on the scam or not, you are, without question...a complete, and utter; idiot.

You're so stupid you cannot be real.

no this is clearly ad hominem
by quoting you make you're reply an argument on what is quoted
simply calling someone an idiot is not an ad hominem

He said that your behavior on the forum is too stupid for you to be a real person. He essentially called you a fake, because NOBODY's as stupid as you are. Hence, you're a shill. That's not an ad hominem attack either, it's merely an observation. You take stupid to a whole new level. Is it any wonder people doubt that you're for real with this crap?

Bunch of name calling whores, its an observation for sure, its also an opinion.
But do not worry it does not discourage me from posting.

[Xian01]

Bunch of name calling whores

 Easy there Mr. deGrasse Tyson. We've got a bonafide prodigy over here giving us the 411 on CedarTec.

[KS]

Bunch of name calling whores

 Easy there Mr. deGrasse Tyson. We've got a bonafide prodigy over here giving us the 411 on CedarTec.

...which wlll end up on a VoIP line...paid for by a disposable CC...

EDIT: kind of hoping "not". get those idiots!

[Anonymousg64]

Bunch of name calling whores

 Easy there Mr. deGrasse Tyson. We've got a bonafide prodigy over here giving us the 411 on CedarTec.

...which wlll end up on a VoIP line...paid for by a disposable CC...

EDIT: kind of hoping "not". get those idiots!

ya get them!
i need to reiterate that i am not a whore..err i mean CedarTec, but i like to troll.

[Bitcoinorama]

Cedartec?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=204244.0

Pahahahaa!!

[Anonymousg64]

Cedartec?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=204244.0

Pahahahaa!!

lol, impossible

[Anonymousg64]

What does this mean?
ME:

the pictures and the video have been proven to have been based on a faked device built using a motherboard PCHips M830

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=170739.msg2106271#msg2106271

Care to explain this?

Dear customer,

please be patient.
There is currently a lot of hard work to do.

Soon we will present everything you and others
asked for.


With best regards,

Your CedarTec Team.

Are they planning a massive event with shiny colors to officially announce they are a scam?

[Anonymousg64]

Anonymousg64 = most obvious shill ever or most idiotic person that I've ever seen before in my life. Evidence is right there in your face yet you still refuse to get a refund or change your mind.

If you still can't see it. Let me show you this



Funny thing is, in the "original" photo, the board isn't even straight. It's slightly skewed so I had to unskew it back to make the gif work/look comparable.
Lower of the board is straight while the top part is slightly skewed to the right. So it's not a rectangle shape to begin with.
Could be a camera distortion but haven't seen that one yet. Half straight, half not.

http://www.cedartec.net/images/gallery/ct80hard.jpg

Maximize it and have a look for yourself.

Im not alone in my decision, the original investment as a group was already done with the expectation of a scam and will remain until they are proven without a doubt that they will not deliver.
It does not make sense that i could still get a refund now, even if they have been proven to have faked the device they presented.
Why am i the only one speaking out here, where is everyone else who invested and got a refund?

Again i am not a shill nor an idiot, i have my reasons and rights.

[Xian01]

Again i am not a shill nor an idiot, i have my reasons and rights.

 http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Dunning-Kruger_effect