[CLOSED] Avalon ASIC chip distribution

[makngeerwork]

Thanks for the update.  The pm's sure are flying. 50% unassigned is terrible, lets get posting supporters, lots of good work being done here.

Sending Bkk some support


SUP; BkkCoins; makngeerwork

[shep80]

I documented my failure here, the tl;dr-version is like this: one single payment for chips came from a freshly mined block, causing the payment being delayed. When the coins finally made it into Avalon's wallet, exceeding the payment window (8h) their order system cancelled that order meanwhile. That's where I am now: coins gone and no active order for batch 8.

I tried to get in contact with team Avalon at any way I could think of for six weeks now - no single answer so far. No wonder, I agreed to get zero support when ordered   In effect, all buybacks I have processed so far are nothing compared to the lack of a full batch.

Bottom line: there won't be additional chips available from this group-buy. I am sorry, but hope you understand.

Am I reading this correct -- essentially you have paid for 8 batches but only have 7 orders, due to a mix-up with payment on the 8th batch?

This sounds terrible and certainly not your fault! It is a real shame Avalon can't (or rather won't) correct this.

As someone who was sending you recent mining proceeds for chips I certainly hope it wasn't my payment that screwed it up! 

You have done an excellent job with the chip distribution so far, thank you for your work here.

[zefir]

Am I reading this correct -- essentially you have paid for 8 batches but only have 7 orders, due to a mix-up with payment on the 8th batch?

Yes, exactly that

This sounds terrible and certainly not your fault! It is a real shame Avalon can't (or rather won't) correct this.

Well, this sub-forum is full of folks posting their problems with Avalon publicly as their last resort, and even this does not motivate them to respond. This is far beyond 'zero support' and it is a pity to see how such a bunch of excellent engineers succeeded to destroy their reputation by letting their customers / investors down in such a rude and arrogant way.

As someone who was sending you recent mining proceeds for chips I certainly hope it wasn't my payment that screwed it up! 

You have done an excellent job with the chip distribution so far, thank you for your work here.

I don't remember which payment it was and it is not important at all. It was my mistake to forward all the collected coins to Avalon without prior checking that all payments are confirmed (I would have expected MyWallet to warn me about that problem, though). One more time learned the hard way, sadly this was an expensive one.

[BkkCoins]

I find that whole situation totally ridiculous on BitSynCom's part. $78,000 is no small amount of money. And no support doesn't mean take your money and then totally ignore you.

I understand they don't want to provide technical support for the chips, but that certainly doesn't mean they can take money and then not communicate in any way about sales orders. When I saw the conference video of Yifu he didn't strike me as that kind of guy, but I have to wonder now.

You can hardly take at face value his talk about "the community" and supporting Bitcoin when he completely ignores a customer who sent almost $1 million his way for chips. Doesn't that make you question what's going on over there? I mean, WTF?

[Jimmy2011]

I want to buy some chips from the first, second group. If you are interested in such a resell, please send me a message. Thank you.

[conv3rsion]

I find that whole situation totally ridiculous on BitSynCom's part. $78,000 is no small amount of money. And no support doesn't mean take your money and then totally ignore you.

I understand they don't want to provide technical support for the chips, but that certainly doesn't mean they can take money and then not communicate in any way about sales orders. When I saw the conference video of Yifu he didn't strike me as that kind of guy, but I have to wonder now.

You can hardly take at face value his talk about "the community" and supporting Bitcoin when he completely ignores a customer who sent almost $1 million his way for chips. Doesn't that make you question what's going on over there? I mean, WTF?

Its really sad. Yifu seems like a standup guy. And he's now rich. And yet there are people who still haven't received their batch 1 avalons. I mean for god's sake, hire some people to do support.

[zefir]

I find that whole situation totally ridiculous on BitSynCom's part. $78,000 is no small amount of money. And no support doesn't mean take your money and then totally ignore you.

I understand they don't want to provide technical support for the chips, but that certainly doesn't mean they can take money and then not communicate in any way about sales orders. When I saw the conference video of Yifu he didn't strike me as that kind of guy, but I have to wonder now.

You can hardly take at face value his talk about "the community" and supporting Bitcoin when he completely ignores a customer who sent almost $1 million his way for chips. Doesn't that make you question what's going on over there? I mean, WTF?

Its really sad. Yifu seems like a standup guy. And he's now rich. And yet there are people who still haven't received their batch 1 avalons. I mean for god's sake, hire some people to do support.

You got it wrong: they are not after the money - they want to fight centralization and do the community a favor. At least that's what I read somewhere.

It is hard to stay calm in this situation, but in our best interest I'll refrain from escalating this until the chip deal is finalized.

[weaknesswaran]

OWN; weaknesswaran

[Schrankwand]

You got it wrong: they are not after the money - they want to fight centralization and do the community a favor. At least that's what I read somewhere.

And get funding money for his tablet device

[600watt]

Am I reading this correct -- essentially you have paid for 8 batches but only have 7 orders, due to a mix-up with payment on the 8th batch?

Yes, exactly that

This sounds terrible and certainly not your fault! It is a real shame Avalon can't (or rather won't) correct this.

Well, this sub-forum is full of folks posting their problems with Avalon publicly as their last resort, and even this does not motivate them to respond. This is far beyond 'zero support' and it is a pity to see how such a bunch of excellent engineers succeeded to destroy their reputation by letting their customers / investors down in such a rude and arrogant way.

As someone who was sending you recent mining proceeds for chips I certainly hope it wasn't my payment that screwed it up!  

You have done an excellent job with the chip distribution so far, thank you for your work here.

I don't remember which payment it was and it is not important at all. It was my mistake to forward all the collected coins to Avalon without prior checking that all payments are confirmed (I would have expected MyWallet to warn me about that problem, though). One more time learned the hard way, sadly this was an expensive one.

that is incredible,

avalon star is sinking fast. i am engaged in avalon batch 3 group buy and your avalon chip group buy batch 7. approx. 8 k € is only a fraction of your batch 8 problem, but still is a mess.

i suggest if avalon is not responding correctly, the loss at batch 8 should be devided up within the other batches. i would be willing to donate my share.

edit: i had several issues with probable loss at exchanges, but it got sorted

the community should try to stick together to avoid terrible losses to individuals. we all - more or less - profited in this game so far. why not give some back ?

[tigerbit]

SUP;tigerbit;burnin

[conv3rsion]

SUP;conv3rsion;BkkCoins

[ghostshirt]

sup;;burnin;;ghostshirt

[zefir]

that is incredible,

avalon star is sinking fast. i am engaged in avalon batch 3 group buy and your avalon chip group buy batch 7. approx. 8 k € is only a fraction of your batch 8 problem, but still is a mess.

i suggest if avalon is not responding correctly, the loss at batch 8 should be devided up within the other batches. i would be willing to donate my share.

edit: i had several issues with probable loss at exchanges, but it got sorted

the community should try to stick together to avoid terrible losses to individuals. we all - more or less - profited in this game so far. why not give some back ?

Thanks for the kind words and your offer for helping me to recover from that loss. Really appreciate it, but I am not going to involve you buyers in this. First, it is not yet a loss: Avalon might decide to check one day and refund me the coins. Second, the 10% premium I charged from you are meant exactly for covering this kind of risks. This time I lost, next time it might work out better.

Cheers

[nemercry]

SUP;nemercry;burnin

[BenTuras]

First, it is not yet a loss: Avalon might decide to check one day and refund me the coins.

Or send the chips, which would be an even better outcome.

[zefir]

First, it is not yet a loss: Avalon might decide to check one day and refund me the coins.

Or send the chips, which would be an even better outcome.

Yes, if they would make it in time. If they otherwise show up next year, well...

[600watt]

that is incredible,

avalon star is sinking fast. i am engaged in avalon batch 3 group buy and your avalon chip group buy batch 7. approx. 8 k € is only a fraction of your batch 8 problem, but still is a mess.

i suggest if avalon is not responding correctly, the loss at batch 8 should be devided up within the other batches. i would be willing to donate my share.

edit: i had several issues with probable loss at exchanges, but it got sorted

the community should try to stick together to avoid terrible losses to individuals. we all - more or less - profited in this game so far. why not give some back ?

Thanks for the kind words and your offer for helping me to recover from that loss. Really appreciate it, but I am not going to involve you buyers in this. First, it is not yet a loss: Avalon might decide to check one day and refund me the coins. Second, the 10% premium I charged from you are meant exactly for covering this kind of risks. This time I lost, next time it might work out better.

Cheers

noble. i wish you luck.

[Hiroaki]

OWN;Hiroaki

[zefir]

Update: Delivery of Sample Chips started

Delivery of sample chips seems to have started, someone in Chine reported to have received them here.

Therefore we need to finalize the preparation for the sample chip distribution as follows:

1) Supporters
Around one third of chips are not yet assigned. If you have not done yet, please do so now.

2) Owners
If you did not get enough support for at least one sample chip, please consider delegating your portion to some other developer of your choice.

If you are entitled to get some sample chips from me, please

• check if you want them, which you will have to pay the shipping and handling costs as described in the OP
• provide me your shipping address via board PM or email. You might want to PGP encrypt it (my public key is in my sig) if you are concerned about your privacy (encrypted messages only via email).

Current status:

Code:

Users decided   :   117 /   266 (43.98%)
Chips assigned  : 35640 / 55450 (64.27%)

Owner          Project                own chips  supporters  total chips   sample chips
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BkkCoins       Klondike                   130          12         2200        6.60
Exoskeleton    Exoskeleton                120           1          170        0.51
Hiroaki        Hiroaki                   5500           0         5500       16.50
OROBANK        OROBANK                    100           0          100        0.30
allten         The Quarter Stick            0           0            0        0.00
bitmine.ch     Avalon Clone                 0           0            0        0.00
burnin         BITburner XX                 0          71        11510       34.52
danattacker    danattacker                 10           0           10        0.03
flyonwall      ASIC Chip Condo            960           1         1360        4.08
hata1234       hata1234                   960           0          960        2.88
jcp            jcp                       1150           0         1150        3.45
marto74        marto74                     60           2         2110        6.33
rgzen          rgzen                      500           9          920        2.76
ryepdx         ryepdx                       0           2          100        0.30
stripykitteh   Caterpillar                200           2          450        1.35
strombom       strombom                   650           1          700        2.10
weaknesswaran  weaknesswaran             1000           0         1000        3.00