[CLOSED] Avalon ASIC chip distribution

[roybitcoin]

Hello!

I´m really interested in get some 100 ASICS from you but I don´t know how to buy the BTCs (I´m too new in the BTC world). I´m reading the forums looking for get the Bitcoins and only read "dont trust anybody"!! 

Any advice? Point me somewhere please

Thanks a lot in advance

[turtle83]

Any advice? Point me somewhere please

https://localbitcoins.com/

noobie disclaimer : I have never purchased bitcoins from anybody... yet...

[u237114006]

Has anyone noticed that in just a few days we've put together the majority of orders for 8.6th worth of chips? Anyone have any thoughts about how adding that to the network alone will multiply the difficulty? Let alone if BFL finally ships? Will the 8.6gh rig I ordered even be able to pay itself off in a year?

Please refund this payment. Thank you.

<u237114006> <30> <2.58> <12EZjHjvcm6rwcQcwTMA42pTYx2qoU2xwZ>

trans hash sent to zefir in pm

[Knecke]

i would like to make a reservation for 1000 chips, i will send the bitcoins tomorrow in something like 12 hours from now.

Knecke; 1000; 86; 14HEfnVs4Nir7dn6E7tU8tXX6i8CbCJ5d9

[BkkCoins]

Has anyone noticed that in just a few days we've put together the majority of orders for 8.6th worth of chips? Anyone have any thoughts about how adding that to the network alone will multiply the difficulty? Let alone if BFL finally ships? Will the 8.6gh rig I ordered even be able to pay itself off in a year?

Current hash rate: 57 TH/s
New expected in July from chip order: 8.6 TH/s

(57+8.6)/57 = 1.15  or  15% increase. About the same as this last difficulty increase.

I expect the difficulty to be double by June, which would mean,

(114+8.6)/114 = 1.075  or  7.5% increase projected.

Par for the course over the next 7 to 8 months. Why this long?

Because that is how long doubling each month will take until the electricity cost is most of revenue. That seems like a feasible limit before people shut down due to low operating margin. (Assuming constant btc price and we all know how likely that is!)

2^7 = 128
57 * 128 = 7296 TH/s projected.

Now plug that into your mining calculator. We can eventually remove 30 TH/s for GPU drop outs but that will be unnoticed by that time.

[tarmi]

tarmi; 120; 10.33; 1Gzd6mbUUVgDYXwnodmYshJv8MLThQqJvo

[Wassupia]

Wassupia; 40; 3.44; 1PvYMQjpJeUvoDY5SjtHHCfJ5iHwbFhenX

[Jimmy2011]

Jimmy2011; 60; 5.16; 1Ekeuh654G5ZN9obLeTuPZT3nnrcJZvXYF

[John Self]

/solved

[BkkCoins]

JohnSelf; 80; 6.88; 1Nqov5s6cemPrgkwoS9bJmHBcdiyurCTBb

Hmm, I've potentially been scammed for a lot of bitcoins and am unsure if I can pay the fiat fees.
I would like a refund to my senders address if that's at all possible.

If you can't then I'll likely buy some of yours when they arrive. I'm sure these will be easy to sell for some time after chip supply dwindles. Can't right now as I have to mine more coins first.

[John Self]

JohnSelf; 80; 6.88; 1Nqov5s6cemPrgkwoS9bJmHBcdiyurCTBb

Hmm, I've potentially been scammed for a lot of bitcoins and am unsure if I can pay the fiat fees.
I would like a refund to my senders address if that's at all possible.

If you can't then I'll likely buy some of yours when they arrive. I'm sure these will be easy to sell for some time after chip supply dwindles. Can't right now as I have to mine more coins first.

Ok problem solved then, no need for a refund.

[zefir]

Has anyone noticed that in just a few days we've put together the majority of orders for 8.6th worth of chips? Anyone have any thoughts about how adding that to the network alone will multiply the difficulty? Let alone if BFL finally ships? Will the 8.6gh rig I ordered even be able to pay itself off in a year?

Please refund this payment. Thank you.

<u237114006> <30> <2.58> <12EZjHjvcm6rwcQcwTMA42pTYx2qoU2xwZ>

trans hash sent to zefir in pm

Well,

Ordering
A lead time of 10+ weeks in the current sentiment takes ages. We can right now observe the dramatic exchange rate fluctuations, and we might also see some of the competing ASIC manufacturers succeed and flood the market with cheaper solutions. Before you order, please do your risk analysis.

I understand there are quite some newbies ordering (with sub-five total posts), and I am wondering if everybody really understands what he is doing. If you do not know what a private key to an address is or whether you control an address, mining ASICs might not be what you are looking for. I really don't want to be rude, but to openly warn that to prevent tears afterwards you need to know exactly what you are doing here. Note that your orders are binding, i.e. if you later decide you don't need the chips, I can't refund you.

Nevertheless, since your payment was for the pending batch 3, I refunded you.

This will be added as a policy to the OP.

[zefir]

Batch 3 confirmed orders:

Code:

ID       Chips     BTC    Address                               Note
01          50    4.3     14ueYQdkjAoFhrfQumZEwzQ3Zg6fALraM8
02          30    2.58    12EZjHjvcm6rwcQcwTMA42pTYx2qoU2xwZ
03          90    7.74    1CzpnPWmCiwPdXsPZq8ZkpA4R1276Wx4BG
04          50    4.3     1LFuHESA9K2AY9Ncpy3wGMpaB6zpTF8U78
05          20    1.72    1EnAtVzS9PuGbiQ6gAMWGCZMP2yBDw33r6
06          50    4.3     14kbcnzSgr6LAQJArzj3GWaYLgoypojEVw
07         150   12.9     1KGPWpFi4UyruQ5ZNohgsJ5oUeZxaTLFUy
08         200   17.2     1Lenny8KpVhqKvxwQFdYh7UZ6LFF4atY6z
09         270   23.22    1JZXXL1bL5oU7qTZJ9y1o1yXEm1HuSDxfx
10          50    4.3     1CtUHkqwYYqW3r5e482KwY9FBLSmJSNN8X
11          20    1.72    1HWcHT9ejkAeHnuwpzGj1uMenZfnUkXB9r
12         100    8.6     16xaGH9D2AwG7yooFeo8qDXvgtPDRRfkDh
13          10    0.86    1HtmFZ1uCCWRp9LWj8Yrk1KTmp2iokrCX1
14          60    5.16    13p3UtJyfHYDA6L4MAHmnHYGQ3qKs2Dc5T
15         170   14.62    1KGPWpFi4UyruQ5ZNohgsJ5oUeZxaTLFUy
16          20    1.72    1F7ErE7As7CWq78ka8rdgGMuumayBY3htE
17         100    8.6     1FvyUu5az9wYcarmaBKdokgg8aq8Smx2KS
18          10    0.86    18NNZA7eV9zdE6B6fT8D3qVtaimMwkDiGh
19          80    6.88    1Nqov5s6cemPrgkwoS9bJmHBcdiyurCTBb
20          40    3.44    1HL7M7nvo8BaQagCJp6hb5LZyThxSn497u
21         100    8.6     1FVmS3LwgYCJauToH7q3hDyTD6EeFMNDMD
22          30    2.58    19svkxfDSoNXM5tVjAGojavZQ4H5N9z4Q
23          60    5.16    1JUyHy7B3DTBYeDxK7iwaWpGHH6mEKFy7b
24         200   17.2     1JRp6vWi4dMUbaiSGxnnZ1Lo31mEnXK9Yo
25          20    1.72    1FcXcUL45YQu4aWmtZLF8uPvJPNYhV6Ee4
26          30    2.58    1CzpnPWmCiwPdXsPZq8ZkpA4R1276Wx4BG
27          40    3.44    1JZXXL1bL5oU7qTZJ9y1o1yXEm1HuSDxfx
28          70    6.02    1KZqvEDfxN7ciANDTeJqrkRdVyY983KwiD
29         120   10.33    please claim: 63740027773c459bbf8a360f6d36dcfa44d0c7f89a7390243d8fabfe879a9134
30        1290  110.94    12knpx2FZaG22k1KCwhMviNZfTwYDjPCeg
31          40    3.44    1PvYMQjpJeUvoDY5SjtHHCfJ5iHwbFhenX
32          60    5.16    1Ekeuh654G5ZN9obLeTuPZT3nnrcJZvXYF
33         600   51.6     1Ex87tbegxtyd1GGLtP1cHBidqxMQZjxhA
------------------------------------------------------------
Sum:        4200
Reserved:   2500
============================================================
Remaining:  3300

One order for 120 chips mismatches in the sending address, please claim via PM.

[nsfsj]

@zefir
I have done two orders which you can accumulate into one (from the same address: 1KGPWpFi4UyruQ5ZNohgsJ5oUeZxaTLFUy).
Still needs 3.3k more before ordering Batch 3, right?

[zefir]

After some claims were processed, here are the updated order lists:

Batch 1

Code:

ID       Chips     BTC    Address                               Note
01         500   43.00    15AkZM1u2jXhetHEKLnQ5ScM6bvjGePYHd
02          30    2.58    1B9WDgtyDmqrqyMFp63mqTiiGsat5CQLyM
03        2000  172.00    13BQocSpK6Ny8xubRGSXvdw5r4aTVBkrNp
04         100    8.60    15BEMHdT27kP2K6Yca2rEGwChRuzuHub8s
05          10    0.86    1G88KbjZi39ZA3BMXDwfmzidVDf2y2BKSp
06          10    0.86    1Pv44QYXwC3FMiNZgXcpZRKyuXXueyVRrd
07         390   33.54    1DDBpNCBHARLzk8wDpB3oHozm5aovxeCk6
08          10    0.86    1Kjvxd9CbnYbigcC13gS5VAd2asNcdVSyH
09          12    1.032   1MarbLezGShArudGnm7o1Z7K9iQQ9CdKU4    + #19
10          10    0.86    12B6RWnmeF8Rji2JTLDizMN9NTH4sZUYwD
11          25    2.15    1Q8ECj9GzWhhp9Vi2WqYnNP7msMQwvxrT9    + #24
12          50    4.30    1C4XvmnGkWkWzbHUvTK3x2cpkeZjfY51bg
13          10    0.86    14o3Xk5cbDMnYeBRW6pVgMuMJfC2gEhFpr
14         600   51.60    1B8HcvE1Ag2eUR5fJZU29r7wgV9A7Rn91U
15          40    3.44    13p3UtJyfHYDA6L4MAHmnHYGQ3qKs2Dc5T
16          20    1.72    1EFrzG2hfUdhAzAHiFgZ3DEg6wHa7JFEg9
17          30    2.58    1QHyDiUvu1GpmNQfYAJpw67XSuEZfDNgeC 
18          10    0.86    1E26zhEHQq1AgkjnxchuRs1stwVH9X8Gni
19           8    0.688   1MarbLezGShArudGnm7o1Z7K9iQQ9CdKU4
20          50    4.30    13FdjGU6P6q6ypqWVQ2fJpF93ikTKTH2yS
21          70    6.02    16LtRGhh6wV65rntyvYPvnUNT3Lgv7xhDH
22          50    4.30    1JVfngaFgaqa3BqBeP7ftFdPwr2sD514y3
23         100    8.60    16cdEgS1LfoAXC1uJhVaoSsYaDeoT2oDyo
24           5    0.43    1Q8ECj9GzWhhp9Vi2WqYnNP7msMQwvxrT9
25         100    8.60    1JLzgdt3JhnSxQEgWv8Zd828M2eawGRuZA
26          10    0.86    1LfDCbF7A1eegFymzCwYiWXuYsgPtgX8SL
27          10    0.86    1ND1i4rcY7RJkJv9JvpizY51RjUYnhpJVQ
28          50    4.30    1P7NGKHZBtpcUbqfRa4WX4fQnVNM7rRoyX
29          10    0.86    14r1y5Roeoia26nqq4JiQrywXNsKfZ3s9D
30          10    0.86    please claim: 9d26a84631735b01bf174bf0a7491c2ea142fe46315adb07d218f1c1cad174fa
31         110    9.46    1GhNkFnaXgcEBuJwgJhXHLjXZJrqLNFKbV
32          30    2.58    1KqaXegcLn72rMYAerZLq3PiHz7WScjXvM
33         500   43.00    1Kfsuv5xnVZHjkw7jdFyhAMWdRzoRQH8ks
34          40    3.44    1ENc8QsvnMc3jDoYqh8jkycqS37MQM47Ep
35         100    8.60    12HMTWSXTX9aQCBU6kRAZU5MwgNmGr8HjS
36          20    1.72    1Pv44QYXwC3FMiNZgXcpZRKyuXXueyVRrd
37          50    4.30    1JPtkDdgbbNxJgWjYtwMfWsLhAHdWR6TeQ
38         200    17.2    15BEMHdT27kP2K6Yca2rEGwChRuzuHub8s
39          10     0.859  please claim: 5e1f6a1be41a36c43057e7afb2f4dab5a72b144bed15f01ddd93e13c54239fa5
40         200    17.2    1pDimB6dXL5Cbqs1XDY8onkFj9deHmn7h
------------------------------------------------------------
Sum:        5590

The two not yet claimed orders of 10 chips are from folks waiting to get released from newbie-jail.


Batch 2

Code:

ID       Chips     BTC    Address                               Note
01         380   32.68    1Bgu2w4vBTXDDkpWkjAeomVnRRYASnCaJV
02          10    0.86    14aDJ3ciTmMpkW3etG6bNMN1oQQLhJmPMt
03         700   60.2     19mhMrsLVg6dnaskWWoyY92GuSFBk6mvqQ
04         120   10.32    1xbbjJcbeD4Qi88QmJmMgTFSdm7b5WCG4
05         400   34.40    1JbxcwwAy3ozAriSQ1Vexhz7AH6a6kNrpX
06         300   25.8     12ayokFPh7YdNhXDXAbMiHXM4nyvjqyQxd
07         120   10.32    1F7aPwhDyAJ8qFeLhVywg6pL1Wr7BpnCJb
08         300   25.8     1JRp6vWi4dMUbaiSGxnnZ1Lo31mEnXK9Yo
09          10    0.86    13r3a2wPR2ZiQbmN9XiQjcKWutnike6H6f
10         500   43.00    17zBXRqsibwYriEALvmVgaKizhvXrGLPJA
11          10    0.86    14ueYQdkjAoFhrfQumZEwzQ3Zg6fALraM8
12          80    6.88    16Mszwah7Czzgs1ULEuj5ZUfWvkYbMgZG6
13          10    0.86    1PVPGVQGfT8xiUYTNFkBxH7yRBQdUtNrvX
14         100    8.6     1EcMQxq7XBGsim5BpGune56wZpthcEFQN9;
15         700   60.2     1MSoqSFoyaPfpm8UiH1KRzWYx3ECcdWCPu
16          50    4.3     1PvHpCqmXbwzY2gPJUE1CQU4rxqXB5adcS
17          10    0.86    17EGdqGPUhmuofSXyGiu1PRSfLY4rXPTP5
18          23    1.978   1KERRChugfoma3VmJt68ezWdF3pMaZNmy6    invalid, will reduce to 20
19          10    0.86    198S1UfpVvLXJoLWYBJNsZnVQoyHFv5jku
20         650   55.9     12knpx2FZaG22k1KCwhMviNZfTwYDjPCeg
21         500   43.0     162HWpt9njiDsk5nwGixw7fDPuNy55Kh9X
22          20    1.72    1KaPfXZPnmVnsSGsfLFY9aoNb8bUf3zr89
23          30    2.58    19n18f4D1cSRHJH5cMVxBV5LobmJk64hqX
24         320   27.52    15Y5NPeCU2zSmrwscBnSi8uybhVEqpE7bi
25         200   17.2     1QBekJ4bZAe54EvUo3hHLgARcUTXY4dqcP
26         100    8.6     16xaGH9D2AwG7yooFeo8qDXvgtPDRRfkDh
27         360   30.96    16q2XVdzjaKbiBVwzMaaHqsG1iGN3FHaFV
28         200   17.2     1KhLXFABZrV4ztf7KKYpWKZqauy5tmWjdz
29          20    1.72    16rhiVKfQvZPBS1yxcCURusSypSjbGz7HM
30          30    2.58    1FhKGnAtr6s8gbj7HmzA4H7mytSCQUfvo4
31          50    4.3     15xGnu9mqDuU6JXv5zfcDTTnKdLD8sdmvZ
32         200   17.2     1KWRqQdd4EZ5nHiyzrHBwoFoXJqcKfCvgR
33        1000   86.0     13nS35LWaCbwgKd6kLitdxdLJfEs21p6s8
------------------------------------------------------------
Sum:        7513

Batch 2 orders are verified, all buyers are identified.


Batch 3

Code:

ID       Chips     BTC    Address                               Note
01          50    4.3     14ueYQdkjAoFhrfQumZEwzQ3Zg6fALraM8
02          30    2.58    12EZjHjvcm6rwcQcwTMA42pTYx2qoU2xwZ
03          90    7.74    1CzpnPWmCiwPdXsPZq8ZkpA4R1276Wx4BG
04          50    4.3     1LFuHESA9K2AY9Ncpy3wGMpaB6zpTF8U78
05          20    1.72    1EnAtVzS9PuGbiQ6gAMWGCZMP2yBDw33r6
06          50    4.3     14kbcnzSgr6LAQJArzj3GWaYLgoypojEVw
07         150   12.9     1KGPWpFi4UyruQ5ZNohgsJ5oUeZxaTLFUy
08         200   17.2     1Lenny8KpVhqKvxwQFdYh7UZ6LFF4atY6z
09         270   23.22    1JZXXL1bL5oU7qTZJ9y1o1yXEm1HuSDxfx
10          50    4.3     1CtUHkqwYYqW3r5e482KwY9FBLSmJSNN8X
11          20    1.72    1HWcHT9ejkAeHnuwpzGj1uMenZfnUkXB9r
12         100    8.6     16xaGH9D2AwG7yooFeo8qDXvgtPDRRfkDh
13          10    0.86    1HtmFZ1uCCWRp9LWj8Yrk1KTmp2iokrCX1
14          60    5.16    13p3UtJyfHYDA6L4MAHmnHYGQ3qKs2Dc5T
15         170   14.62    1KGPWpFi4UyruQ5ZNohgsJ5oUeZxaTLFUy
16          20    1.72    1F7ErE7As7CWq78ka8rdgGMuumayBY3htE
17         100    8.6     1FvyUu5az9wYcarmaBKdokgg8aq8Smx2KS
18          10    0.86    18NNZA7eV9zdE6B6fT8D3qVtaimMwkDiGh
19          80    6.88    1Nqov5s6cemPrgkwoS9bJmHBcdiyurCTBb
20          40    3.44    1HL7M7nvo8BaQagCJp6hb5LZyThxSn497u
21         100    8.6     1FVmS3LwgYCJauToH7q3hDyTD6EeFMNDMD
22          30    2.58    19svkxfDSoNXM5tVjAGojavZQ4H5N9z4Q
23          60    5.16    1JUyHy7B3DTBYeDxK7iwaWpGHH6mEKFy7b
24         200   17.2     1JRp6vWi4dMUbaiSGxnnZ1Lo31mEnXK9Yo
25          20    1.72    1FcXcUL45YQu4aWmtZLF8uPvJPNYhV6Ee4
26          30    2.58    1CzpnPWmCiwPdXsPZq8ZkpA4R1276Wx4BG
27          40    3.44    1JZXXL1bL5oU7qTZJ9y1o1yXEm1HuSDxfx
28          70    6.02    1KZqvEDfxN7ciANDTeJqrkRdVyY983KwiD
29         120   10.33    1NrTTDSEQHKiSxmQqe7ch8ovMenBjUBkBZ
30        1290  110.94    12knpx2FZaG22k1KCwhMviNZfTwYDjPCeg
31          40    3.44    1PvYMQjpJeUvoDY5SjtHHCfJ5iHwbFhenX
32          60    5.16    1Ekeuh654G5ZN9obLeTuPZT3nnrcJZvXYF
33         600   51.6     1Ex87tbegxtyd1GGLtP1cHBidqxMQZjxhA
------------------------------------------------------------
Sum:        4200
Reserved:   2500
============================================================
Remaining:  3300

All orders for batch 3 so far are verified. 3300 chips remaining, we need ~75 more coins to order it.

[maxmint]

zefir, did you talk to someone at Avalaon about your bulk orders and maybe know if the different batches will be shipped from Avalon at the same time?

[peetah]

Has anyone noticed that in just a few days we've put together the majority of orders for 8.6th worth of chips? Anyone have any thoughts about how adding that to the network alone will multiply the difficulty? Let alone if BFL finally ships? Will the 8.6gh rig I ordered even be able to pay itself off in a year?

Please refund this payment. Thank you.

<u237114006> <30> <2.58> <12EZjHjvcm6rwcQcwTMA42pTYx2qoU2xwZ>

trans hash sent to zefir in pm

Actually it's currently more like 120T extra from chips already ordered.

[Knecke]

Please confirm, and i am in batch #3?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=177827.msg1889922#msg1889922

[zefir]

zefir, did you talk to someone at Avalaon about your bulk orders and maybe know if the different batches will be shipped from Avalon at the same time?

Well, yes, I'm trying. But as Avalon stated there is zero support, it seems that it also includes not answering PMs.

What I can tell for sure is my order status:

Code:

Order   Date            Status          Total
#9921   April 20, 2013 	Processing 	฿782.10 for 1 item
#9725   April 16, 2013 	Chips ordered 	฿782.10 for 1 item

Seems like the first batch went already in production (with all the other early ordered wafers), while the second is being processed, which I assume means waiting to collect more orders for a larger volume production.

I'd say the potential delays between batches are negligible, since there are other lag sources involved, like a maximum PCB assembly rate per day. I understand that time-to-market is everything right now, but whether we wait 10 or 10.5 weeks for the chips is almost irrelevant, imho.

[zefir]

Please confirm, and i am in batch #3?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=177827.msg1889922#msg1889922

Please read OP. It goes the other way around: you send coins and announce your order here or in PM. Only if required (disputes, mismatches) you have to confirm with your address signing that you sent the coins. That's the most efficient way to handle it, thanks for your understanding.