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Lets Swap AMP in to RHOC , its cool ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) Thank you for the support The communist druggie and the "porno star" are supporting Greg's attempt to steal Synereo LTD IP by raising funds off the naive and uninformed. Who else wants to help them out?! I hear you about the OTTO capital investment. That deal so to speak has not been closed. But this is just a swap so investors who invested in rchain are able to get out of the synereo ecosystem and into rchain fairly.
I dont really see how this effects synereo that much. Greg said today on the hangout that the amps that the coop receives will be held in escrow and not unloaded on the market. (Theres no intent to crash the amp market) Greg also hasn't sold any of his founer amps. I think its fairly easy to check if he has or the coop has sold/transfer amps via the block explorer.
I am sure you can join slack and ask him directly yourself though.
For the record, I am sorry that Decentralized Economics thinks I am painting synereo in a bad light. I just want to bring facts to the table here. I have no interest in painting synereo or rchain a particular way. I hope both projects succeed.
Stop lying to people about getting money from Otto Capital. Greg is never going to raise a dime from any venture capital group, private equity, or angel. You are willingly aiding the infringement of Synereo LTD IP using property of Synereo LTD (aka your computer). For once in your life, be smart. Stop trying to trick people into handing their money over to Greg and return your laptop to Synereo LTD. Once you quit working for a company, you do NOT get to keep their possessions. An analogy you might understand would be, when you quit your "Mexican landscaping" job, you do NOT get to keep the shovel! Everytime you open your mouth you represent yourself and your cause in a bad light. If you were smart, you would shut up. it is unfair to not tell people about the project. Try telling that to the judge.
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January 12, 2017, 05:19:38 AM |
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Lets Swap AMP in to RHOC , its cool ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) Thank you for the support The communist druggie and the "porno star" are supporting Greg's attempt to steal Synereo LTD IP by raising funds off the naive and uninformed. Who else wants to help them out?! I hear you about the OTTO capital investment. That deal so to speak has not been closed. But this is just a swap so investors who invested in rchain are able to get out of the synereo ecosystem and into rchain fairly.
I dont really see how this effects synereo that much. Greg said today on the hangout that the amps that the coop receives will be held in escrow and not unloaded on the market. (Theres no intent to crash the amp market) Greg also hasn't sold any of his founer amps. I think its fairly easy to check if he has or the coop has sold/transfer amps via the block explorer.
I am sure you can join slack and ask him directly yourself though.
For the record, I am sorry that Decentralized Economics thinks I am painting synereo in a bad light. I just want to bring facts to the table here. I have no interest in painting synereo or rchain a particular way. I hope both projects succeed.
Stop lying to people about getting money from Otto Capital. Greg is never going to raise a dime from any venture capital group, private equity, or angel. You are willingly aiding the infringement of Synereo LTD IP using property of Synereo LTD (aka your computer). For once in your life, be smart. Stop trying to trick people into handing their money over to Greg and return your laptop to Synereo LTD. Once you quit working for a company, you do NOT get to keep their possessions. An analogy you might understand would be, when you quit your "Mexican landscaping" job, you do NOT get to keep the shovel! Everytime you open your mouth you represent yourself and your cause in a bad light. If you were smart, you would shut up. it is unfair to not tell people about the project. Try telling that to the judge. What do you think is wrong with the Rchain project? If this is an attempt to formulate a legal defense strategy of "ignorance of the law", you need to step up your game. No judge is going to buy it. What part of "stop trying to convince people who can't afford to lose their money to hand it over to Greg in return for vague promises which he is incapable of fulfilling and stop infringing on Synereo LTD IP" do you NOT understand?
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Why make use of synereo to swap ? Why not other alts ? Rchain dev dont want to lose their bags ?
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January 12, 2017, 05:54:38 AM |
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Lets Swap AMP in to RHOC , its cool ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) Thank you for the support The communist druggie and the "porno star" are supporting Greg's attempt to steal Synereo LTD IP by raising funds off the naive and uninformed. Who else wants to help them out?! I hear you about the OTTO capital investment. That deal so to speak has not been closed. But this is just a swap so investors who invested in rchain are able to get out of the synereo ecosystem and into rchain fairly.
I dont really see how this effects synereo that much. Greg said today on the hangout that the amps that the coop receives will be held in escrow and not unloaded on the market. (Theres no intent to crash the amp market) Greg also hasn't sold any of his founer amps. I think its fairly easy to check if he has or the coop has sold/transfer amps via the block explorer.
I am sure you can join slack and ask him directly yourself though.
For the record, I am sorry that Decentralized Economics thinks I am painting synereo in a bad light. I just want to bring facts to the table here. I have no interest in painting synereo or rchain a particular way. I hope both projects succeed.
Stop lying to people about getting money from Otto Capital. Greg is never going to raise a dime from any venture capital group, private equity, or angel. You are willingly aiding the infringement of Synereo LTD IP using property of Synereo LTD (aka your computer). For once in your life, be smart. Stop trying to trick people into handing their money over to Greg and return your laptop to Synereo LTD. Once you quit working for a company, you do NOT get to keep their possessions. An analogy you might understand would be, when you quit your "Mexican landscaping" job, you do NOT get to keep the shovel! Everytime you open your mouth you represent yourself and your cause in a bad light. If you were smart, you would shut up. it is unfair to not tell people about the project. Try telling that to the judge. What do you think is wrong with the Rchain project? If this is an attempt to formulate a legal defense strategy of "ignorance of the law", you need to step up your game. No judge is going to buy it. What part of "stop trying to convince people who can't afford to lose their money to hand it over to Greg in return for vague promises which he is incapable of fulfilling and stop infringing on Synereo LTD IP" do you NOT understand? What IP are you referring to? Nice try, but you're going to have to do better than that.
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Lets Swap AMP in to RHOC , its cool ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) Thank you for the support The communist druggie and the "porno star" are supporting Greg's attempt to steal Synereo LTD IP by raising funds off the naive and uninformed. Who else wants to help them out?! I hear you about the OTTO capital investment. That deal so to speak has not been closed. But this is just a swap so investors who invested in rchain are able to get out of the synereo ecosystem and into rchain fairly.
I dont really see how this effects synereo that much. Greg said today on the hangout that the amps that the coop receives will be held in escrow and not unloaded on the market. (Theres no intent to crash the amp market) Greg also hasn't sold any of his founer amps. I think its fairly easy to check if he has or the coop has sold/transfer amps via the block explorer.
I am sure you can join slack and ask him directly yourself though.
For the record, I am sorry that Decentralized Economics thinks I am painting synereo in a bad light. I just want to bring facts to the table here. I have no interest in painting synereo or rchain a particular way. I hope both projects succeed.
Stop lying to people about getting money from Otto Capital. Greg is never going to raise a dime from any venture capital group, private equity, or angel. You are willingly aiding the infringement of Synereo LTD IP using property of Synereo LTD (aka your computer). For once in your life, be smart. Stop trying to trick people into handing their money over to Greg and return your laptop to Synereo LTD. Once you quit working for a company, you do NOT get to keep their possessions. An analogy you might understand would be, when you quit your "Mexican landscaping" job, you do NOT get to keep the shovel! Everytime you open your mouth you represent yourself and your cause in a bad light. If you were smart, you would shut up. it is unfair to not tell people about the project. Try telling that to the judge. What do you think is wrong with the Rchain project? If this is an attempt to formulate a legal defense strategy of "ignorance of the law", you need to step up your game. No judge is going to buy it. What part of "stop trying to convince people who can't afford to lose their money to hand it over to Greg in return for vague promises which he is incapable of fulfilling and stop infringing on Synereo LTD IP" do you NOT understand? What IP are you referring to? Nice try, but you're going to have to do better than that. Rchain is open source and it is combined with open source developments.
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January 12, 2017, 11:44:25 AM |
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So rchain will have 1 billion coins, out of which more than 90% will be held with the CO-OP? How would RCHAIN negate the possible lawsuits coming against it with almost no funding? [From Synereo] - As mentioned by its CEO When will there be a working product, After 10 years?...As mentioned by greg [ founder of rchain]
Videos, videos, talk and more talks....Promises and more promises, And you guys cant even have a firm redemption date before posting...pathetic in a sense
FYI- Redemption has been delayed as they still dont have a working code and have problems with OMNI node!
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January 12, 2017, 12:07:43 PM |
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So rchain will have 1 billion coins, out of which more than 90% will be held with the CO-OP? How would RCHAIN negate the possible lawsuits coming against it with almost no funding? [From Synereo] - As mentioned by its CEO When will there be a working product, After 10 years?...As mentioned by greg [ founder of rchain]
Videos, videos, talk and more talks....Promises and more promises, And you guys cant even have a firm redemption date before posting...pathetic in a sense
FYI- Redemption has been delayed as they still dont have a working code and have problems with OMNI node!
According to recent statements made by RChain, RChain will start out with one billion tokens, but after the redemption will burn tokens so that the ratio of tokens in circulation to tokens out of circulation is about the same as at Synereo. So, yes, a little more than 90% will be held by the co-op initially, but there will be fewer than one billion tokens total. The number won't be determined until after the redemption. RChain and the major investors interested in RChain are well aware of previous and recent allegations against RChain. Since they've done their due diligence and aren't concerned about funds being drained defending against frivolous lawsuits, I'm not too concerned about it. Greg has stated that he will answer any questions asked of him, and that there may be counter lawsuits as well. The roadmap hasn't been published yet, but we can expect a functioning product within a year or two. As with every other blockchain on the planet, it will be at least five years before it is in a state that could be considered "production-ready" for mission critical applications. It will be useful long before that, as Ethereum and other blockchains are now. As for your other complaints, I'm glad to see that they are cautious and are willing to delay when it's the sensible thing to do.
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January 12, 2017, 12:08:04 PM |
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Reserve me down to do the English translation. So rchain will have 1 billion coins, out of which more than 90% will be held with the CO-OP? How would RCHAIN negate the possible lawsuits coming against it with almost no funding? [From Synereo] - As mentioned by its CEO When will there be a working product, After 10 years?...As mentioned by greg [ founder of rchain]
Videos, videos, talk and more talks....Promises and more promises, And you guys cant even have a firm redemption date before posting...pathetic in a sense
FYI- Redemption has been delayed as they still dont have a working code and have problems with OMNI node!
According to recent statements made by RChain, RChain will start out with one billion tokens, but after the redemption will burn tokens so that the ratio of tokens in circulation to tokens out of circulation is about the same as at Synereo. So, yes, a little more than 90% will be held by the co-op initially, but there will be fewer than one billion tokens total. The number won't be determined until after the redemption. RChain and the major investors interested in RChain are well aware of previous and recent allegations against RChain. Since they've done their due diligence and aren't concerned about funds being drained defending against frivolous lawsuits, I'm not too concerned about it. Greg has stated that he will answer any questions asked of him, and that there may be counter lawsuits as well. The roadmap hasn't been published yet, but we can expect a functioning product within a year or two. As with every other blockchain on the planet, it will be at least five years before it is in a state that could be considered "production-ready" for mission critical applications. It will be useful long before that, as Ethereum and other blockchains are now. As for your other complaints, I'm glad to see that they are cautious and are willing to delay when it's the sensible thing to do. Says the noob trying to shill for it.
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January 12, 2017, 12:20:25 PM |
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Reserve me down to do the English translation. So rchain will have 1 billion coins, out of which more than 90% will be held with the CO-OP? How would RCHAIN negate the possible lawsuits coming against it with almost no funding? [From Synereo] - As mentioned by its CEO When will there be a working product, After 10 years?...As mentioned by greg [ founder of rchain]
Videos, videos, talk and more talks....Promises and more promises, And you guys cant even have a firm redemption date before posting...pathetic in a sense
FYI- Redemption has been delayed as they still dont have a working code and have problems with OMNI node!
According to recent statements made by RChain, RChain will start out with one billion tokens, but after the redemption will burn tokens so that the ratio of tokens in circulation to tokens out of circulation is about the same as at Synereo. So, yes, a little more than 90% will be held by the co-op initially, but there will be fewer than one billion tokens total. The number won't be determined until after the redemption. RChain and the major investors interested in RChain are well aware of previous and recent allegations against RChain. Since they've done their due diligence and aren't concerned about funds being drained defending against frivolous lawsuits, I'm not too concerned about it. Greg has stated that he will answer any questions asked of him, and that there may be counter lawsuits as well. The roadmap hasn't been published yet, but we can expect a functioning product within a year or two. As with every other blockchain on the planet, it will be at least five years before it is in a state that could be considered "production-ready" for mission critical applications. It will be useful long before that, as Ethereum and other blockchains are now. As for your other complaints, I'm glad to see that they are cautious and are willing to delay when it's the sensible thing to do. Says the noob trying to shill for it. He asked questions, I answered them. What does my newness have to do with the accuracy or usefulness of my statements?
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he should have kept with synerio and made rchain exclusively for the benefit of synerio above all others.
I believe he can create something great but what is the point to wait years and then who knows what he will do with it. He didnt seem clear on that those that pay for investment should reap the majority of the rewards. That is not something I would want to go along with as an investor.
May swap 10% of my tiny amount of amps just to have an outside chance.
Then again who trusts dor and the synerio team?
Thankfully I have only a tiny amount. I would not want to have to make these choices if I was an ICO2 investor and held a load.
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January 12, 2017, 02:04:13 PM |
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So rchain will have 1 billion coins, out of which more than 90% will be held with the CO-OP? How would RCHAIN negate the possible lawsuits coming against it with almost no funding? [From Synereo] - As mentioned by its CEO When will there be a working product, After 10 years?...As mentioned by greg [ founder of rchain]
Videos, videos, talk and more talks....Promises and more promises, And you guys cant even have a firm redemption date before posting...pathetic in a sense
FYI- Redemption has been delayed as they still dont have a working code and have problems with OMNI node!
What would be the claims? Under what jurisdiction? Did an Israeli company really employee a United States individual? OR what is done differently? There's video record proving Synereo has no intention on building RChain, so its hard to say it's competing. IMHO a large portion of that 90% could go into bounty programs to help dilute the pressure and influence you and other bladdy blah whales think they'll have over RChain. Your not fooling anyone, your going to jump on the bandwagon, you may not do it publicly. Since you don't create, you have to try and destroy in order to preserve your current comfort level. I get it, but ultimately your fear of missing out controls you like the strings of a puppet. IMHO the videos, talks, proposals, and community transparency all indicate a project living up to the "open source eco-system" values that are obviously been bastardized by others in the space. Your judging this as bad because your not the target audience, so you don't actually get it. If you were the target audience, your points would matter. But your not, so they don't. ("But I have a bunch of AMPs, and I can make numbers go up and down on exchanges and") AMP has no value, RHOC has no value. There is very much a ground swell of talented developers and skilled positions ready and willing to help out Greg. This conversation and your points are dust in the wind, the "talks and talks..." are serving to cement a "1000 True Fans" type movement that will be ultimately scale and sustain, IMHO. Its called ground work for a reason. I get your sole sucking motives, maybe take that to another community. Foreal, your style belongs on the other side of history.
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January 12, 2017, 05:14:10 PM |
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Videos, videos, talk and more talks....Promises and more promises, And you guys cant even have a firm redemption date before posting...pathetic in a sense
FYI- Redemption has been delayed as they still dont have a working code and have problems with OMNI node!
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January 12, 2017, 05:48:27 PM |
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"planteater" is obviously Greg. ONLY Greg could come up with a username like that.
"NoveltyMechanics" is probably Ed Eykholt or Ian Bloom.
You've got to love the brand new Bitcointalk accounts that they made to try to trick people into giving them money.
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January 12, 2017, 05:48:58 PM |
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he should have kept with synerio and made rchain exclusively for the benefit of synerio above all others.
I believe he can create something great but what is the point to wait years and then who knows what he will do with it. He didnt seem clear on that those that pay for investment should reap the majority of the rewards. That is not something I would want to go along with as an investor.
May swap 10% of my tiny amount of amps just to have an outside chance.
Then again who trusts dor and the synerio team?
Thankfully I have only a tiny amount. I would not want to have to make these choices if I was an ICO2 investor and held a load.
ya, im having real trouble 2 support Synereo in any way after seeing the DRAMA (there is literally no other word) between Dor and greg. I see a Dev who needs the resources to make it happen, but a CEO that's dosen't think shit costs money :/ i don't know if this team can ever work together :/ i will have to get a bit closer to this again, i admit their drama pushed me RIGHT away ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) Watching, but personally still on the fence about continued Synereo/AMP support from me :/
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January 12, 2017, 05:55:51 PM |
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I see a Dev who needs the resources to make it happen, but a CEO that's dosen't think shit costs money :/
Greg failed to deliver working code for months. He was given every chance to work with the team to produce a working product, but he refused to work with anyone. The fact is that you could give Greg $100M USD and he would never produce anything except excuses. The only dev that was fired from the development team was Greg. What does that tell you?
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January 12, 2017, 05:56:59 PM |
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Videos, videos, talk and more talks....Promises and more promises, And you guys cant even have a firm redemption date before posting...pathetic in a sense
FYI- Redemption has been delayed as they still dont have a working code and have problems with OMNI node!
https://s28.postimg.org/zcp61k1j1/Cant_Run_An_Omni_Node.jpg ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) thats good, although there are still reporters inquiring about the mechanics of this technical feat
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January 12, 2017, 06:00:46 PM |
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Videos, videos, talk and more talks....Promises and more promises, And you guys cant even have a firm redemption date before posting...pathetic in a sense
FYI- Redemption has been delayed as they still dont have a working code and have problems with OMNI node!
![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fs28.postimg.org%2Fzcp61k1j1%2FCant_Run_An_Omni_Node.jpg&t=665&c=v2WrRoi3QykOdQ) ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) thats good, although there are still reporters inquiring about the mechanics of this technical feat If you geniuses can't get an Omni node set up and working in a reasonable amount of time, why should anyone believe that you are capable of delivering anything? Nobody is going to give you imbeciles $10M USD. Get over it. What the hell is taking so long to re-index Omnicore? Are you doing it on a Raspberry PI v1?
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January 12, 2017, 06:04:12 PM |
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I see a Dev who needs the resources to make it happen, but a CEO that's dosen't think shit costs money :/
Greg failed to deliver working code for months. He was given every chance to work with the team to produce a working product, but he refused to work with anyone. The fact is that you could give Greg $100M USD and he would never produce anything except excuses. The only dev that was fired from the development team was Greg. What does that tell you? ahh, ya i admit i wasen't IMMERSED in AMP, so unaware of that part, thats funny, he was always so adamant about "People will vouch for my abilty to get shit done!" ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) haha so much for that ;p idk, their not getting a penny from me, a team like this it's easier to buy low for profit on the news of their fuckups ;p
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January 12, 2017, 06:12:15 PM |
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I see a Dev who needs the resources to make it happen, but a CEO that's dosen't think shit costs money :/
Greg failed to deliver working code for months. He was given every chance to work with the team to produce a working product, but he refused to work with anyone. The fact is that you could give Greg $100M USD and he would never produce anything except excuses. The only dev that was fired from the development team was Greg. What does that tell you? ahh, ya i admit i wasen't IMMERSED in AMP, so unaware of that part, thats funny, he was always so adamant about "People will vouch for my abilty to get shit done!" ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) haha so much for that ;p idk, their not getting a penny from me, a team like this it's easier to buy low for profit on the news of their fuckups ;p Greg helped form a new company that is in charge of RChain development now. He and lots of other people are hard at work. You can check out the project by joining the Slack. http://slack.rchain.coop/Greg is offering to swap AMPs for tokens that will convert into native RChain tokens, for anyone who prefers to support the RChain project.
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