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November 09, 2015, 11:08:44 PM

Noticing that Wally the Wall Guy, is popping a 1300 BTC Ask Wall on Bitstamp, then pulling it, then putting it back up.

Also a Monster Wall (relative to it's size) on Kraken.

Will be the same entity as yesterday, with his Wall going in at right the same price point, but with the Wall(s) on that occassion being Bid Walls......which were eventually eaten up....by himself...or who knows, maybe even the rest of the market.
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November 09, 2015, 11:09:57 PM

China rally is re-started, might be a huge breakout coming:



I see what you mean. Looking good.
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November 09, 2015, 11:24:36 PM

The BTC market is unpredictable in the short term, but longer term the obvious patterns form.  If you are a long term bull, then trade on the long term patterns.  Buy/accumulate when the market is bottomed and no one cares, sell near top of rallies.  Then be patient to get back in, because a rally bubble can take a while to unwind. A LONG while.  There may even be several mini bull runs/short squeezes along the way, but ultimately the price ends up bottoming out way lower and all volume/volatility dies.

How about this as a strategy for a lazy trader (like me)? It's the cross-overs of K and J of the KDJ indicator.



Yeah, these indicators are great for telling traders what has already happened.....

Look back to Sept 30th 2013. Bitcoin was just above $100, we had the Silk Road crash, and the Weekly KDJ was pointing DOWN! Probably, at the time, the KDJ was right on the point of crossover, except Bitcoin then shot up to $1200, and the lagging KDJ indicator took a slight little turn up again, for just a short time, as Bitcoin went up by over 1000%.

In otherwords, a fucking terrible indicator to be using in isolation.

Well I must say...

I think Torque is close...and The mad cat in da hat has made some interesting posts!

See you guys in da AM!

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November 09, 2015, 11:32:43 PM

I really hope this is Stofl's campus Cheesy

Brazilian University Accepts Bitcoin, Installs Campus ATM
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November 09, 2015, 11:38:57 PM


A "private" University? Pfffft.

BRL derived from taxes tastes so much sweeter.
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November 09, 2015, 11:43:26 PM
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LOL!!!

It's not his uni, but it is his city!

Probably did it just to annoy him.

We only get to experience the text version. How do you think he is in real life?

"Professor of e-learning Rubim Leandro said he believes adding bitcoin as a payment method will further cement FIAP's standing as a local leader in technology."

Burn! That's got to hurt.

Srsly. Best news all year!
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November 09, 2015, 11:44:26 PM

The BTC market is unpredictable in the short term, but longer term the obvious patterns form.  If you are a long term bull, then trade on the long term patterns.  Buy/accumulate when the market is bottomed and no one cares, sell near top of rallies.  Then be patient to get back in, because a rally bubble can take a while to unwind. A LONG while.  There may even be several mini bull runs/short squeezes along the way, but ultimately the price ends up bottoming out way lower and all volume/volatility dies.

How about this as a strategy for a lazy trader (like me)? It's the cross-overs of K and J of the KDJ indicator.



Hasn't crossed over quite yet  Wink

It did on Bitfinex. Anyway, if it does happen to bounce off, I'll just have to take the loss. Even if it goes wrong once every two years, it's still pretty good.

Have you backtested it against historical data?  Performing well down is one thing, sideways is another, that tends to kill MA crossover strategies.  Goomboo's Journal thread has some relevant advice. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=60501.0

Edit: If you start looking for optimal signals, you might want to try this heatmap approach: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=60501.msg736808#msg736808




Thanks for the links. The graph covers the past two years. Indeed, when it goes sideways the cross-overs creep to the middle and it works less well. And it works best on the weekly chart.
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November 09, 2015, 11:55:21 PM

The BTC market is unpredictable in the short term, but longer term the obvious patterns form.  If you are a long term bull, then trade on the long term patterns.  Buy/accumulate when the market is bottomed and no one cares, sell near top of rallies.  Then be patient to get back in, because a rally bubble can take a while to unwind. A LONG while.  There may even be several mini bull runs/short squeezes along the way, but ultimately the price ends up bottoming out way lower and all volume/volatility dies.

How about this as a strategy for a lazy trader (like me)? It's the cross-overs of K and J of the KDJ indicator.



Yeah, these indicators are great for telling traders what has already happened.....

Look back to Sept 30th 2013. Bitcoin was just above $100, we had the Silk Road crash, and the Weekly KDJ was pointing DOWN! Probably, at the time, the KDJ was right on the point of crossover, except Bitcoin then shot up to $1200, and the lagging KDJ indicator took a slight little turn up again, for just a short time, as Bitcoin went up by over 1000%.

In otherwords, a fucking terrible indicator to be using in isolation.

I agree that it looked like a cross-over was coming, but it didn't (as the chart shows). Hence, don't act until the cross-over actually happens.

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November 09, 2015, 11:58:37 PM


LOL!!!

It's not his uni, but it is his city!

Probably did it just to annoy him.

We only get to experience the text version. How do you think he is in real life?

I bet he's really cuddly, like a teddy bear right out of the dryer:)
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November 10, 2015, 12:01:22 AM

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November 10, 2015, 12:03:50 AM


LOL!!!

It's not his uni, but it is his city!

Probably did it just to annoy him.

We only get to experience the text version. How do you think he is in real life?

"Professor of e-learning Rubim Leandro said he believes adding bitcoin as a payment method will further cement FIAP's standing as a local leader in technology."

Burn! That's got to hurt.

Srsly. Best news all year.

Hahahahaha...

After the many efforts of Stolfi to educate the masses (at least through bitcointalk regarding the potential perils of bitcoin), he's got an ATM opening in his back yard.  After a few more years, given his apparent level of stubborn, maybe he will be the only one in his town in fiat?   hahahaha




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November 10, 2015, 12:11:03 AM

If China gets above 2550....



By the way, it seems that in recent months, Stamp and/or the west does not necessarily follow China on a regular basis or even follow the various Chinese ups and downs; however, if the exchange difference become too great, then it seems that at that point, Stamp's prices will start to follow China.  I don't know if there is a better way of explaining the phenomenon that seems to be taking place in recent times in this apparent reluctancy relationship.
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November 10, 2015, 12:15:43 AM

There goes Bear Whale on Stamp....

All the other exchanges are wanting to head up...but nope....

Edit: And I bet that BTC will not breach the recent $360 bottom, and I bet it will rise back up, but not breach the $388.

Market being held in stasis, quite intetionally, it seems.
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November 10, 2015, 12:23:08 AM

There goes Bear Whale on Stamp....

All the other exchanges are wanting to head up...but nope....

Edit: And I bet that BTC will not breach the recent $360 bottom, and I bet it will rise back up, but not breach the $388.

Market being held in stasis, quite intetionally, it seems.

Yea, looked like Bernanke needed to stop that China rally.
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November 10, 2015, 12:24:38 AM

There goes Bear Whale on Stamp....

All the other exchanges are wanting to head up...but nope....

Edit: And I bet that BTC will not breach the recent $360 bottom, and I bet it will rise back up, but not breach the $388.

Market being held in stasis, quite intetionally, it seems.

I'm not one for manipulation, but there have definitely been questionable trades that make me wonder.

Such as the dump you are referencing...
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November 10, 2015, 12:26:01 AM

Multiple winning bidders of USMS aution all win with bids considerably under spot. Each one wondering if the other is going to dump. What would you do? Dump first and lock in profits or roll the dice?
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November 10, 2015, 12:27:44 AM

Multiple winning bidders of USMS aution all win with bids considerably under spot. Each one wondering if the other is going to dump. What would you do? Dump first and lock in profits or roll the dice?


You are a fool if you think they are going to buy with the intent on selling immediately.
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November 10, 2015, 12:28:13 AM

Multiple winning bidders of USMS aution all win with bids considerably under spot.

And where's the evidence of how much they paid?
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November 10, 2015, 12:29:21 AM

There goes Bear Whale on Stamp....

All the other exchanges are wanting to head up...but nope....

Edit: And I bet that BTC will not breach the recent $360 bottom, and I bet it will rise back up, but not breach the $388.

Market being held in stasis, quite intetionally, it seems.

Yea, looked like Bernanke needed to stop that China rally.

Definitely just one entity at work on Stamp...I posted earlier about all these massive walls going up there, and on Kraken.....he took the Stamp wall down as the China break out effort kicked off (probs incase it actually got eaten), and now he has just clattered the price down $10, just as he is no doubt responsible, or will be responsible for bringing it back up to around $380.

This is just one entity, successfully holding the whole cross exchange market in place.....pretty much all the other exchanges followed Stamp, except BTC-E.

What is his game?

Is he trying to hold Bitcoin in place until some point in time?

Is he trying to mould technicals? If so, is he attempting to inflate volume to show strong 'support' at these levels, or is he trying to hold BTC in it's place until Bearish indicators bear down on Bitcoin?


Whatever, I am still long term bullish. I know Bitcoin is coming on to a winning streak, no matter what.



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November 10, 2015, 12:29:42 AM

Multiple winning bidders of USMS aution all win with bids considerably under spot.

And where's the evidence of how much they paid?

I'm assuming. Consider it a hypothetical question.
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