Is taxation theft?

[Chikitita2004]

I dont think so. No taxation, there will be no way a nation can stand. No means to start a new project, no means to finace soldiers protecting the country, public schools and other public institutions for thr benefits of its citizens. No taxation, I dont know how a country could continue.

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[BADecker]

I dont think so. No taxation, there will be no way a nation can stand. No means to start a new project, no means to finace soldiers protecting the country, public schools and other public institutions for thr benefits of its citizens. No taxation, I dont know how a country could continue.

If you go to Walmart to buy something, does Walmart force a lot of things on you that you don't want? Do they take your money without giving you what you want?

Anybody who thinks that government has to tax us to be successful, is simply not looking at most of the picture. Rather than being taxed by government, let government offer their services to us, so that we can buy what we want from them. If they would do that, people would be so happy with government that they would GIVE government the same amounts as taxes and more.

Do we need a military? If we don't have government, the thing we do is get together and buy mercenaries when we need a military. How do we know that this can be successful? Because that is how all the governments raised their first military... through hiring mercenaries from the general populace or other countries.

It's only after governments became strong that they started to used the military to enforce taxation... taxation, which is really slavery.

We don't need taxation. It is taxation that is slowing down progress. It is taxation that is making slaves of the people.

Look in the dictionary. The prefix "pro" is opposite of the prefix "con"... just as progress is opposite of congress.

[mOgliE]

If you go to Walmart to buy something, does Walmart force a lot of things on you that you don't want? Do they take your money without giving you what you want?

Yeah that's basically how advertisement works.

[BADecker]

If you go to Walmart to buy something, does Walmart force a lot of things on you that you don't want? Do they take your money without giving you what you want?

Yeah that's basically how advertisement works.

And there are tons of people, many right in this thread, who have been convinced by government's tax talk, that we need taxes, when we would be better without them.

[easemypain]

Theft is taking property (ies) without the legal authority to do so. Of course, taxation is approved by law and therefore is not theft.

Some people call it theft may be because they are forced to give up money that they would not otherwise want to give.

[coolcoinz]

Theft is taking property (ies) without the legal authority to do so. Of course, taxation is approved by law and therefore is not theft.

Some people call it theft may be because they are forced to give up money that they would not otherwise want to give.

Legal authority means nothing if the thief can set their own laws. One of the most important principles of the law is equality, which doesn't exist when you're confronted with the the lawgiver. What would you say if I had the authority to set the law and made it so that you owe me money every year at 1% of your income? You wouldn't be to happy, but it might find it acceptable. The next year it would be 2%, and so on. At which point do you really start fighting it? When they decide that you owe them 10%, 20%, or maybe 50%? Many countries ramp up taxation and people are too scared to say enough.

[KingScorpio]

jes abandon the government, the sooner the better, you savages will see the consequences if foreign countries will consider your "region" to be wilderness.

not to mention that the society changes into a form of not trusting each other anymore.

free markets are an illusion

[JSRAW]

Yes, if you are using roads, electricity, gas, medical or any kind of facility, you come under tax bracket etc and not paying your taxes then you are a thief. period

If you are living by your self in Himalayas or woods and not using or getting the benefit of any of the following perks then it's not theft.  

[BADecker]

Yes, if you are using roads, electricity, gas, medical or any kind of facility, you come under tax bracket etc and not paying your taxes then you are a thief. period

If you are living by your self in Himalayas or woods and not using or getting the benefit of any of the following perks then it's not theft.  

The problems with what you say are these:

1. You almost never get an itemization of what you received for your tax money, what each item cost, and how much of it you get for your money. This being the case, how do you even know that you received anything for your money? After all, with Quantum Easing, nobody would have to be taxed to pay for everything government supplies. Why not simply buy what you want? If you don't pay, you don't get to use it... like toll roads, for example... so that you can do a proper accounting.

2. "If you are living by your self in Himalayas or woods and not using or getting the benefit of any of the following perks," then you are being taxed by all of the work you have to do to so live. All that buying what you get is, is people specializing in an area, and getting paid for their specialized product or service. Why not government? so we can see where the money is going, and buy somewhere else if government can't keep their costs low enough?

Taxation is theft, but at least slavery.