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[Jaerin]

I wanted to let you know that I submitted a bug fix for the 80% value issue that I reported months back.  This is likely the cause of the low payment for coins mined.

https://github.com/tpruvot/yiimp/pull/192

Regardless if you think that this is a problem or not the code fix simply prevents the widely used AverageIncrement function from returning results that are 80% of the actual value when a zero is passed to it.

I am not attempting to rehash the argument again, simply pointing out a bug in the code.

Please consider implementing this on the pool.  It will likely return it to being the top paying pool especially considering Nicehash is likely not to return in the near future.

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[MrCranky]

Hi,

New to ZPool, I have been running Nemosminer all afternoon on a GTX 1080 ti and have so far only managed to earn 0.00009777 BTC it would appear that they have stayed the same, if not gone backwards a little over the past few hours. It was over 0.0001000 earlier. What would the reason for this be?

[Spiffy_1]

Wow.. Look at all the mouthly little yips with under 50 posts demanding answers.  I can clearly see why you were using nicehash.  You have no social interaction skills or common sense.  Offer suggestions and realize that someone could be in a different timezone on the other side of the world.  Sleep comes to us all, unforseen issues come to us all.  If you don't like things leave.  If you want to give things a chance, stay and shut up and observe.  I've been with this pool for years and as hashrate grew suddenly we had some hickups.  This hasn't changed but over time he has expanded to make things smoother.  Who sees 4700 BTC disappear suddenly?  As for comments mining in the dark?  What do you think nicehash was doing?  Your hashrate is calculated by the shares you send not your overall hashrate on your side.  Completely different system vs nicehash which is PPLS against PPLNS which is zpool.  If you don't know what those are I suggest either reading up on it or sit down and enjoy the ride.

[Spiffy_1]

I wanted to let you know that I submitted a bug fix for the 80% value issue that I reported months back.  This is likely the cause of the low payment for coins mined.

https://github.com/tpruvot/yiimp/pull/192

Regardless if you think that this is a problem or not the code fix simply prevents the widely used AverageIncrement function from returning results that are 80% of the actual value when a zero is passed to it.

I am not attempting to rehash the argument again, simply pointing out a bug in the code.

Please consider implementing this on the pool.  It will likely return it to being the top paying pool especially considering Nicehash is likely not to return in the near future.

Nice catch Jaerin.  Always nice to see someone attempting to improve things.

[CrownRoyal79]

Wow.. Look at all the mouthly little yips with under 50 posts demanding answers.  I can clearly see why you were using nicehash.  You have no social interaction skills or common sense.  Offer suggestions and realize that someone could be in a different timezone on the other side of the world.  Sleep comes to us all, unforseen issues come to us all.  If you don't like things leave.  If you want to give things a chance, stay and shut up and observe.  I've been with this pool for years and as hashrate grew suddenly we had some hickups.  This hasn't changed but over time he has expanded to make things smoother.  Who sees 4700 BTC disappear suddenly?  As for comments mining in the dark?  What do you think nicehash was doing?  Your hashrate is calculated by the shares you send not your overall hashrate on your side.  Completely different system vs nicehash which is PPLS against PPLNS which is zpool.  If you don't know what those are I suggest either reading up on it or sit down and enjoy the ride.

You assume an awful lot... I've never used NiceHash, not even once. I switched a couple of my rigs from equihash to lyra2v2. I've tried a couple of different pools in the past 2 days. I like that this pool converts to BTC automatically. However, I would love to know why THIS POOL reports my hashrate at roughly 40% of what my miner reports while a couple other pools report it almost dead-on with what my miner reports. If it's just a reporting problem on the pool side and I'm being paid fairly, then I couldn't care less what gets reported and will keep mining here. But if there is some type of problem and I'm only getting credited for 40% of my hashes then of course I will mine elsewhere.

And since you have more than 50 posts, I'm sure that makes you a bonafide expert on this topic... so please do us all a favor and provide the answer!

[dottat]

Wow.. Look at all the mouthly little yips with under 50 posts demanding answers.  I can clearly see why you were using nicehash.  You have no social interaction skills or common sense.  Offer suggestions and realize that someone could be in a different timezone on the other side of the world.  Sleep comes to us all, unforseen issues come to us all.  If you don't like things leave.  If you want to give things a chance, stay and shut up and observe.  I've been with this pool for years and as hashrate grew suddenly we had some hickups.  This hasn't changed but over time he has expanded to make things smoother.  Who sees 4700 BTC disappear suddenly?  As for comments mining in the dark?  What do you think nicehash was doing?  Your hashrate is calculated by the shares you send not your overall hashrate on your side.  Completely different system vs nicehash which is PPLS against PPLNS which is zpool.  If you don't know what those are I suggest either reading up on it or sit down and enjoy the ride.

You assume an awful lot... I've never used NiceHash, not even once. I switched a couple of my rigs from equihash to lyra2v2. I've tried a couple of different pools in the past 2 days. I like that this pool converts to BTC automatically. However, I would love to know why THIS POOL reports my hashrate at roughly 40% of what my miner reports while a couple other pools report it almost dead-on with what my miner reports. If it's just a reporting problem on the pool side and I'm being paid fairly, then I couldn't care less what gets reported and will keep mining here. But if there is some type of problem and I'm only getting credited for 40% of my hashes then of course I will mine elsewhere.

And since you have more than 50 posts, I'm sure that makes you a bonafide expert on this topic... so please do us all a favor and provide the answer!

Most of these pools really don't know what your miner's true hash rate is.  It can only guess the hash rate by looking at the number of submitted shares vs your difficulty.  The actual hash rate of your rig doesn't mean squat if its not making valid shares.

[CrownRoyal79]

Wow.. Look at all the mouthly little yips with under 50 posts demanding answers.  I can clearly see why you were using nicehash.  You have no social interaction skills or common sense.  Offer suggestions and realize that someone could be in a different timezone on the other side of the world.  Sleep comes to us all, unforseen issues come to us all.  If you don't like things leave.  If you want to give things a chance, stay and shut up and observe.  I've been with this pool for years and as hashrate grew suddenly we had some hickups.  This hasn't changed but over time he has expanded to make things smoother.  Who sees 4700 BTC disappear suddenly?  As for comments mining in the dark?  What do you think nicehash was doing?  Your hashrate is calculated by the shares you send not your overall hashrate on your side.  Completely different system vs nicehash which is PPLS against PPLNS which is zpool.  If you don't know what those are I suggest either reading up on it or sit down and enjoy the ride.

You assume an awful lot... I've never used NiceHash, not even once. I switched a couple of my rigs from equihash to lyra2v2. I've tried a couple of different pools in the past 2 days. I like that this pool converts to BTC automatically. However, I would love to know why THIS POOL reports my hashrate at roughly 40% of what my miner reports while a couple other pools report it almost dead-on with what my miner reports. If it's just a reporting problem on the pool side and I'm being paid fairly, then I couldn't care less what gets reported and will keep mining here. But if there is some type of problem and I'm only getting credited for 40% of my hashes then of course I will mine elsewhere.

And since you have more than 50 posts, I'm sure that makes you a bonafide expert on this topic... so please do us all a favor and provide the answer!

Most of these pools really don't know what your miner's true hash rate is.  It can only guess the hash rate by looking at the number of submitted shares vs your difficulty.  The actual hash rate of your rig doesn't mean squat if its not making valid shares.

100% valid shares according to the Zpool. Suprnova reports hashrate accurately - the reported rate bounces above and below what my miner reports. Zpool consistently shows the hashrate bouncing above and below 40%. All I really care about is whether I'm being compensated fairly.

[dottat]

Wow.. Look at all the mouthly little yips with under 50 posts demanding answers.  I can clearly see why you were using nicehash.  You have no social interaction skills or common sense.  Offer suggestions and realize that someone could be in a different timezone on the other side of the world.  Sleep comes to us all, unforseen issues come to us all.  If you don't like things leave.  If you want to give things a chance, stay and shut up and observe.  I've been with this pool for years and as hashrate grew suddenly we had some hickups.  This hasn't changed but over time he has expanded to make things smoother.  Who sees 4700 BTC disappear suddenly?  As for comments mining in the dark?  What do you think nicehash was doing?  Your hashrate is calculated by the shares you send not your overall hashrate on your side.  Completely different system vs nicehash which is PPLS against PPLNS which is zpool.  If you don't know what those are I suggest either reading up on it or sit down and enjoy the ride.

You assume an awful lot... I've never used NiceHash, not even once. I switched a couple of my rigs from equihash to lyra2v2. I've tried a couple of different pools in the past 2 days. I like that this pool converts to BTC automatically. However, I would love to know why THIS POOL reports my hashrate at roughly 40% of what my miner reports while a couple other pools report it almost dead-on with what my miner reports. If it's just a reporting problem on the pool side and I'm being paid fairly, then I couldn't care less what gets reported and will keep mining here. But if there is some type of problem and I'm only getting credited for 40% of my hashes then of course I will mine elsewhere.

And since you have more than 50 posts, I'm sure that makes you a bonafide expert on this topic... so please do us all a favor and provide the answer!

Most of these pools really don't know what your miner's true hash rate is.  It can only guess the hash rate by looking at the number of submitted shares vs your difficulty.  The actual hash rate of your rig doesn't mean squat if its not making valid shares.

100% valid shares according to the Zpool. Suprnova reports hashrate accurately - the reported rate bounces above and below what my miner reports. Zpool consistently shows the hashrate bouncing above and below 40%. All I really care about is whether I'm being compensated fairly.

From past earnings the posted 24 hr avg in mBtc X's the avg hash of two of my d3's (30,000) equalled earnings.  This new influx of miners here has changed a number of variables like it has elsewhere and some of the previous stable reporting indicators are off.  Earnings though still seem to be roughly the same perhaps a little lower due to the increased difficulty because of the higher pool hash rate. 

Hopefully the dust settles and folks adjust to the new normal soon.  I would imagine this wasn't anything anyone at this pool or any other pool could have dreamed happening so it's catching everyone off guard.  Imagine the idled hardware at nicehash right now.

[Max3k]

Most of these pools really don't know what your miner's true hash rate is.  It can only guess the hash rate by looking at the number of submitted shares vs your difficulty.  The actual hash rate of your rig doesn't mean squat if its not making valid shares.

That's not a fact, if you have such problems, you need to watch the total received rate "Hashrate" in %, and already from this percentage the number received of coins (Amount). If you get exactly what is stated on the website, you are losing half of their income, in his case it is 60%. I have sometimes a similar situation occurs, we have to restart the client (miner.exe) only after this, the stats on the pool begins to converge. I don't know why this happens, but it is almost always only one algorithm (lyra2v2).

[dottat]

Most of these pools really don't know what your miner's true hash rate is.  It can only guess the hash rate by looking at the number of submitted shares vs your difficulty.  The actual hash rate of your rig doesn't mean squat if its not making valid shares.

That's not a fact, if you have such problems, you need to watch the total received rate "Hashrate" in %, and already from this percentage the number received of coins (Amount). If you get exactly what is stated on the website, you are losing half of their income, in his case it is 60%. I have sometimes a similar situation occurs, we have to restart the client (miner.exe) only after this, the stats on the pool begins to converge. I don't know why this happens, but it is almost always only one algorithm (lyra2v2).

That may be truer on the lower hash rate hardware.  I'm only telling you what it looks like from larger asic based miners (x11, script for me).  Sometimes it reports high, sometimes low... and it's based off the shares the site is seeing.  Nicehash actually had a page dedicated to explaining this.  Here's where someone posted it to reddit... last couple paragraphs.

https://www.reddit.com/r/NiceHash/comments/6nkqb7/why_the_hashrate_on_the_website_is_different_from/

[guytechie]

Something wrong with the Neoscrypt stratum or the way the site is reporting hashrate.

I have 2 rigs - one is at 2.57 MH/s and the other is at 4.55 MH/s.  On the pool site, it says I'm at 886 kh/s (sometimes hitting 1.1 MH/s), and the other is 916 kh/s (sometimes hitting 1.4 MH/s)

Does the Neoscrypt stratum need to be restarted?

Join the club! Lyra2v2, X11, and Neoscrypt users all with the same problem -- hashrates being reported VERY low.

No need to "join".  I'm already a member.

[crackfoo]

have the new server deployed and currently preparing it and getting it setup/secured.

Hopfully later tonight I can move DB and stratum to it.

[guytechie]

I wanted to let you know that I submitted a bug fix for the 80% value issue that I reported months back.  This is likely the cause of the low payment for coins mined.

https://github.com/tpruvot/yiimp/pull/192

Regardless if you think that this is a problem or not the code fix simply prevents the widely used AverageIncrement function from returning results that are 80% of the actual value when a zero is passed to it.

I am not attempting to rehash the argument again, simply pointing out a bug in the code.

Please consider implementing this on the pool.  It will likely return it to being the top paying pool especially considering Nicehash is likely not to return in the near future.

Can we have this, @crackfoo?  Can we, can we, can we? Please, @crackfoo, please!  It’s Christmas!

[spider703]

the site is offline, and mining works, will it be reckoned?

[crackfoo]

the site is offline, and mining works, will it be reckoned?

yup, in the works now. building up the new server to handle the increased traffic. Just the front end is off right now as it was causing additional unnecessary stress on the server.

[iModAMD]

the site is offline, and mining works, will it be reckoned?

yup, in the works now. building up the new server to handle the increased traffic. Just the front end is off right now as it was causing additional unnecessary stress on the server.

Hey , I want to thank you for the excellent service you're offering . Mining was working (I use NemosMiner-v2.2-master) . I rebooted my rig 1 hour ago and now it seems I can't connect anymore (waited like 1h still not starting) . Is it normal considering your website is down ?

Thanks in advance !

[minerx117]

the site is offline, and mining works, will it be reckoned?

yup, in the works now. building up the new server to handle the increased traffic. Just the front end is off right now as it was causing additional unnecessary stress on the server.

Hey , I want to thank you for the excellent service you're offering . Mining was working (I use NemosMiner-v2.2-master) . I rebooted my rig 1 hour ago and now it seems I can't connect anymore (waited like 1h still not starting) . Is it normal considering your website is down ?

Thanks in advance !

you can use 1.7.6-zpool until api server is back up:

download 1.7.6
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1777336.0

edit.bat (NemosMiner-v1.7.6-ZPOOL1070.bat)

change btc address to yours and select how many gpus you have eg. 1 gpu

SET ADDY=1QGADhdMRpp9Pk5u5zG1TrHKRrdK5R81TE
SET GPUequihash=0
SET GPUccminer=0

eg. 6 gpu's

SET ADDY=1QGADhdMRpp9Pk5u5zG1TrHKRrdK5R81TE
SET GPUequihash=0 1 2 3 4 5
SET GPUccminer=0,1,2,3,4,5

save and run .bat

Regards Nemo

[JaredKaragen]

finally felt my first outage.  I am sure this is normal because a new machine is stepping in and there were DB migrations mentioned... maybe the coinbox has been reset.  She pings clearly though.

[guytechie]

the site is offline, and mining works, will it be reckoned?

yup, in the works now. building up the new server to handle the increased traffic. Just the front end is off right now as it was causing additional unnecessary stress on the server.

Hey , I want to thank you for the excellent service you're offering . Mining was working (I use NemosMiner-v2.2-master) . I rebooted my rig 1 hour ago and now it seems I can't connect anymore (waited like 1h still not starting) . Is it normal considering your website is down ?

Thanks in advance !

you can use 1.7.6-zpool until api server is back up:

download 1.7.6
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1777336.0

edit.bat (NemosMiner-v1.7.6-ZPOOL1070.bat)

change btc address to yours and select how many gpus you have eg. 1 gpu

SET ADDY=1QGADhdMRpp9Pk5u5zG1TrHKRrdK5R81TE
SET GPUequihash=0
SET GPUccminer=0

eg. 6 gpu's

SET ADDY=1QGADhdMRpp9Pk5u5zG1TrHKRrdK5R81TE
SET GPUequihash=0 1 2 3 4 5
SET GPUccminer=0,1,2,3,4,5

save and run .bat

Regards Nemo

Does this means people who are still mining with 2.2 isn't auto-switching?

I noticed my miners have been mining the same algo for half a day.

[crackfoo]

finally felt my first outage.  I am sure this is normal because a new machine is stepping in and there were DB migrations mentioned... maybe the coinbox has been reset.  She pings clearly though.

DB & stratums migrated to new server. Will soon put frontend back on after some monitoring.