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April 12, 2013, 11:53:20 PM |
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Well shit. I have money in deposit there. And who are trading in Eur now? o-O
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DeathAndTaxes
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April 12, 2013, 11:55:39 PM |
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Cross posting for a noob who doesn't have access as some of you may have noticed from watching the charts at: http://s2.bitcoinity.org/markets/bitcoin24/EURhttp://bitcoincharts.com/markets/btc24EUR_trades.htmlthere is still trading activity occurring on bitcoin-24.com, despite the site ostensibly being closed for the past ~12hours. it is actually still entirely possible to access the exchange interface in full and make trades as normal (at least in EUR, haven't tried USD). not sure of API access as i've never used it. withdrawing funds may also be possible but i'm not certain of that. hopefully this information is of some use to btc24 users - not entirely sure how but i can't keep it quiet - hence signing up to post this can prove this if necessary. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=175205.0
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hackstutz
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April 13, 2013, 07:41:25 AM |
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i imagine the police to confiscate the hardware... this would mean the police stores the stuff in some basement forever because they dont know how to handle anything related to IT.
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April 13, 2013, 07:57:59 AM |
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i imagine the police to confiscate the hardware... this would mean the police stores the stuff in some basement forever because they dont know how to handle anything related to IT. Exactly. And if that happens people would probably never get their money.
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April 13, 2013, 09:17:38 AM |
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was it possible from bitcoin-24 send own bitcoins to another wallet? Do you think would be possible is somehow now?
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April 13, 2013, 09:31:49 AM |
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diego1000
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April 13, 2013, 09:53:58 AM |
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any news?
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sto per lanciare i lovecoin impossibili da comprare con i soldi e da minare con la corrente.
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April 13, 2013, 09:56:18 AM |
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Nothing like healthy scepticism and hard evidence
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April 13, 2013, 10:01:56 AM |
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No need to real worry until those balances start to shrink or disappear without anyone receiving their money back. Since fast withdraw is essential to a scammer, I don't think Simon is planning to scam us or all the money would be long gone. Of course, if people start calling the police too soon, that can trigger some undesirable consequences. Simon knows it's hard to run anywhere in modern European Union or even abroad. No need to remember him that. And he already updated his message on https://bitcoin-24.com/. At least the "closed your Bank account in Poland" was changed. But he should prepare things in order to allow people to withdraw their bitcoins. Or, at least, write a more assuring message about he returning all the money and give us some kind of deadline.
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realme
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April 13, 2013, 10:09:06 AM |
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wrong, now there are trades again!
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April 13, 2013, 10:27:58 AM |
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Maybe he is testing the new code.
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anon24
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April 13, 2013, 10:40:50 AM |
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Maybe he is testing the new code.
on an exchange that is effectively live though? while his customers still have active orders, no less. i think someone has just worked out how to access the exchange and is taking advantage of the glitch to inflate their balance. you can see that orders are regularly executed twice, giving double coins/EUR, which you can then trade the opposite way in multiple tiny orders and have many of those executed twice too. end result = free money essentially. i tried it briefly few hours ago and increased my EUR balance by 200 in about 5 mins... stopped straight away of course (and am ready/willing to hand the funds back) trading engine is an absolute joke atm - this is why i didn't want to share how to get in
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realme
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April 13, 2013, 11:22:10 AM |
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increased my EUR balance by 200 in about 5 mins. But from where comes the opposite for your trade? do you need to do "crosstrade", trade with yourself? You dont trade/match with other orders from other market participants, right? From where comes the money (200 eur) you earned? I like to understand the leak. Thanks
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klee
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April 13, 2013, 11:43:45 AM |
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increased my EUR balance by 200 in about 5 mins. But from where comes the opposite for your trade? do you need to do "crosstrade", trade with yourself? You dont trade/match with other orders from other market participants, right? From where comes the money (200 eur) you earned? I like to understand the leak. Thanks From all the users funds??? Damn...
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anon24
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April 13, 2013, 11:48:13 AM |
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increased my EUR balance by 200 in about 5 mins. But from where comes the opposite for your trade? do you need to do "crosstrade", trade with yourself? You dont trade/match with other orders from other market participants, right? From where comes the money (200 eur) you earned? nowhere - it doesn't really exist other than in bitcoin24's database. for whatever reason, the trading engine is spazzing out and crediting twice (or more) for trades in some instances. it doesn't matter how i'm buying from or selling to really, because the amount of free coins being made out of thin air by the bug makes it impossible to lose. i tested this last night when i was the only one on it (seemingly). i don't mind detailing this now because the site is properly down and no-one can get in to take advantage, but if i'd revealed how as soon as i knew this could have been happening for hours. from memory i did: make buy order 1 btc @ ~80 euro make buy order 1 btc @ ~80 euro account is credited for 3 btc, only 160 euro taken make sell order 0.1 btc @ ~77 euro x30 account is credited for 4.5btc worth of trades @ 77euro/btc so i ended up with approximately +200EUR more than when i started over the course of a few minutes and just some quick clicking. really i should have been down about 6EUR i guess. i was clicking very rapidly when making the buy/sell orders in order to reproduce the glitches i'd read about and it obviously worked very well. however even when NOT trying to induce a problem the glitch would still occur - i made a small trade just so i could see if the BTC withdrawal function was working, and ended up getting credited two or three times. just a simple, one click buy order, with no load on the engine as i was just about the only person there. something is clearly very wrong. i wasn't on the exchange this time yesterday but i can see why it was taken offline so abruptly if this was happening. it also explains why the hotwallet is being kept empty - if everyone draws out their coins this can't be corrected. if the coins stay in the system, the database of trades can be rolled back (as i understand it) and BTC/EUR/USD balances can be restored to something resembling 'normality' before the glitch.
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anon24
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April 13, 2013, 11:51:38 AM |
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increased my EUR balance by 200 in about 5 mins. But from where comes the opposite for your trade? do you need to do "crosstrade", trade with yourself? You dont trade/match with other orders from other market participants, right? From where comes the money (200 eur) you earned? I like to understand the leak. Thanks From all the users funds??? Damn... if anyone is to lose out it should be bitcoin24 as they will (morally at least(!)) have to settle their customers' accounts whilst also taking the hit of whatever bitcoins were wrongly credited by the trading engine and quickly extracted. the admin hasn't disappeared just yet (posted on reddit earlier) so i haven't lost all hope.
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diego1000
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April 13, 2013, 11:54:18 AM |
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the admin hasn't disappeared just yet (posted on reddit earlier) so i haven't lost all hope.
url ?
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sto per lanciare i lovecoin impossibili da comprare con i soldi e da minare con la corrente.
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anon24
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April 13, 2013, 11:55:35 AM |
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the admin hasn't disappeared just yet (posted on reddit earlier) so i haven't lost all hope.
url ? why he hasn't updated his site i don't know
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simplydt
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April 13, 2013, 12:27:07 PM |
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Thinking about it, the most annoying thing about this is that it prevented me from buying at yesterdays low. Today the price is almost double... bah, that would have been a nice profit margin! Boo. Anyway, hopefully it will be back up tomorrow
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