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October 02, 2021, 07:39:43 PM

Greta Thunberg is a plucky little girl.
And a good publicist along with the help of daddy.
I agree with very little on the climate change agenda.
But have great admiration for young people who have the conviction to stand up for what they believe.
She probably hates on Bitcoin, but likes Uranium and invests in SPUT for her college fund.
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October 02, 2021, 08:39:34 PM

Both North and South Korea have intermittently blasted each other with huge banks of speakers for decades. They stop the speakers when relations are improving, then restart them when relations deteriorate.


https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2020/06/23/asia-pacific/north-korea-seen-reinstalling-border-loudspeakers/

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The two countries have for decades pumped out propaganda from huge banks of speakers as a form of psychological warfare. The South aired a blend of news, Korean pop songs and criticism of the northern regime, while the North blasted the South and praised its own socialist system.

This is a North Korean system.



am i the only one here wondering what pink floyds "wish you were here" and/or "money" would sound like on that stack with an absolutely stupid amount of power driving it? yeah be lo fi for sure but man now its on my bucket list. although i figure the best seat for sound would be about 5 miles away.
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October 02, 2021, 08:55:12 PM

My favorite caster of my favorite RTS game will change his background to the one from my favorite race when BTC reaches 100k. So get on it with it already.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ja9PAMv48FE&ab_channel=Gyle
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October 02, 2021, 08:56:44 PM
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https://twitter.com/100trillionUSD/status/1444228421228417024

On-chain analyses finished tonight: IMO we are midway, no sign of weakness (red) yet. Note color overlay is not months to halving but an on-chain signal. My guess: this 2nd leg of the bull market will have at least 6 more months to go.






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1a/ PlanB said his chart is based on on-chain signals. Perhaps, he's looking at BTC's RVT (Realized Value to Transaction Volume) ratio, which can be used to track BTC's market tops & bottoms & locate what phase BTC is in between these 2 points. RVT ratio has been atypically low.

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1b/ The current RVT ratio is at points that are 1 year away from the cycle peak in the last 2 cycles. If this rhymes, the cycle peak could be at least 6 months away. Note the green line of the chart (RVTS) shows the inverse of RVT ratio.

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1c/ Why is RVT ratio low? This metric is based on BTC's network daily transaction volume & it hasn't climbed on a continuous path as in the 2017 bull phase, but has rolled over during mid-cycle correction. It's reversed course & set a new ATH.

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1d/ Although BTC network daily transaction volume is high, the ratio of realized BTC value to transaction volume has been low.

The RVT ratio is expected to increase going forward righting the course of this metric in a typical BTC bull phase.

Why would BTC peak in Dec 2021?

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2a/ First, we look at the BTC S2F Deflection chart. You can see the symmetry between the current cycle & the past cycles.

The timing of the S2F deflection dips at the mid-cycle correction & low of the CTM Wave 1 in all 3 cycles is in almost perfect alignment.

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2b/ Note the pattern of the BTC S2F deflection in the current cycle looks very similar to that in the 2017 bull phase. In 2017, it took BTC 94 days from the 2nd S2F deflection low (low of CTM Wave 1) to reach cycle peak.

Thus, if history rhymes, BTC may peak around 12/23/21.

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3a/ Finally, we look at the BTC S2FX model fractals. The current S2FX model fractal looks similar to that in past cycles, especially the one in 2013 if we examine the appearance of the latest orange dot & compare this to past cycles.

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3b/  If we overlay the 2013 & 2017 fractals from the appearance of the orange dot to the red dots at cycle peak in the past 2 cycles on the 2021 chart, BTC will also peak in December 2021. Cycle peak price is $200K-$350K.

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4/ Summary:
1. Thanks PlanB for confirming there will be no lengthening of cycle in this BTC epoch.

2. Though PlanB concludes based on on-chain signals the current bull phase has at least 6 more months, I think BTC will peak in December 2021 with peak price around $200K-$350K.
https://twitter.com/AllenAu11/status/1444363363593515008
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October 02, 2021, 09:25:03 PM
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Greta is a little girl that had a school project about climate change and she got some attention so she went with it.

Her life has been hijacked by exploiting adults in the same way that Macaulay Culkin, Michael Jackson, Miley Cirus had their childhoods stolen from them for some big publicity moves by their parents. Not to say they didn't want it but parents should protect their kids from such fame at such a young age.

Now she's talking about all the world needs now is friends. This is a plea from child Greta saying she wants a normal life with regular friends and all the things she was sheltered from. I do not doubt that she will end up like Miley Cirus when she wants to have sex and goes to the extreme ala Madonna to go to the extreme on that as well.

She's a mentally challenged little girl that should not be carted around to international meetings with people asking her opinion on things she does not have the extensive background in other than parrotting the talking points she's being given.

Her speech at the UN should have been the end of it, go to college and grow up and maybe take up the lucrative climate change career afterwards.

I have no hostility for her, just feel bad for her.
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October 02, 2021, 09:38:19 PM
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Greta is a little girl that had a school project about climate change and she got some attention so she went with it.

Her life has been hijacked by exploiting adults in the same way that Macaulay Culkin, Michael Jackson, Miley Cirus had their childhoods stolen from them for some big publicity moves by their parents. Not to say they didn't want it but parents should protect their kids from such fame at such a young age.

Now she's talking about all the world needs now is friends. This is a plea from child Greta saying she wants a normal life with regular friends and all the things she was sheltered from. I do not doubt that she will end up like Miley Cirus when she wants to have sex and goes to the extreme ala Madonna to go to the extreme on that as well.

She's a mentally challenged little girl that should not be carted around to international meetings with people asking her opinion on things she does not have the extensive background in other than parrotting the talking points she's being given.

Her speech at the UN should have been the end of it, go to college and grow up and maybe take up the lucrative climate change career afterwards.

I have no hostility for her, just feel bad for her.

She could also be doing all this because she want a future and not global warming, just a thought. Sometimes the simplest explanation is the correct one.
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October 02, 2021, 09:56:53 PM

China is weak.  The president is a real joke.  Crypto ban ?  What crypto ban.  All Chinese money is on other exchanges, eth mining has barely seen a blip in difficulty change, pools have tunnels with low latency for china from hong kong or elsewhere.  Why ban crypto when you KNOW it'll just show how weak your compliance is.  stupid china.
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October 02, 2021, 09:58:54 PM

“Political correctness” disgusting sometimes.

“Political correctness” is an oxymoron.

There's nothing less correct than politics.

Politics is never correct because to be a successful politician you must appeal to the masses and the masses are mostly morons.

Goddamn... did I just post that?    I'll delete tomorrow when I sober up....

GO BITCOIN

 

You BIG meanie!!!!!!

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I will, tonight, when he's biting the pillow.
Yeah, don’t forget to call him by his real name. Wink

OK. Tonight I'll call him by his nickname of "Ginger Bitch"

If you'd like me to, I can print off your avatar as a mask - rear-facing - and we can engage in roll-play.

Sounds like fun, now that I'm starting to plan things out further, TBH.

You are both unstable and childish little twats.. .but whatever.. Yous do yous.

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Why do you guys diss her?

I often wonder why wo will attack or defend various people.

I feel mostly she is attacked and not sure why you all do it.

I think Greta is a hero, takes a lot of courage to confront politicians the way she do, but when it comes to Bitcoin she has some learning to do.

I don’t want to piss on a young girl’s words from the past but you don’t have much understanding of how the world works if you advocate banning the stuff that keeps us alive in mass numbers.

Let’s kill Africa first. Great slogan.
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October 02, 2021, 10:28:03 PM
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Bearish if we don’t hit atleast $49k..

That's quite a random number.  Or is it?

Seems that you have picked such random number out of your a** that is just short of where we have already gotten within the past 5 hours, which is $48,500.  So you asserted that if we do not make it up to your random number, then the market is bearish - which comes off as nearly pure gibberish.

Seems that the more realistic approach would contain more zoomed-outedness to it.

but yeah..... we had a price correction down to $28,600 in June/July after our $64,895 top in April.

We had a recovery that brought us back up to $53k in early September

And then a crash back down to $39,573 in the past 10 days....

so far we have made it back to $48,500 in the past 5 hours

that is from $44k to $48,500 in the past 24 hours, but within the past 5 hours, we have not been able to get above $48,500... Is there anything to see here, yet?  I am having my doubts.

Seems too soon to call whether the UPpity would be done yet or not.. and if there were to be any kind of urgent need to reach $49k when we have already reached $48.5k, no?

Seems to me that we need a bit more data before coming to any kind of conclusion regarding where we are at and what it means - beyond that there are ongoing UPpity price pressures, and if you believe that we are revisiting $39k, that could be the case, and I am not even sure if that would be bearish, if it were to happen.. but let's see.. let's see.. The weekend is critical.tm

I can very quickly - through the back of my head - make a list with genuine people/accounts in here too.
As for the rest, they have an agenda & vested interests - apart from our common denominator BTC.
To be continued.

Cry more, you little bitch.

Bob he is a lovely guy.

Yes, deep deep deep on the inside, he is lovely so long as he gets his pacifier and no one gives him a keyboard - or would it be an ipad?

The last little peak was just shy of 49..
I want to see this peak break a touch higher than the last peak to feel bullish..
Putting up a lower high feels bearish..
Pretty simple really..

Scientific? No..
But I have been watching these charts for a very long time and feel decently confident in my intuition..

Fair enough that each of us are going to come to our own senses of which kinds of factors are important in terms of both price movements and amount of time to get there.. .including what underlying forces might be contributing to such momentum or lack thereof.

I do consider the territory of $55k-ish to continue to serve as a kind of potential resistance.. yet I consider our current price range between about $36k and $55k to be largely noise and consolidation.. sure I might be wrong about the numbers, but those are my approximate concern numbers at this point (as I type this post - and also including that I already stated my other concerns in my response to you, that you cited).

Do I mean end of the halving bull run? No..
Just that we aren’t done with the bearishness since the last high to 52 ish..

Maybe I am partly concerned about such seemingly willy-nilly ease upon which you seem to want to throw out terms such as bull versus bear..

fuck that bear nonsense..

We have been in a bull run since about April 2019 - and sure we might not have realized it until about May 2019.. and furthermore we have had several "corrections" along the way, but you are not going to find me conceding into either calling those corrections along the way as anything approaching "bear" trends.. because we saw from subsequently BTC behavior that we largely continued in our bullish trajectory since about April 2019.. .so it seems to me to way too confusing and misleading to be describing the correction as bear anythings.. merely because they were corrections and merely because some of them happened to have been BIG and SCARY...



I want/need Bitcoin to moon just as much as anyone else here..

Fair enough.... I might be quibbling with you about semantics then, more than anything.

I hope people are right about it dragging on another 6 months or so instead of peaking within 2021..

There seems to be some decent momentum rationale for that kind of a dragging out of the peak.. but surely we can never really know, even though we have seen that historically when we have had the blow off tops, we have had a decent amount of gradual UPpity that preceded the blow off tops, and furthermore since bitcoin is more mature (meaning broader financial influences and B IGGER players that are attempting to play with its inevitable volatility) that can also justify a dragging out of such a blow off top, too (presuming such a blow off top is actually in the cards)... and surely from my own personally (gut feeling) perspective such a culmination of this particular cycle with an actual blow off top could drag out up to a year from now (kind of the longer of the scenarios that I am willing to consider to be plausible in current conditions)...


I would really rather not sell anything more within this year, but I do plan on taking a little off the top to use some of it and hopefully buy back lower with the rest..
Probably with about 20%, and I’m targeting north of $200k..

Mostly, when I sell, I consider that I might not be able to buy lower, but surely I do understand what you are saying, especially when the BTC price starts moving so damned erratically upwards for such a long time, the whole situation starts to seem to establish that some of us are just so damned far ahead of the game that it becomes somewhat of a low risk to be shaving off some decent amounts of profits with an expectation of having decently high odds of being able to buy back lower.. and even considerably lower.. especially if you are considering executing such plans in a supra $200k arena.. presuming that we might be able to get that high in this particular cycle.
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i remember that. i think it was a safety issue (code issues). so it was a liability if someone got hurt iirc. therefore it was  removed.

still, sucks and shows how ridiculous (some) regulations are.
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i remember that. i think it was a safety issue (code issues). so it was a liability if someone got hurt iirc. therefore it was  removed.

still, sucks and shows how ridiculous (some) regulations are.

Should have put a sign saying "Strictly an art installation. Not to be used as stairs".
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