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I can't believe that people still pay so much money for diamonds. It's possible to create synthetic diamonds which cannot be distinguished from real ones.

Sighs...they are not paying for it being sturdy, but for it being a unique object among the natural diamonds.
This kind of things WILL be popular among bitcoiners (when btc is at $1-5mil/btc...).

Putting a bit more thought to it, I propose to call Finney's $10mil price Finney's conjecture or Finney's limit/ceiling (Hal's limit/conjecture/ceiling works too).
At $10mil per "big unit", that diamond is "just" 2btc-a good present for someone's round birthday, anniversary, etc. if you only need/want to do it once and then keep it in the family. Good packing of value in a small volume too.
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India is getting hammered by Covid-19. Situation over there is worse than the chaos what i saw in Brazil.

Absolute madness.

*nod* I'm kind of wondering what the fuck happened, could this be the result of that stupid religious holiday a month ago? If so then man, those Gods are *pissed*

People not wearing masks, and the government allowing massive crowds to gather in the name of religion so they can get votes next election. All this combined with the fact that we're low on oxygen cylinders, and hospital beds are over capacity by a huge amount

I have not met you... so I will try not to be an asshole right out of the gate.  But I find it cognitively very challenging that you can type the bolded, and also have the words: "Be decentralized, be sovryn" in your profile.

People dying from covid is certainly a difficult and challenging problem.  But my limit for where I find it acceptable for a government to deny it's people to assemble is MUCH MUCH higher than yours seemingly.

Millennial or younger?

Religion and tradition should not be an excuse to let people die. When the politicians are saying "Death is inevitable but traditions must go on" it is very hard to agree with them. Everyone deserves freedom, but it shouldn't come at the cost of others.

Younger

Are you nuts?
You are basically giving the government a freecard to do what ever they want with the people as long as they can say that it is "to protect others".

The supreme court is a thing? This is the stupidest shit ive heard

You will have to elaborate on that, and what jurisdiction? What supreme court? And why do you want whatever supreme court you mean to lock people up? Do you want them to be locked up when they get the flu as well?
The numbers are getting pretty accurate now and it seams that the death toll is approximately the same as for the asian and the Hong Kong and less then the Spanish flues.
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find a songwriter too while you at it ... you sure as hell can't do that either
 

Oh my....are we a little salty today bro? ...lol
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Picture a mouse and an elephant.
Picture how much a particular person contributed to bitcoin success (via promoting mining, teaching people how to do it with detailed know how, reviews, etc, etc.).
Then picture someone whose contributions are mostly endless diatribes about minutia.

Now, let me propose that @philipma1957 is the elephant (for those in the know in the broader community) and @JJG is the mouse.
Then, picture a mouse telling an elephant that it s mad or less mad at it because of some blah blah (whatever).
The funny thing is, irl elephants are afraid of the mice.
They shouldn't be.

Finito la comedia


I like that.

But the really funny thing is elephants simply don’t give a fuck about mice.

I am simply getting old and cranky and annoyed too easily.

I Don’t know if it is being 64 and finally have positioned myself  in a good way when it comes to coiins.

I don’t know if it is that i helped setup hundreds of people to make money mining.

Trading is and will never be my thing. But I came to this thread last year because I thought the time was ripe for the bull to start running.

So I turned out to be correct. So to all I will post here and I will post what I please.

deal with it.


but i do not say buy shit coins.

go back and read what I post.



actually for me is the fact that someday if lucky I will be in a nice nursing home like my parents..were at before they passed...a fine place...but....even if you are on the ball..you can't

play with finances and such...you'd have a living estate you are in a nursing home by the by....you could I suppose look at grandkids stuff. not the same

can't have cash in a nursing home that is a vulnerable adult issue...you have a dorm sized room...can't fill it up with junk...so be it a school teacher

or a banker...once in the nursing home it is simply giving young staff a bad time and a ribbing and/or sweet-talking your way into another tapioca pudding cup...

since then...nice as it was for my parents (by the by...go to small towns where people actually see their folks and extended family once a week or more is

the way to go..drive far away from any city above like 30,000 to enroll in such is my plan in the future) ....anyway....since then my 'don't give a flying fig' on stuff has gone up about 20x

....dumb as above my sound...the

alternative to not making it into a nursing home is worse!

So I'm brave as f*ck now on many things.....perspective... it's a bitch.

So the next 20 years or so are gonna be played a bit 'more' fast and loose! Smiley

brad


My plan is to be rich enough to have a private nurse, if needed I'll convert my home to accommodate what ever is necessary for my care.
But in our family, on both sides. not one single person has ever had to go to a nursing home, they were all fit and lived to a high age until they got sick and died pretty quick at hospital.

I was thinking something very similarly in regards to Searing's plans, because many of us already realize some aspects of his situation including some of his bitcoin (and perhaps crypto) preparations, and with something like a 20 year timeline, fuck, someone in anything even close to his situation (to the extent that we even closely understand some approximation of it) should not even be needing to put very much weight into those various kinds of public subsidized solutions - even if it could be a kind of back-up plan in the event bitcoin were to go to zero or some very low valuation at a time that drawing on such funds would be needed.

In other words, seems to me that someone like searing is in a very good situation, and even relative to other people of his same age and even seems as if he is thinking too small.  

Even though I can appreciate ongoing conservatism in the way that finances are treated and considered, especially when involving future performance, projections, but even with all of that, it seems that searing continues to be way too pessimistic and negative and it's like he does not realize that he has transitioned into a kind of richie/fuck you status. It is like he has neither learned how to be richie or how to plan his future in a richie kind of expectation (even though the future is surely not guaranteed).  But, even if the future is not guaranteed, the BTC price prediction models - even treating them conservative as fuck, should likely allow for someone in a similar situation as searing to actually be able to contemplate various private personal care solutions that are not subsidized and are likely going to put him in a way better position than he expects, even if he has to start using those kinds of services way before his 20 year expectations.

Even one more bitcoin cycle.. assuming this cycle peaks around 3 to 16 months from now, then we potentially have some depressing times, there seem to hardly be any evidence to be presuming doom and gloom, so even something conservative like a 2x situation after the next cycle (that would be 4-6 years from now) over today's prices would still put searing in a very well off position - even if he screws up pretty BIGGLY in a few ways (including panic-selling some stash like a screaming little girl).. which I am not going to put it passed him or anyone else, even if they have had a decently good HODL past practice... which I would largely put searing into that dominantly HODLing camp (even if he were to shave off 50% at a weak point and bad time.. still likely to be sitting quite pretty after another cycle.. which is way less than 20 years).

Yahoo dominated by a lot and the rest had very low $ value.
Then, as the internet hype began, they started to re-price even the lowly one's, which was a complete surprise to me. They began trading at multiple billions.
Of course, later google came in and conquered it all.

Great analysis, man. +2 Merit and +2 WO Merit.

The fact that Yahoo dominated by a lot, and later google conquered it all doesn't reassure me, though. What does it imply in terms of crypto? "Yahoo equals Bitcoin" dominates by a lot and in a few years "Google equals Dogecoin" conquers it all?

What's your idea gents?

That surely is part of the fuzziness in Biodom's analysis in trying to draw those kinds of parallels to bitcoin - even though there could be some helpful insights, such analysis remains quite incomplete without attempting to really particularize bitcoin's circumstances as paradigm changing at the protocol level rather than the kinds of innovation that was going on at second layer levels in terms of the kinds of various companies that Biodom was pointing out in the late 90s early 2000s in regards to internet-related innovations and developments.

Yahoo dominated by a lot and the rest had very low $ value.
Then, as the internet hype began, they started to re-price even the lowly one's, which was a complete surprise to me. They began trading at multiple billions.
Of course, later google came in and conquered it all.

Great analysis, man. +2 Merit and +2 WO Merit.

The fact that Yahoo dominated by a lot, and later google conquered it all doesn't reassure me, though. What does it imply in terms of crypto? "Yahoo equals Bitcoin" dominates by a lot and in a few years "Google equals Dogecoin" conquers it all?

What's your idea gents?

The users of yahoo had no money in the game, the users of bitcoin all have money in the game, they had nothing to loose by changing from yahoo to google, bitcoin users have a lot to loose. That's even more true for institutional investors.
I don't think you can compare the two scenarios.

Exactly...

There is a BIG fucking difference when we are talking about a money protocol on the fucking first layer.. never been successfully invented before, versus even what was going on at the internet protocol with very little value at stake in terms of bitcoin's killer app.. se llama money.  Part of the thing that makes bitcoin so god damned amazing in terms of having so many things built into it in regards to money and accounting and then other things that can be built on top of it without having to trust and even people trying to game the system ends u making it stronger.. including shitcoins that imitate it but don't even come close to competing with it while they distract greedy fucks into wanting to get rich quick on the next bitcoin that has about a snowballs chance of happening.. especially with more and more passage of time with bitcoin remaining king and no one really seriously undermining it, in spite of various direct and indirect efforts  - subtle and not so subtle efforts, bitcoin keeps plodding along and absorbing more and more value.. and you better fucking get in it while it is still relatively cheap.  think about 10 years from now when some of the bitcoin naysayers, no coiners, altcoin pumpeners, and the other various skeptics finally come to realize that bitcoin has a wee bit more staying power than they thought and there was a bit more foundational aspects to bitcoin than they thought, and some of us who were suggesting that they just put in 1%, even if they are a skeptic, and they would not listen because they were too smart for their own good with their stupid-ass attempts to analyze bitcoin as if it were a company.. blah blah blah... failing and refusing to either recognize what differentiates bitcoin or at least taking a wee bit of a stake into bitcoin in the even that it might catch on.    Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Bitcoin Doge coin Investors;


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My first thought was that this dude looks like CSW so it took me a while to make sense of this meme. I'm still not sure I can.
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My first thought was that this dude looks like CSW so it took me a while to make sense of this meme. I'm still not sure I can.

Not a good vibe..bitcoin is compared with a possibly plastic surgery transformed T. Cruise (or lookalike)?
Naah.
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The supreme court is a thing? This is the stupidest shit ive heard

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Yeah, the SC did a lot of good there.
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Post it here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5251894.0
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Not about bitcoin (mostly)...Get ready for some popcorn munch.
B. Silbert (the one of the negative GBTC premium fame, lol) declared that he went short doggie coin.
Well, oopsie daisy, but he ($1.66 bil worth) is not a match for Elon (166 bil worth) and the "army" of fans.
Barry is another Melvin, perhaps.
Why bother, anyway?
Maybe i should buy some doggie coin...
...nah, but it would be interesting to watch.

Barry better use more of his funds to prop GBTC instead as the "premium" is deeply negative already.
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Ok kids 4-20 is gone, SNL is over .... it's been fun.

That’s being said you still got time to convert your DOGE to BTC.

Or if you are so attached to “numbers” we got “sats” feel free to help feed yourself.

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Too early ok I will say this tomorrow.
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Looks like quadruple top is forming with very high sell pressure from all the sell orders across the exchanges. This is gonna tank hard soon.

I am not sure what you mean by tank... but I agree that it's going to be hard.

First of all, largely proudhon has repeatedly said what he means by "tank" or whatever variation of nonsense that he has been attention whoring spouting out on a pretty regular basis for the past year or longer.  And, of course, even he has had to continue to move it up because he can still get the same nonsensical sensational effect with BIGGER numbers than what he was needing to use a year ago or so.

In other words, proudhon speaks gobbledy gook that hardly even has much meaning - beyond largely amounting to the opposite what has been happening in bitcoinlandia and likely to continue to happen in bitcoin price performance.

At first, cAPSLOCK, I presumed your use of "hard" to be in the same negative direction, but then as I was typing about pie in the sky proudhon, I realized that your hard could be read as descriptive in either direction, so I decided NOT to presume that you are giving much weight to DOWNity, at least not at our current particular price location.. Oh my, almost too good to be true, even though I hate presuming too much of anything, either. 

Ongoingly, it just seems so weird that there are so many people who are getting more and more exposure to bitcoin and they cannot see where we are at, and yeah, I can see what they are seeing, because I see the same thing.  I look at Bitcoin's price performance chart on the 5 year, for example, and I see what seems to be a 2017 blip and then I see the vast majority of UPpity at the very end of the chart, so ebez bejebez, I can appreciate why so many peeps consider some worries about DCA'ing into this, even though we really do seem to be ongoing and persistent ranging at the top.. which seems to indicate more UPpity, rather than a correction from here.. but whatevers.. we are all going to have to find out and see whether some of the getting into BTC now and at these "seemingly high" prices ends up being the better of the ways forward.

Another thing, I have been kind of working with someone recently, and her bit of radio-silence causes me to speculate that she is likely approaching BTC in a way more timid manner than would be and should be prudent based on the information that I had already discussed with her and she seems to be largely having difficulties in absorbing... even though likely she is taking some BTC stake in current times, I am speculating that it is way too timid, even based on the totality of her own circumstances (to the extent that I understand them to be).
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https://twitter.com/LinaSeiche/status/1391018646290370563

I can't wait 1 sat = 1 $
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My first thought was that this dude looks like CSW so it took me a while to make sense of this meme. I'm still not sure I can.

Not a good vibe..bitcoin is compared with a possibly plastic surgery transformed T. Cruise (or lookalike)?
Naah.

  I didn't realize it was such a stretch.

  The imagine is from Mission Impossible 7; Ethan Hunt represents the hodler with one bitcoin - choo choo motherfuckers.
   One bitcoin = $1,000,000 = 7 digits - is this possible?
   For Ethan Hunt, the hodler with one bitcoin, yes.
   No?

 P.S.  No way Tom Cruise would do plastic surgery.  It's probably grease paint.
 P.P.S Come on suchmoon, CSW?!



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* psycodad goes back to dry shopping on privateislandsonline.com, thinking he might hire a DOGE investor as groundskeeper (they might need a second job soon).

I've been half considering this island:
https://www.privateislandsonline.com/central-america/panama/isla-gallina-panama

I may pull the trigger if I can buy it with 10 BTC.

Very idyllic indeed even so I am peeking into another corner of the world on that website. Currently I can't keep myself from starring at this one, though corn would need to appreciate quite a bit from here to make it feasible:

https://www.privateislandsonline.com/canada/ontario/georgian-bay/the-ridges

But one has to have dreams for 2025, right  Grin

Nice, if Canada still allows private property in 2025.
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* psycodad goes back to dry shopping on privateislandsonline.com, thinking he might hire a DOGE investor as groundskeeper (they might need a second job soon).

I've been half considering this island:
https://www.privateislandsonline.com/central-america/panama/isla-gallina-panama

I may pull the trigger if I can buy it with 10 BTC.

Very idyllic indeed even so I am peeking into another corner of the world on that website. Currently I can't keep myself from starring at this one, though corn would need to appreciate quite a bit from here to make it feasible:

https://www.privateislandsonline.com/canada/ontario/georgian-bay/the-ridges

But one has to have dreams for 2025, right  Grin

Nice, if Canada still allows private property in 2025.

 Keep it down, Elwar!  Trudeau doesn't need any ideas.
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* psycodad goes back to dry shopping on privateislandsonline.com, thinking he might hire a DOGE investor as groundskeeper (they might need a second job soon).

I've been half considering this island:
https://www.privateislandsonline.com/central-america/panama/isla-gallina-panama

I may pull the trigger if I can buy it with 10 BTC.

Very idyllic indeed even so I am peeking into another corner of the world on that website. Currently I can't keep myself from starring at this one, though corn would need to appreciate quite a bit from here to make it feasible:

https://www.privateislandsonline.com/canada/ontario/georgian-bay/the-ridges

But one has to have dreams for 2025, right  Grin

Nice, if Canada still allows private property in 2025.

 Keep it down, Elwar!  Trudeau doesn't need any ideas.


It's been part of the plan since about 2 months before COVID was released. The New Normal that Trudeau warned us about will be part of the Great Reset where they "build back better".

You'll own nothing and be happy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBBxWtKKQiA
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* psycodad goes back to dry shopping on privateislandsonline.com, thinking he might hire a DOGE investor as groundskeeper (they might need a second job soon).

I've been half considering this island:
https://www.privateislandsonline.com/central-america/panama/isla-gallina-panama

I may pull the trigger if I can buy it with 10 BTC.

Very idyllic indeed even so I am peeking into another corner of the world on that website. Currently I can't keep myself from starring at this one, though corn would need to appreciate quite a bit from here to make it feasible:

https://www.privateislandsonline.com/canada/ontario/georgian-bay/the-ridges

But one has to have dreams for 2025, right  Grin

Nice, if Canada still allows private property in 2025.

 Keep it down, Elwar!  Trudeau doesn't need any ideas.


It's been part of the plan since about 2 months before COVID was released. The New Normal that Trudeau warned us about will be part of the Great Reset where they "build back better".

You'll own nothing and be happy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBBxWtKKQiA

 We're in for a dystopian future.  I already hate going to an airport anymore - I think that was also by design.
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* psycodad goes back to dry shopping on privateislandsonline.com, thinking he might hire a DOGE investor as groundskeeper (they might need a second job soon).

I've been half considering this island:
https://www.privateislandsonline.com/central-america/panama/isla-gallina-panama

I may pull the trigger if I can buy it with 10 BTC.

Very idyllic indeed even so I am peeking into another corner of the world on that website. Currently I can't keep myself from starring at this one, though corn would need to appreciate quite a bit from here to make it feasible:

https://www.privateislandsonline.com/canada/ontario/georgian-bay/the-ridges

But one has to have dreams for 2025, right  Grin

Nice, if Canada still allows private property in 2025.

 Keep it down, Elwar!  Trudeau doesn't need any ideas.


It's been part of the plan since about 2 months before COVID was released. The New Normal that Trudeau warned us about will be part of the Great Reset where they "build back better".

You'll own nothing and be happy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBBxWtKKQiA

 We're in for a dystopian future.  I already hate going to an airport anymore - I think that was also by design.


Dude it has been dystopian for a long time.


At least by this definition

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