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April 19, 2013, 07:29:58 PM |
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Hello! I´m really interested in get some 100 ASICS from you but I don´t know how to buy the BTCs (I´m too new in the BTC world). I´m reading the forums looking for get the Bitcoins and only read "dont trust anybody"!! Any advice? Point me somewhere please Thanks a lot in advance
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turtle83
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April 19, 2013, 07:35:03 PM |
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Any advice? Point me somewhere please
https://localbitcoins.com/noobie disclaimer : I have never purchased bitcoins from anybody... yet...
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April 19, 2013, 08:07:13 PM Last edit: April 20, 2013, 03:39:54 AM by u237114006 |
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Has anyone noticed that in just a few days we've put together the majority of orders for 8.6th worth of chips? Anyone have any thoughts about how adding that to the network alone will multiply the difficulty? Let alone if BFL finally ships? Will the 8.6gh rig I ordered even be able to pay itself off in a year?
Please refund this payment. Thank you.
<u237114006> <30> <2.58> <12EZjHjvcm6rwcQcwTMA42pTYx2qoU2xwZ>
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Knecke
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April 19, 2013, 11:07:04 PM Last edit: April 20, 2013, 10:02:34 AM by Knecke |
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i would like to make a reservation for 1000 chips, i will send the bitcoins tomorrow in something like 12 hours from now.
Knecke; 1000; 86; 14HEfnVs4Nir7dn6E7tU8tXX6i8CbCJ5d9
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April 19, 2013, 11:35:52 PM Last edit: April 20, 2013, 04:26:50 AM by BkkCoins |
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Has anyone noticed that in just a few days we've put together the majority of orders for 8.6th worth of chips? Anyone have any thoughts about how adding that to the network alone will multiply the difficulty? Let alone if BFL finally ships? Will the 8.6gh rig I ordered even be able to pay itself off in a year?
Current hash rate: 57 TH/s New expected in July from chip order: 8.6 TH/s (57+8.6)/57 = 1.15 or 15% increase. About the same as this last difficulty increase. I expect the difficulty to be double by June, which would mean, (114+8.6)/114 = 1.075 or 7.5% increase projected. Par for the course over the next 7 to 8 months. Why this long? Because that is how long doubling each month will take until the electricity cost is most of revenue. That seems like a feasible limit before people shut down due to low operating margin. (Assuming constant btc price and we all know how likely that is!) 2^7 = 128 57 * 128 = 7296 TH/s projected. Now plug that into your mining calculator. We can eventually remove 30 TH/s for GPU drop outs but that will be unnoticed by that time.
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April 19, 2013, 11:37:11 PM Last edit: April 19, 2013, 11:47:15 PM by tarmi |
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tarmi; 120; 10.33; 1Gzd6mbUUVgDYXwnodmYshJv8MLThQqJvo
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April 20, 2013, 12:43:42 AM |
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Wassupia; 40; 3.44; 1PvYMQjpJeUvoDY5SjtHHCfJ5iHwbFhenX
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My BTC-address: 1JtgnB6UC5j9gMYzLftVaCmwdPL4PrWeYB
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Jimmy2011
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April 20, 2013, 01:11:19 AM |
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Jimmy2011; 60; 5.16; 1Ekeuh654G5ZN9obLeTuPZT3nnrcJZvXYF
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John Self
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April 20, 2013, 04:13:23 AM Last edit: April 20, 2013, 04:58:28 AM by John Self |
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/solved
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BkkCoins
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April 20, 2013, 04:29:01 AM |
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JohnSelf; 80; 6.88; 1Nqov5s6cemPrgkwoS9bJmHBcdiyurCTBb
Hmm, I've potentially been scammed for a lot of bitcoins and am unsure if I can pay the fiat fees. I would like a refund to my senders address if that's at all possible. If you can't then I'll likely buy some of yours when they arrive. I'm sure these will be easy to sell for some time after chip supply dwindles. Can't right now as I have to mine more coins first.
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April 20, 2013, 04:58:05 AM |
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JohnSelf; 80; 6.88; 1Nqov5s6cemPrgkwoS9bJmHBcdiyurCTBb
Hmm, I've potentially been scammed for a lot of bitcoins and am unsure if I can pay the fiat fees. I would like a refund to my senders address if that's at all possible. If you can't then I'll likely buy some of yours when they arrive. I'm sure these will be easy to sell for some time after chip supply dwindles. Can't right now as I have to mine more coins first. Ok problem solved then, no need for a refund.
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zefir (OP)
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April 20, 2013, 06:18:42 AM |
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Has anyone noticed that in just a few days we've put together the majority of orders for 8.6th worth of chips? Anyone have any thoughts about how adding that to the network alone will multiply the difficulty? Let alone if BFL finally ships? Will the 8.6gh rig I ordered even be able to pay itself off in a year?
Please refund this payment. Thank you.
<u237114006> <30> <2.58> <12EZjHjvcm6rwcQcwTMA42pTYx2qoU2xwZ>
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Well, Ordering A lead time of 10+ weeks in the current sentiment takes ages. We can right now observe the dramatic exchange rate fluctuations, and we might also see some of the competing ASIC manufacturers succeed and flood the market with cheaper solutions. Before you order, please do your risk analysis.
I understand there are quite some newbies ordering (with sub-five total posts), and I am wondering if everybody really understands what he is doing. If you do not know what a private key to an address is or whether you control an address, mining ASICs might not be what you are looking for. I really don't want to be rude, but to openly warn that to prevent tears afterwards you need to know exactly what you are doing here. Note that your orders are binding, i.e. if you later decide you don't need the chips, I can't refund you.
Nevertheless, since your payment was for the pending batch 3, I refunded you. This will be added as a policy to the OP.
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April 20, 2013, 06:40:03 AM |
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Batch 3 confirmed orders: ID Chips BTC Address Note 01 50 4.3 14ueYQdkjAoFhrfQumZEwzQ3Zg6fALraM8 02 30 2.58 12EZjHjvcm6rwcQcwTMA42pTYx2qoU2xwZ 03 90 7.74 1CzpnPWmCiwPdXsPZq8ZkpA4R1276Wx4BG 04 50 4.3 1LFuHESA9K2AY9Ncpy3wGMpaB6zpTF8U78 05 20 1.72 1EnAtVzS9PuGbiQ6gAMWGCZMP2yBDw33r6 06 50 4.3 14kbcnzSgr6LAQJArzj3GWaYLgoypojEVw 07 150 12.9 1KGPWpFi4UyruQ5ZNohgsJ5oUeZxaTLFUy 08 200 17.2 1Lenny8KpVhqKvxwQFdYh7UZ6LFF4atY6z 09 270 23.22 1JZXXL1bL5oU7qTZJ9y1o1yXEm1HuSDxfx 10 50 4.3 1CtUHkqwYYqW3r5e482KwY9FBLSmJSNN8X 11 20 1.72 1HWcHT9ejkAeHnuwpzGj1uMenZfnUkXB9r 12 100 8.6 16xaGH9D2AwG7yooFeo8qDXvgtPDRRfkDh 13 10 0.86 1HtmFZ1uCCWRp9LWj8Yrk1KTmp2iokrCX1 14 60 5.16 13p3UtJyfHYDA6L4MAHmnHYGQ3qKs2Dc5T 15 170 14.62 1KGPWpFi4UyruQ5ZNohgsJ5oUeZxaTLFUy 16 20 1.72 1F7ErE7As7CWq78ka8rdgGMuumayBY3htE 17 100 8.6 1FvyUu5az9wYcarmaBKdokgg8aq8Smx2KS 18 10 0.86 18NNZA7eV9zdE6B6fT8D3qVtaimMwkDiGh 19 80 6.88 1Nqov5s6cemPrgkwoS9bJmHBcdiyurCTBb 20 40 3.44 1HL7M7nvo8BaQagCJp6hb5LZyThxSn497u 21 100 8.6 1FVmS3LwgYCJauToH7q3hDyTD6EeFMNDMD 22 30 2.58 19svkxfDSoNXM5tVjAGojavZQ4H5N9z4Q 23 60 5.16 1JUyHy7B3DTBYeDxK7iwaWpGHH6mEKFy7b 24 200 17.2 1JRp6vWi4dMUbaiSGxnnZ1Lo31mEnXK9Yo 25 20 1.72 1FcXcUL45YQu4aWmtZLF8uPvJPNYhV6Ee4 26 30 2.58 1CzpnPWmCiwPdXsPZq8ZkpA4R1276Wx4BG 27 40 3.44 1JZXXL1bL5oU7qTZJ9y1o1yXEm1HuSDxfx 28 70 6.02 1KZqvEDfxN7ciANDTeJqrkRdVyY983KwiD 29 120 10.33 please claim: 63740027773c459bbf8a360f6d36dcfa44d0c7f89a7390243d8fabfe879a9134 30 1290 110.94 12knpx2FZaG22k1KCwhMviNZfTwYDjPCeg 31 40 3.44 1PvYMQjpJeUvoDY5SjtHHCfJ5iHwbFhenX 32 60 5.16 1Ekeuh654G5ZN9obLeTuPZT3nnrcJZvXYF 33 600 51.6 1Ex87tbegxtyd1GGLtP1cHBidqxMQZjxhA ------------------------------------------------------------ Sum: 4200 Reserved: 2500 ============================================================ Remaining: 3300
One order for 120 chips mismatches in the sending address, please claim via PM.
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April 20, 2013, 09:33:21 AM |
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@zefir I have done two orders which you can accumulate into one (from the same address: 1KGPWpFi4UyruQ5ZNohgsJ5oUeZxaTLFUy). Still needs 3.3k more before ordering Batch 3, right?
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After some claims were processed, here are the updated order lists: Batch 1ID Chips BTC Address Note 01 500 43.00 15AkZM1u2jXhetHEKLnQ5ScM6bvjGePYHd 02 30 2.58 1B9WDgtyDmqrqyMFp63mqTiiGsat5CQLyM 03 2000 172.00 13BQocSpK6Ny8xubRGSXvdw5r4aTVBkrNp 04 100 8.60 15BEMHdT27kP2K6Yca2rEGwChRuzuHub8s 05 10 0.86 1G88KbjZi39ZA3BMXDwfmzidVDf2y2BKSp 06 10 0.86 1Pv44QYXwC3FMiNZgXcpZRKyuXXueyVRrd 07 390 33.54 1DDBpNCBHARLzk8wDpB3oHozm5aovxeCk6 08 10 0.86 1Kjvxd9CbnYbigcC13gS5VAd2asNcdVSyH 09 12 1.032 1MarbLezGShArudGnm7o1Z7K9iQQ9CdKU4 + #19 10 10 0.86 12B6RWnmeF8Rji2JTLDizMN9NTH4sZUYwD 11 25 2.15 1Q8ECj9GzWhhp9Vi2WqYnNP7msMQwvxrT9 + #24 12 50 4.30 1C4XvmnGkWkWzbHUvTK3x2cpkeZjfY51bg 13 10 0.86 14o3Xk5cbDMnYeBRW6pVgMuMJfC2gEhFpr 14 600 51.60 1B8HcvE1Ag2eUR5fJZU29r7wgV9A7Rn91U 15 40 3.44 13p3UtJyfHYDA6L4MAHmnHYGQ3qKs2Dc5T 16 20 1.72 1EFrzG2hfUdhAzAHiFgZ3DEg6wHa7JFEg9 17 30 2.58 1QHyDiUvu1GpmNQfYAJpw67XSuEZfDNgeC 18 10 0.86 1E26zhEHQq1AgkjnxchuRs1stwVH9X8Gni 19 8 0.688 1MarbLezGShArudGnm7o1Z7K9iQQ9CdKU4 20 50 4.30 13FdjGU6P6q6ypqWVQ2fJpF93ikTKTH2yS 21 70 6.02 16LtRGhh6wV65rntyvYPvnUNT3Lgv7xhDH 22 50 4.30 1JVfngaFgaqa3BqBeP7ftFdPwr2sD514y3 23 100 8.60 16cdEgS1LfoAXC1uJhVaoSsYaDeoT2oDyo 24 5 0.43 1Q8ECj9GzWhhp9Vi2WqYnNP7msMQwvxrT9 25 100 8.60 1JLzgdt3JhnSxQEgWv8Zd828M2eawGRuZA 26 10 0.86 1LfDCbF7A1eegFymzCwYiWXuYsgPtgX8SL 27 10 0.86 1ND1i4rcY7RJkJv9JvpizY51RjUYnhpJVQ 28 50 4.30 1P7NGKHZBtpcUbqfRa4WX4fQnVNM7rRoyX 29 10 0.86 14r1y5Roeoia26nqq4JiQrywXNsKfZ3s9D 30 10 0.86 please claim: 9d26a84631735b01bf174bf0a7491c2ea142fe46315adb07d218f1c1cad174fa 31 110 9.46 1GhNkFnaXgcEBuJwgJhXHLjXZJrqLNFKbV 32 30 2.58 1KqaXegcLn72rMYAerZLq3PiHz7WScjXvM 33 500 43.00 1Kfsuv5xnVZHjkw7jdFyhAMWdRzoRQH8ks 34 40 3.44 1ENc8QsvnMc3jDoYqh8jkycqS37MQM47Ep 35 100 8.60 12HMTWSXTX9aQCBU6kRAZU5MwgNmGr8HjS 36 20 1.72 1Pv44QYXwC3FMiNZgXcpZRKyuXXueyVRrd 37 50 4.30 1JPtkDdgbbNxJgWjYtwMfWsLhAHdWR6TeQ 38 200 17.2 15BEMHdT27kP2K6Yca2rEGwChRuzuHub8s 39 10 0.859 please claim: 5e1f6a1be41a36c43057e7afb2f4dab5a72b144bed15f01ddd93e13c54239fa5 40 200 17.2 1pDimB6dXL5Cbqs1XDY8onkFj9deHmn7h ------------------------------------------------------------ Sum: 5590
The two not yet claimed orders of 10 chips are from folks waiting to get released from newbie-jail. Batch 2ID Chips BTC Address Note 01 380 32.68 1Bgu2w4vBTXDDkpWkjAeomVnRRYASnCaJV 02 10 0.86 14aDJ3ciTmMpkW3etG6bNMN1oQQLhJmPMt 03 700 60.2 19mhMrsLVg6dnaskWWoyY92GuSFBk6mvqQ 04 120 10.32 1xbbjJcbeD4Qi88QmJmMgTFSdm7b5WCG4 05 400 34.40 1JbxcwwAy3ozAriSQ1Vexhz7AH6a6kNrpX 06 300 25.8 12ayokFPh7YdNhXDXAbMiHXM4nyvjqyQxd 07 120 10.32 1F7aPwhDyAJ8qFeLhVywg6pL1Wr7BpnCJb 08 300 25.8 1JRp6vWi4dMUbaiSGxnnZ1Lo31mEnXK9Yo 09 10 0.86 13r3a2wPR2ZiQbmN9XiQjcKWutnike6H6f 10 500 43.00 17zBXRqsibwYriEALvmVgaKizhvXrGLPJA 11 10 0.86 14ueYQdkjAoFhrfQumZEwzQ3Zg6fALraM8 12 80 6.88 16Mszwah7Czzgs1ULEuj5ZUfWvkYbMgZG6 13 10 0.86 1PVPGVQGfT8xiUYTNFkBxH7yRBQdUtNrvX 14 100 8.6 1EcMQxq7XBGsim5BpGune56wZpthcEFQN9; 15 700 60.2 1MSoqSFoyaPfpm8UiH1KRzWYx3ECcdWCPu 16 50 4.3 1PvHpCqmXbwzY2gPJUE1CQU4rxqXB5adcS 17 10 0.86 17EGdqGPUhmuofSXyGiu1PRSfLY4rXPTP5 18 23 1.978 1KERRChugfoma3VmJt68ezWdF3pMaZNmy6 invalid, will reduce to 20 19 10 0.86 198S1UfpVvLXJoLWYBJNsZnVQoyHFv5jku 20 650 55.9 12knpx2FZaG22k1KCwhMviNZfTwYDjPCeg 21 500 43.0 162HWpt9njiDsk5nwGixw7fDPuNy55Kh9X 22 20 1.72 1KaPfXZPnmVnsSGsfLFY9aoNb8bUf3zr89 23 30 2.58 19n18f4D1cSRHJH5cMVxBV5LobmJk64hqX 24 320 27.52 15Y5NPeCU2zSmrwscBnSi8uybhVEqpE7bi 25 200 17.2 1QBekJ4bZAe54EvUo3hHLgARcUTXY4dqcP 26 100 8.6 16xaGH9D2AwG7yooFeo8qDXvgtPDRRfkDh 27 360 30.96 16q2XVdzjaKbiBVwzMaaHqsG1iGN3FHaFV 28 200 17.2 1KhLXFABZrV4ztf7KKYpWKZqauy5tmWjdz 29 20 1.72 16rhiVKfQvZPBS1yxcCURusSypSjbGz7HM 30 30 2.58 1FhKGnAtr6s8gbj7HmzA4H7mytSCQUfvo4 31 50 4.3 15xGnu9mqDuU6JXv5zfcDTTnKdLD8sdmvZ 32 200 17.2 1KWRqQdd4EZ5nHiyzrHBwoFoXJqcKfCvgR 33 1000 86.0 13nS35LWaCbwgKd6kLitdxdLJfEs21p6s8 ------------------------------------------------------------ Sum: 7513
Batch 2 orders are verified, all buyers are identified. Batch 3ID Chips BTC Address Note 01 50 4.3 14ueYQdkjAoFhrfQumZEwzQ3Zg6fALraM8 02 30 2.58 12EZjHjvcm6rwcQcwTMA42pTYx2qoU2xwZ 03 90 7.74 1CzpnPWmCiwPdXsPZq8ZkpA4R1276Wx4BG 04 50 4.3 1LFuHESA9K2AY9Ncpy3wGMpaB6zpTF8U78 05 20 1.72 1EnAtVzS9PuGbiQ6gAMWGCZMP2yBDw33r6 06 50 4.3 14kbcnzSgr6LAQJArzj3GWaYLgoypojEVw 07 150 12.9 1KGPWpFi4UyruQ5ZNohgsJ5oUeZxaTLFUy 08 200 17.2 1Lenny8KpVhqKvxwQFdYh7UZ6LFF4atY6z 09 270 23.22 1JZXXL1bL5oU7qTZJ9y1o1yXEm1HuSDxfx 10 50 4.3 1CtUHkqwYYqW3r5e482KwY9FBLSmJSNN8X 11 20 1.72 1HWcHT9ejkAeHnuwpzGj1uMenZfnUkXB9r 12 100 8.6 16xaGH9D2AwG7yooFeo8qDXvgtPDRRfkDh 13 10 0.86 1HtmFZ1uCCWRp9LWj8Yrk1KTmp2iokrCX1 14 60 5.16 13p3UtJyfHYDA6L4MAHmnHYGQ3qKs2Dc5T 15 170 14.62 1KGPWpFi4UyruQ5ZNohgsJ5oUeZxaTLFUy 16 20 1.72 1F7ErE7As7CWq78ka8rdgGMuumayBY3htE 17 100 8.6 1FvyUu5az9wYcarmaBKdokgg8aq8Smx2KS 18 10 0.86 18NNZA7eV9zdE6B6fT8D3qVtaimMwkDiGh 19 80 6.88 1Nqov5s6cemPrgkwoS9bJmHBcdiyurCTBb 20 40 3.44 1HL7M7nvo8BaQagCJp6hb5LZyThxSn497u 21 100 8.6 1FVmS3LwgYCJauToH7q3hDyTD6EeFMNDMD 22 30 2.58 19svkxfDSoNXM5tVjAGojavZQ4H5N9z4Q 23 60 5.16 1JUyHy7B3DTBYeDxK7iwaWpGHH6mEKFy7b 24 200 17.2 1JRp6vWi4dMUbaiSGxnnZ1Lo31mEnXK9Yo 25 20 1.72 1FcXcUL45YQu4aWmtZLF8uPvJPNYhV6Ee4 26 30 2.58 1CzpnPWmCiwPdXsPZq8ZkpA4R1276Wx4BG 27 40 3.44 1JZXXL1bL5oU7qTZJ9y1o1yXEm1HuSDxfx 28 70 6.02 1KZqvEDfxN7ciANDTeJqrkRdVyY983KwiD 29 120 10.33 1NrTTDSEQHKiSxmQqe7ch8ovMenBjUBkBZ 30 1290 110.94 12knpx2FZaG22k1KCwhMviNZfTwYDjPCeg 31 40 3.44 1PvYMQjpJeUvoDY5SjtHHCfJ5iHwbFhenX 32 60 5.16 1Ekeuh654G5ZN9obLeTuPZT3nnrcJZvXYF 33 600 51.6 1Ex87tbegxtyd1GGLtP1cHBidqxMQZjxhA ------------------------------------------------------------ Sum: 4200 Reserved: 2500 ============================================================ Remaining: 3300
All orders for batch 3 so far are verified. 3300 chips remaining, we need ~75 more coins to order it.
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April 20, 2013, 09:48:22 AM |
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zefir, did you talk to someone at Avalaon about your bulk orders and maybe know if the different batches will be shipped from Avalon at the same time?
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April 20, 2013, 10:02:51 AM |
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Has anyone noticed that in just a few days we've put together the majority of orders for 8.6th worth of chips? Anyone have any thoughts about how adding that to the network alone will multiply the difficulty? Let alone if BFL finally ships? Will the 8.6gh rig I ordered even be able to pay itself off in a year?
Please refund this payment. Thank you.
<u237114006> <30> <2.58> <12EZjHjvcm6rwcQcwTMA42pTYx2qoU2xwZ>
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Actually it's currently more like 120T extra from chips already ordered.
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April 20, 2013, 10:03:36 AM |
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April 20, 2013, 10:07:42 AM |
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zefir, did you talk to someone at Avalaon about your bulk orders and maybe know if the different batches will be shipped from Avalon at the same time?
Well, yes, I'm trying. But as Avalon stated there is zero support, it seems that it also includes not answering PMs. What I can tell for sure is my order status: Order Date Status Total #9921 April 20, 2013 Processing ฿782.10 for 1 item #9725 April 16, 2013 Chips ordered ฿782.10 for 1 item
Seems like the first batch went already in production (with all the other early ordered wafers), while the second is being processed, which I assume means waiting to collect more orders for a larger volume production. I'd say the potential delays between batches are negligible, since there are other lag sources involved, like a maximum PCB assembly rate per day. I understand that time-to-market is everything right now, but whether we wait 10 or 10.5 weeks for the chips is almost irrelevant, imho.
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April 20, 2013, 10:12:42 AM |
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Please read OP. It goes the other way around: you send coins and announce your order here or in PM. Only if required (disputes, mismatches) you have to confirm with your address signing that you sent the coins. That's the most efficient way to handle it, thanks for your understanding.
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