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Just checked Binance...i can withdraw 2 btc per day still.  I have no verification level at all.  old account though.  has the 0.06 btc limit not been applied ?  If I have fallen through the cracks the nice  Cool

AFAIK it would only apply to new accounts created after the announcement, you should be good Smiley

I think they were going to phase it in over 2 months for exsisting account holders.
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September 12, 2021, 05:29:36 AM

Would really like to see more uppity if I’m honest. Seems a struggle at the moment!

Really?

Yeah, I’d like to see us pushing closer to & probably over 50k right now. If we want a real face melting, blow off top we need to be putting a bottom in close to the current price. Bitcoin looks way over sold, all on chain metrics are pointing to uppity, let’s get going man.

I just looked in my directory trying to figure out if I could call "bitcoin" directly, and since I did not find a listing, I looked under king daddy, honey badger, satoshi nakamoto, and lillie fiend.. still no luck. 

Personally, I cannot find any way to get in touch with bitcoin or any of the pseudonyms that I can think of to make a request for UPpity. 

Probably there is someone better connected than me.. perhaps?  perhaps?   

I was a little shocked that you said something, LFC, because I was thinking that you probably were at least as well, if not better connected than me.. going more or less by our forum registration dates....

In any event, I am pretty sure that publishing our concerns on this thread is probably somewhat helpful because I would imagine anyone who might know someone who knows someone would be participating or at least reading this thread.

In any event, I am glad that you mentioned your concerns (especially the "let's get going man," part), and we were able to just put such concerns out there.   Wink Wink



What price at the next long term bottom as predicted by the blue line?
The chart does not show.
PlanB says (S2F or S2FX?) that 2020-2024 average price would be $100K.

Good point, Biodom.. you whimpy guy...

The kellrobinson squiggly lines projection does appear somewhat less bullish that PlanB's squiggly line projections .. ... and really nothing about the $100k-ish average seems outrageous.. based on current information that we have.. it actually sound reasonably as possible as a variety of other possible BTC price scenarios.
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LFC’s car game go up - New ride.



also a new ride - thanks BTC Cool



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niiiiiice ride also shahzadafzal - which model is this? Grin Cool

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Thanks cygan, this is Audi A4... and coincidently couple of months a apart when I got my car and my first BTC in Sep 2017 Smiley
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Whoaza!!!!!!   That appears to be a pretty BIG drop to around $36k-ish by the end of the year ImThour, and I suppose such a scenario is not completely unreasonable  - even though it does have elements that are seeming to fail/refuse to account for what bitcoin actually is, so in that regard questionableness in the arena of supposed unbiasedness.  

I would consider that part of its possible biasness comes from its showing BTC price performances that only go back to about April 2021.. and thus measuring from right around the $64,895 top in April 2021.. That is a similar kind of mistake that a lot of historical Bitcoin bearish dweebs have made in the past, even though you have couched your prediction in terms of your supposedly being "long-term bullish" (so I am not going to automatically characterize you as a dweeb.. but still starting from the top to make your BTC price prediction remains a wee bit problematic).

Lack of context could cause some biasness, no?   failing/refusing to account for currently valid BTC price prediction models could also create some biasness too no?.   Some of my recent assessments have been that peeps who fail refuse to account for seemingly currently valid BTC price prediction models are failing/refusing to adequately understand bitcoin so we must take these kinds of people with a pretty BIG ASS grain of salt.  Surely, you do not have to believe in such models, but if you are proclaiming to know much of anything about bitcoin you better be accounting for them, including in any assertedly "unbiased" price predictions that you are making.
 
Upon my first glance of your squiggly lines, I did not immediately appreciate the significance of it's starting point.. and I was tentatively concluding that your supposed "unbiased projection" does not negate that we quite likely remain in a bull market nor does it negate the thesis of the $28,600 bottom being in... .. but holy shit.. ImThour, your suggesting $64,895 top for this calendar year does seem that it could very well be negating our current bull market.. and surely seems to be attempting to fail refuse to account for seemingly current BTC price prediction models.. so surely questionable in terms of its supposed unbiasness.

what kinds of odds would you be putting on such a squiggly lines scenario that ONLY starts from looking at BTC's price since April 2021?  greater than 50/50?  

I have been kind of sitting here pondering my own layman's thinking of the topic of BTC's price future and the unknowable nature of it, and I recall that when we went above $46k (about 3-4 weeks ago depending on how such going above $46k was measured), I had considered that the $28,600 bottom being in had gone into the lower 60% and as the BTC price went higher and higher I suppose that I was starting to believe that the $28,600 bottom being in would be more than 65%.. and so you may well be agreeing with me because you are also considering more UPpity from here in the short term until the end of the calendar year but you are also concluding that BTC is going to have an inability to break above $64,895 before the end of the calendar year, even though it looks like your squiggly lines show $64,895 being tested (unsuccessfully this calendar year).  

Also, your squiggly lines are negating my earlier description of a deadman's zone once we get above $55k, which is to suggest that we are NOT likely going to reach unbearable resistance once we get above $55k and not only is the $64,895 ATH going to be breached, but we are quite likely to make it to $80k with out much if any effort (sure perhaps some stalling could happen within that currently theorized deadman's zone.. but likely nothing too substantial nor lasting (at least in my current thinkenings on the matter)..

In any event, your squiggly lines deny the presence of that kind of BTC price dynamics involving a $55k to $80k deadman's zone.. even into the coming 3-4 months when you believe this challenge to a new ATH is going to fail.

Do you have a number of likelihood or just a squiggly lines?  

Are you placing any money on such price prediction?  You must be no?  Perhaps you are planning to sell some BTC on the rise towards $65k that you believe will fail, shorting or putting off some otherwise BTC buys that you would have made in order to prepare for such levels of down (or at least a short term lack of UPpity, no?)?  So preparing for down or a lack of UP should not just be words, right?   There's gotta be some action there in some regards, no?
Otherwise, why waste your time making such BTC price predictions, no?  

Of course, you have also asserted that you are bullish in the long run, yet wouldn't even that kind of assertion be a bit out of touch with how BTC price dynamics have historically worked?  You expect bitcoin to bounce out of cycles and just go into mild and slow UPpity over a longer period?  How would that look?

Do you really believe that bitcoin (in the long run) is really going to be going up in some kind of slow and gradual manner, as if it were some kind of a mature stock?  I am getting the sense that you may well not understand bitcoin very well if you are analyzing bitcoin's possible future UPpity like that.. and really do you give any weight to the currently valid BTC price prediction models?**  Do you know what they are?  Do you understand them?  

**In case you don't know I am referring to: 1) stock to flow, 2) four-year fractal and 3) exponential s-curve adoption based on Metcalfe principles and networking effects.
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@jjg..if you were a little less clownish or middle school type, maybe some people would listen to you more.
As of right now, it's 90% gibberish and 10% insults for everybody else and 90% insults and 10% gibberish for me. Nice.
As far as responding to me, just don't..or continue and make a fool of yourself (as always).
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@jjg..if you were a little less clownish or middle school type, maybe some people would listen to you more.
As of right now, it's 90% gibberish and 10% insults for everybody else and 90% insults and 10% gibberish for me. Nice.
As far as responding to me, just don't..or continue and make a fool of yourself (as always).

Ok.... you are concerned that I have a bias against you because I treat you with more insults and with less gibberish.  You want equal treatment?  50% insults and 50% gibberish?

Or you prefer that I figure out some rational system and treat everyone the same? 

Your proposal would not be practical because everyone is not the same. 

For example, uie poo-ie are your own unique snowflake, Biodom, therefore I have to attempt to tailor my response to you differently from dee other snowflakes  (admit it.. we are all snowflakes.. Everyone say after me.. "I am a snowflake"... Thank you very much for your anticipated cooperation.).



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I just looked in my directory trying to figure out if I could call "bitcoin" directly, and since I did not find a listing, I looked under king daddy, honey badger, satoshi nakamoto, and lillie fiend.. still no luck. 

Personally, I cannot find any way to get in touch with bitcoin or any of the pseudonyms that I can think of to make a request for UPpity. 

Probably there is someone better connected than me.. perhaps?  perhaps?   

I was a little shocked that you said something, LFC, because I was thinking that you probably were at least as well, if not better connected than me.. going more or less by our forum registration dates....

In any event, I am pretty sure that publishing our concerns on this thread is probably somewhat helpful because I would imagine anyone who might know someone who knows someone would be participating or at least reading this thread.


Jay, I’m sorry but I’m going to have to request to speak to the bitcoin CEO. I am not happy with the current service & would like something done about it.
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In any event, your squiggly lines deny the presence of that kind of BTC price dynamics involving a $55k to $80k deadman's zone.. even into the coming 3-4 months when you believe this challenge to a new ATH is going to fail.

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**In case you don't know I am referring to: 1) stock to flow, 2) four-year fractal and 3) exponential s-curve adoption based on Metcalfe principles and networking effects.

I agreed to this point because bitcoin has already recovered from the old point but did not break out also i don't know but wait 3-4 months 
 like to be $80k is storng zone..  Huh
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Not gonna read that a lot and not sure how you have that much time to write something like that in a post, kudos lmao.

Also, you wanna make a bet on your price prediction? (as you asked me to do) Nah, right?

I don't wanna sound negative but the thing is there are opinions. And if you judge people by opinions, you aren't doing it right.
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2 different pic’s of the same location

Perfect location where El D. Takes his quiet times and while BTC doing it’s thing….

So peaceful in here ….

But where is it….

You're right bitcoin can change a lot of things most things don't match the past and the present, If you remember, remember Bitcoin 5 years ago today and see how much Bitcoin is changing today. Bitcoin can be expected to benefit more.
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If these dips are scaring someone or those who are doing the same reverse action of panic selling again then bitcoin is not for your guys.

You see bitcoin dipping from $51k to $45k within few days and paying planks over those steps and became worried whether it will rise or not then you must be ignoring one thing which has depreciated over 70-80% in value from the beginning :



The fiat including USD have depreciated in value so much over all those years and with rising inflation and have not a single chance to go upwards and will be worthless one day due to hyperinflation and government printing more and more money out of thin air to counter such situations but will end up at devastated situation ends.Like we have seen in many countries like Venezuela where you can print big notes also and cannot buy a tissue roll with them.

But on the other side is bitcoin which have 100% chance to grow over these coming years and you will have deflationary assest with you if you can hold on these dips.We might feel agitated sometimes but just remember how much was it in back days and golden period will still come.

Waiting for next $50k boards and ignore any FUD.I am fucking holding my coins.
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