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Author Topic: [ANN][$MUSIC] Musicoin Blockchain Upgrades to V3.0(“Quantitative Tightening 🎸  (Read 287532 times)
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July 26, 2017, 09:17:55 AM
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Please explain your definition of inflation rate. coin supply growth doesnt equal inflation rate.

If playing music on MUSICOIN gets more expensive, then we have inflation imho.

Call it whatever you want. In the real world, prices of goods and services constantly increase to compensate for the ever expanding supply of fiat which is created out of thin air by the Central Bank. This is called inflation.

Musicoin's price has remained more or less constant despite increasing supply only because of high demand. If the price of MUSIC coin started falling due to lack of demand and ever increasing supply, artists would be forced to increase prices to compensate.

Like it or not, it's a serious problem. In the month of May and June, all the altcoins have had a massive jump in price but not Musicoin. Why? 164m coins were added to the supply in the last 3 months alone.
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July 26, 2017, 09:54:24 AM
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Call it whatever you want. In the real world, prices of goods and services constantly increase to compensate for the ever expanding supply of fiat which is created out of thin air by the Central Bank. This is called inflation.
As the price per play seems to stay the same, 1 $MUSIC, I would not call it inflation. Also, it is not like $MUSICOIN is 'created out of thin air' but like every other minable coin by hardware resources. correct me if I am wrong.

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Musicoin's price has remained more or less constant despite increasing supply only because of high demand. If the price of MUSIC coin started falling due to lack of demand and ever increasing supply, artists would be forced to increase prices to compensate.
If the price for $MUSIC falls miners would stop mining and therefore supply will slow down. As said, it is not premined or created out of air. Now if artists raise their prices and somebody would create more coins out of air then you would have real inflation. Instead, while the price per play increases, the demand of $MUSIC would rise, while supply decreased because of unprofitability in mining. that leads to increasing price of $MUSIC imho.

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Like it or not, it's a serious problem. In the month of May and June, all the altcoins have had a massive jump in price but not Musicoin. Why? 164m coins were added to the supply in the last 3 months alone.
AFAIK $MUSIC is listed on bittrex since March 2017 (edit: andcryptopia). So I would also consider the very early phase, missing reputation and not being able to trade on other markets. they just entered too late to catch up on the last boom.

'Were added to the supply' really sounds like someone magically made them appear. they were mined from the very first coin by miners, not one $MUSIC premined. the difficulty is low, so supply is fast right now.

 in theory there is no supply cap, but instead there will be a difficulty bomb just like in ETH, wich is planned around a supply of 600mil coins. to me, this is another form of capping supply.

supply speed should also throttle down because difficulty increases. what is left is the demand of coins, wich should only be showing up in form of early investors and speculants, because in this early phase the real demand of $MUSIC for listeners and artists should be in a growing state right now, not a decreasing state...
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July 26, 2017, 12:38:04 PM
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Call it whatever you want. In the real world, prices of goods and services constantly increase to compensate for the ever expanding supply of fiat which is created out of thin air by the Central Bank. This is called inflation.
As the price per play seems to stay the same, 1 $MUSIC, I would not call it inflation. Also, it is not like $MUSICOIN is 'created out of thin air' but like every other minable coin by hardware resources. correct me if I am wrong.

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Musicoin's price has remained more or less constant despite increasing supply only because of high demand. If the price of MUSIC coin started falling due to lack of demand and ever increasing supply, artists would be forced to increase prices to compensate.
If the price for $MUSIC falls miners would stop mining and therefore supply will slow down. As said, it is not premined or created out of air. Now if artists raise their prices and somebody would create more coins out of air then you would have real inflation. Instead, while the price per play increases, the demand of $MUSIC would rise, while supply decreased because of unprofitability in mining. that leads to increasing price of $MUSIC imho.

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Like it or not, it's a serious problem. In the month of May and June, all the altcoins have had a massive jump in price but not Musicoin. Why? 164m coins were added to the supply in the last 3 months alone.
AFAIK $MUSIC is listed on bittrex since March 2017 (edit: andcryptopia). So I would also consider the very early phase, missing reputation and not being able to trade on other markets. they just entered too late to catch up on the last boom.

'Were added to the supply' really sounds like someone magically made them appear. they were mined from the very first coin by miners, not one $MUSIC premined. the difficulty is low, so supply is fast right now.

 in theory there is no supply cap, but instead there will be a difficulty bomb just like in ETH, wich is planned around a supply of 600mil coins. to me, this is another form of capping supply.

supply speed should also throttle down because difficulty increases. what is left is the demand of coins, wich should only be showing up in form of early investors and speculants, because in this early phase the real demand of $MUSIC for listeners and artists should be in a growing state right now, not a decreasing state...

We know Musicoin is a fork of Ethereum which is why there is a difficulty bomb built in just like ETH. But just to put into perspective, ETH was created in 2015 and today the supply in 93m. Musicoin started in March 2017 and today the supply is 254m. Look at the contrast.

This shows that the block reward for mining is way too high right now. The difficulty has to grow exponentially/faster if we want to slow down the supply. Btw I never accused Musicoin of creating coins out of thin air. No POW or POS crypto does that.
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July 26, 2017, 12:52:31 PM
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The difficulty has to grow exponentially/faster if we want to slow down the supply.

do you see any sign why difficulty will not grow significantly faster than ETH? I mean in 2015 there also was no mining boom with sold out GPU markets. people have geared up and are ready to switch their mining power from eth by the next year.

do the numbers, you will see 600mio musicoins will be reached around the next year also.
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July 26, 2017, 04:18:25 PM
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Lets suppose a million in a day, then 600 millions will be achieved next summer
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July 26, 2017, 04:36:52 PM
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Lets suppose a million in a day, then 600 millions will be achieved next summer

It's approx 1.5m a day. I predict we will get there by March 2018.
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July 26, 2017, 06:00:52 PM
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Lets suppose a million in a day, then 600 millions will be achieved next summer

It's approx 1.5m a day. I predict we will get there by March 2018.

You do realize that for Music to beat that rate of "inflation" all it would need is about a $6 million increase in market cap. Which is literally nothing. Even if we use your expected date of March 2018, gaining 6 mil in 8/9 months isnt very difficult.

$Music deserves a 20 to 40 million dollar increase. Which would out pace inflation several fold
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July 26, 2017, 06:37:18 PM
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$Music deserves a 20 to 40 million dollar increase.

Can you explain your thoughts please
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July 26, 2017, 06:55:29 PM
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Once the Musiconomi platform launches and takes off, the popularity and adoption of $MUSIC will sky rocket.

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July 26, 2017, 07:34:21 PM
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Once the Musiconomi platform launches and takes off, the popularity and adoption of $MUSIC will sky rocket.
As its published on top of Musicoin blockchain, to transfer Musiconomi tokens user would need access to Musicoin to pay for the Gas price right? That's what I see for other tokens published on Ethereum blockchain.
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July 27, 2017, 04:19:33 PM
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$Music deserves a 20 to 40 million dollar increase.

Can you explain your thoughts please

I can give a more reasoned response later today if you'd like. However, 20 to 40 mil is the market value of pretty much every reasonably substantiated project. It's conservative for Music if you ask me given quite a few objectivelt value-less coins (ReddCoin, MinaCoin, SoarCoin, etc...) have 20 to 40 million dollar market caps.
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July 27, 2017, 06:11:04 PM
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yeah,  looking forward to your response
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July 28, 2017, 05:21:36 AM
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Could somebody post some peers here, I cannot sync my wallet.

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July 28, 2017, 09:04:25 AM
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Hi Everyone.   (I know this is not tech support, but)

I tried to mine $MUSIC on the nomnom.technology pool...   on the nomnom website, it says to configure the miner like this:

Code:
EthDcrMiner64.exe -epool musicoin.nomnom.technology:9999 -ewal <Your_Ethereum_Address>.<RigName> -epsw x -ethi 8 -allcoins 1 -esm 0 -allpools 1

... and so I did.    I put my ethereum address where it says to, thinking that the musiccoin would show as an ERC20 token in my ETH wallet.

 
I pointed 700MH/s at the pool for 24 hours, before I realised my (potential) mistake.


I've done the wrong thing, haven't I ?!
(and no way I can't get these coins back somehow?).    I've signed up for an actual musiccoin wallet (using the web wallet) now just to be sure.
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July 28, 2017, 10:58:58 AM
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Price 600, we fall below?
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July 28, 2017, 02:25:21 PM
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Hi Everyone.   (I know this is not tech support, but)

I tried to mine $MUSIC on the nomnom.technology pool...   on the nomnom website, it says to configure the miner like this:

Code:
EthDcrMiner64.exe -epool musicoin.nomnom.technology:9999 -ewal <Your_Ethereum_Address>.<RigName> -epsw x -ethi 8 -allcoins 1 -esm 0 -allpools 1

... and so I did.    I put my ethereum address where it says to, thinking that the musiccoin would show as an ERC20 token in my ETH wallet.

 
I pointed 700MH/s at the pool for 24 hours, before I realised my (potential) mistake.


I've done the wrong thing, haven't I ?!
(and no way I can't get these coins back somehow?).    I've signed up for an actual musiccoin wallet (using the web wallet) now just to be sure.

Yep your coins are now resting in the Crypto grave yard. You could try and reach out the pool to see if they can help.

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July 28, 2017, 02:37:42 PM
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Price 600, we fall below?


Btc rose quickly so most coins are down
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July 29, 2017, 12:17:14 PM
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$Music deserves a 20 to 40 million dollar increase.

Can you explain your thoughts please

I can give a more reasoned response later today if you'd like. However, 20 to 40 mil is the market value of pretty much every reasonably substantiated project. It's conservative for Music if you ask me given quite a few objectivelt value-less coins (ReddCoin, MinaCoin, SoarCoin, etc...) have 20 to 40 million dollar market caps.

What is the reason? Could you share it?
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July 30, 2017, 01:16:59 AM
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Altcoin buying season started!

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July 30, 2017, 01:45:41 AM
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Nice, another music related ico. It's really good to see projects involving music nowadays knowing artist specially the underated ones really need support. One question only, how is different with voise and opus.

 
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