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November 07, 2017, 11:38:17 PM
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Yes quantum resistance comes natively in QRL build from to ground up and in the roadmap you can find features they are adding on the ledger also listed below and ultimately smart contract integration so that anyone can build their DApps on quantum resistant ledger.

- Ephemeral
- PQ secure digital identification
- Blockchain based ultra secure digital ID.
- Leveraging Ephemeral messaging layer with off chain services: PQ secure data channels, PQ secure comms, PQ secure messenger services, PQ secure VOIP, PQ secure VPN. PQ secure provenance and proof-of-existence services.
- Feasibility of smart contract integration.

I couldn't understand other than smart contract integration part.... do you have any tentative timeline for this feature?

Also, if you dont mind curious to know the difference between natively built QR feature and QR feature getting added in later part of the game?

Say for eg., ETH is trying to achieve QR status through Metropolis. At the end of the day, you both will be QR. In what way QRL has edge over ETH being natively built
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November 07, 2017, 11:52:57 PM
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QRL could easily hit top 10 on a longer term HODL. Great dev team with a real vision, and they produce more and better results of less financing than most new cryptos!

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November 08, 2017, 07:39:32 AM
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Yes quantum resistance comes natively in QRL build from to ground up and in the roadmap you can find features they are adding on the ledger also listed below and ultimately smart contract integration so that anyone can build their DApps on quantum resistant ledger.

- Ephemeral
- PQ secure digital identification
- Blockchain based ultra secure digital ID.
- Leveraging Ephemeral messaging layer with off chain services: PQ secure data channels, PQ secure comms, PQ secure messenger services, PQ secure VOIP, PQ secure VPN. PQ secure provenance and proof-of-existence services.
- Feasibility of smart contract integration.

I couldn't understand other than smart contract integration part.... do you have any tentative timeline for this feature?

Also, if you dont mind curious to know the difference between natively built QR feature and QR feature getting added in later part of the game?

Say for eg., ETH is trying to achieve QR status through Metropolis. At the end of the day, you both will be QR. In what way QRL has edge over ETH being natively built

To save time I quote an earlier post of mine below which should answer some of your questions.

About the timeline the teams current priority is to get QRL's unique POS code locked. It is already very stable from what I can tell on testnet and after that heavy security testing and external auditing towards the mainnet launch by year end. Smart contract integration is scheduled for 2018. The main developer has shared some thoughts on smart contracts in general and currently there is no perfect implementation of smart contracts on any chain not even Ethereum. QRL could also change that. They have not yet revealed all their plans.

Also remember that Ethereum is still depending on POW and is trying to move to POS on some distant schedule.

QRL will be fully quantum resistant and it's not optional it's forced on every address and on POS from launch so QRL will be ways ahead of Ethereum in terms of security and scalability.

I still dont get it what QRL makes unique. There are already quantum resistant coins out there and it seems to be no big problem to integrate quantum resistant mechanism in existing coins in the future.
So can anyone explain me what QRL makes special? I really dont understand it but i want Cheesy

No there is no quantum resistant crypto out there other than IOTA, but IOTA is a DAG (+ last time I checked the consensus in IOTA is centralized it's not even decentralized). I know there have been a few cryptos to make this claim because they use really long keys or whatever, but they still use Elliptic-curve cryptography. Quantum computer can use shor's algorithm to break this kind of cryptography which is used basicly in all crypto's today.

Yes it is a big problem to integrate real quantum resistance or they would have done it already and most of them don't even have any plans to do it. Ethereum is saying they will do it, but the way Vitalik is saying now that they plan to do it is to implement one time keys scheme and it will be optional. One time key scheme will simply not be enough it's more like a marketing stunt and Vitalik can't implement any real quantum resistant solution because that would bottleneck he's already struggling network. He wants the network to scale or the idea of Ethereum dies and what is even worse is that it will be optional that leaves a lot of addresses compromised and will be devastating in a post QC event.

What is unique in QRL you ask?

1) Use of stateful XMSS signatures to secure addresses.
2) Custom hash-based POS algorithm generating randomness using hash-based PRF and iterative keyed hash-chains.
3) Ephemeral messaging layer with anonymous completely private post-quantum secure end-end data channels.

I would also add that the team is unique. They even have a post-quantum cryptography researcher in the team (which there are only a few in the whole World) who is also working on a post-quantum protection project funded by the European Commission. The lead dev is really a genius and most friendly person I have met in crypto and they are not greedy. They could have have collected 10's or 100's of millions for this project like many others have done, but they capped crowdfund at 4M$ because anything more would just be greed. They really believe in their vision and that this is important for the World. Rest of the team is just as awesome they have really delivered these past months. You can see this on Github and if you join the alpha testers.

As some wise man once said. Invest in people, not ideas.

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November 08, 2017, 03:12:04 PM
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Honestly top 10 doesn't really matter, in a few years we will see many more cryptos with billion dollar market caps as most decent alts will grow. QRL will have a huge spike in value in the upcoming years with many other alts, most people are going to make a lot of money just from holding long term.

QRL is still in an early phase of development and it has a lot of room to grow, the price will rise with time and the devs hard work.

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November 08, 2017, 05:19:22 PM
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Quantum resistant blockchain is a good idea but their is already many project working on it and usually it is just a security feature of the project and not them main feature. Your coin should bring something else or you should better put your effort to help some already working poject with your competences in quantum resistant blockchain.

Your post is BS. What are these projects? You don't even know a lot about this one. Hence your shitty opinion.
that's exactly what i was thinking.

can't wait for the project to kick-off.

been hodling for over 6 months.
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November 08, 2017, 08:59:14 PM
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I've got plenty of time, take things slowly. Good tech deserves recognition, not hype.

Active codebase! You guys are doing great!

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November 09, 2017, 02:25:13 AM
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Thanks WilderX for a nice and neat explanation. Though I couldn't understand the difference between native built QR n the feature getting added in the later part as the jargon are like greek n latin  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Good luck for the project!
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November 09, 2017, 05:15:58 AM
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Thanks WilderX for a nice and neat explanation. Though I couldn't understand the difference between native built QR n the feature getting added in the later part as the jargon are like greek n latin  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Good luck for the project!

To put simply! It would be so much work to incorporate QR in to an existing project that it would be just better to start from scratch. Also you would have to fork the coin to implement the update and that alone comes with a whole world of complications. 
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November 09, 2017, 07:36:32 AM
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Slack hyperlink fails. Make sure you publish correct operating link.

Hi, we are not on slack anymore, but discord: https://discordapp.com/invite/BheKAZb

Where did you even find that slack link? It's not in the OP?

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November 09, 2017, 07:55:44 AM
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https://singularityhub.com/2017/11/05/is-quantum-computing-an-existential-threat-to-blockchain-technology/

QRL mentioned  Wink

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November 09, 2017, 08:20:27 AM
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Below some recent development updates for those interested:

QRL Development Pulse - Week 43
tl;dr Public API using gRPC in testnet + webwallet. Plug and play today with a protobuf file (possible refactoring ahead)! PIP installer is in.

- Removed unused P2P services
- gRPC Public API is now running in testnet (most objects are now stored as protobuf)
- Wallet is now available and using gRPC
- pip installer is now the new standard
- Code coverage is at 29%
- Automatic height detection from signatures

QRL Development Pulse - Week 44
- Ledger wallet integration being worked on
- Possible to generate keys in the background, so it doesn't block processes
- Very long refactoring of chain/chainbuffer + unit testing.
- Finishing P2P for gRPC.
- New integration testing infrastructure in Travis. A testnet is launched every night.

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November 10, 2017, 05:04:47 AM
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Bought in ICO, sold out now.  Was looking to long term hold, appears I ought to have just sold when it pumped.Appreciate the transparency, depending how this smoothies out in the next few days a legitimate motion may be required to recuperate lost worth. The address provided does indeed show more than a million QRL relocating to Bittrex, which looks like the founder banked in the hype.Much more BTC for XBY at least.

Don't be ridiculous! Team has been transparent from day 1, does your real name start with a J? Haha


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November 10, 2017, 07:30:40 AM
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Bought in ICO, sold out now.  Was looking to long term hold, appears I ought to have just sold when it pumped.Appreciate the transparency, depending how this smoothies out in the next few days a legitimate motion may be required to recuperate lost worth. The address provided does indeed show more than a million QRL relocating to Bittrex, which looks like the founder banked in the hype.Much more BTC for XBY at least.
LOL, so you trying to say you sold because you believe he sold 1 mil. QRL at all time high? So you saying he sold in june, made about 2 mil. and now still works as a doctor to cover up his riches and pretending he still needs to work besides managing a blockchian project?  Roll Eyes And you sell now.. Months later. You quick to react man hahaha. You full of shit. You were never in the ICO. If so, you would have a closer eye on the project and know what they up to the next year. If that becomes common knowledge, QRL will explode. Everybody zones out now as soon as they read quantum. Very few people know what QRL is about besides being QR. But people who know won't sell now. Sure as hell not because of Jomari FUD that's months old now.
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November 10, 2017, 12:35:59 PM
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Bought in ICO, sold out now.  Was looking to long term hold, appears I ought to have just sold when it pumped.Appreciate the transparency, depending how this smoothies out in the next few days a legitimate motion may be required to recuperate lost worth. The address provided does indeed show more than a million QRL relocating to Bittrex, which looks like the founder banked in the hype.Much more BTC for XBY at least.
LOL, so you trying to say you sold because you believe he sold 1 mil. QRL at all time high? So you saying he sold in june, made about 2 mil. and now still works as a doctor to cover up his riches and pretending he still needs to work besides managing a blockchian project?  Roll Eyes And you sell now.. Months later. You quick to react man hahaha. You full of shit. You were never in the ICO. If so, you would have a closer eye on the project and know what they up to the next year. If that becomes common knowledge, QRL will explode. Everybody zones out now as soon as they read quantum. Very few people know what QRL is about besides being QR. But people who know won't sell now. Sure as hell not because of Jomari FUD that's months old now.


Dev already admitted to this. Dev is a doctor with a lambo, not a computer scientist. You are in denial.
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November 10, 2017, 12:43:20 PM
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Today it has been announced that bitcoin encryption will be broken by 2027 as its not completely ASIC resistant , at that time QRL will lead
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November 10, 2017, 01:03:54 PM
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Where can I buy tokens?

Hi you can choose a market from below link (more will be available after launch):

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/quantum-resistant-ledger/#markets

Bittrex is the most common currently.

https://bittrex.com/Market/Index?MarketName=BTC-QRL

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November 10, 2017, 01:06:54 PM
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Bought in ICO, sold out now.  Was looking to long term hold, appears I ought to have just sold when it pumped.Appreciate the transparency, depending how this smoothies out in the next few days a legitimate motion may be required to recuperate lost worth. The address provided does indeed show more than a million QRL relocating to Bittrex, which looks like the founder banked in the hype.Much more BTC for XBY at least.
LOL, so you trying to say you sold because you believe he sold 1 mil. QRL at all time high? So you saying he sold in june, made about 2 mil. and now still works as a doctor to cover up his riches and pretending he still needs to work besides managing a blockchian project?  Roll Eyes And you sell now.. Months later. You quick to react man hahaha. You full of shit. You were never in the ICO. If so, you would have a closer eye on the project and know what they up to the next year. If that becomes common knowledge, QRL will explode. Everybody zones out now as soon as they read quantum. Very few people know what QRL is about besides being QR. But people who know won't sell now. Sure as hell not because of Jomari FUD that's months old now.


Dev already admitted to this. Dev is a doctor with a lambo, not a computer scientist. You are in denial.

Why are you still here? Nobody needs you here.
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November 10, 2017, 01:17:39 PM
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Bought in ICO, sold out now.  Was looking to long term hold, appears I ought to have just sold when it pumped.Appreciate the transparency, depending how this smoothies out in the next few days a legitimate motion may be required to recuperate lost worth. The address provided does indeed show more than a million QRL relocating to Bittrex, which looks like the founder banked in the hype.Much more BTC for XBY at least.
LOL, so you trying to say you sold because you believe he sold 1 mil. QRL at all time high? So you saying he sold in june, made about 2 mil. and now still works as a doctor to cover up his riches and pretending he still needs to work besides managing a blockchian project?  Roll Eyes And you sell now.. Months later. You quick to react man hahaha. You full of shit. You were never in the ICO. If so, you would have a closer eye on the project and know what they up to the next year. If that becomes common knowledge, QRL will explode. Everybody zones out now as soon as they read quantum. Very few people know what QRL is about besides being QR. But people who know won't sell now. Sure as hell not because of Jomari FUD that's months old now.


Dev already admitted to this. Dev is a doctor with a lambo, not a computer scientist. You are in denial.

Why are you still here? Nobody needs you here.

He is looking for a buy low opportunity. It is clear now there is no place he rather be refreshing this thread every minute. He also has a hard-on for Dr. Peter and his lambo.

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November 10, 2017, 03:36:24 PM
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What is going on ? Waiting for mainnet in december? Tired of holding this..
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November 10, 2017, 03:48:14 PM
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What is going on ? Waiting for mainnet in december? Tired of holding this..

Please dump your tokens

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