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Question: October Closing Price:
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$59,000-$60,000 - 1 (1.9%)
$60,001-$61,000 - 1 (1.9%)
$61,001-$62,000 - 2 (3.7%)
$62,001-$63,000 - 7 (13%)
$63,001-$64,000 - 6 (11.1%)
$64,001-$65,000 - 4 (7.4%)
$65,001-$66,000 - 3 (5.6%)
$66,001-$67,000 - 2 (3.7%)
$67,001-$68,000 - 1 (1.9%)
>$68,000 - 17 (31.5%)
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There are probably many young people out there in crypto-land (and perhaps not so young) struggling with feelings of 'I don't deserve this' and 'I just got lucky'

I'm here to tell you that you're wrong

A thread...
https://twitter.com/alistairmilne/status/1442441951660453889?s=21


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Imposter syndrome is real, as is low self-esteem, self worth issues, etc.. Many people struggle with giving credit to themselves the first time they 'win'. I know that I did when I sold my first business aged 23.

You've probably been told 'you ain't shit' more than once
https://twitter.com/alistairmilne/status/1442441954768400388?s=21



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The stuff critics say serves to motivate us, but sadly humans tend to absorb the negatives more than the positives and keep hold of them.

So here are some reasons, assuming you didn't lie/scam/cheat/rob anyone, why you *do* deserve your success in crypto, now and going forward

https://twitter.com/alistairmilne/status/1442441956542464005?s=21



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You were open-minded - most people reject crypto out of hand, and have for years despite all the evidence and knowledge freely available.  This immediately puts you into a group of just ~5% of humans on the planet

You were willing to learn about sometihng new when most were not

https://twitter.com/alistairmilne/status/1442441958362910720?s=21



Alistair Milne
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You took a risk - crypto is/was ultra-high risk, and few people have the sort of risk tollerance required to invest something meaningful

You took risks that the vast majority of people would consider reckless, because you believed in the potential of crypto

https://twitter.com/alistairmilne/status/1442441960178917380?s=21



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You figured out what was signal, and what was noise. Ignoring years of mainstream FUD, talking heads like Nouriel, etc.

You learned how to use new tech where any mistake could lose you a significant amount. You were prepared to be your own bank.

https://twitter.com/alistairmilne/status/1442441962116710403?s=21



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Due to the above, you were earlier than some of the 'smartest' money on earth who are now scrambling to get exposure.

So yes, you deserve where you are and what comes next.

WAGMI

https://twitter.com/alistairmilne/status/1442441963979087872?s=21


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(The question is, what will you do with it?)

https://twitter.com/alistairmilne/status/1442441968496353280?s=21






It’s been a pleasure sharing this space with you guys. Here’s to many more years of good health, increasing financial prosperity, opulence, shit posting & memes.













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In fact, the more people there are that believe the S2F model definitely will happen, the more that whale traders will have an incentive to NOT make it happen and do the opposite, fucking over both leveraged longs and shorts, and trying to shake out more weak-handed hodlers.

<snip>

So surely the $million question remains whether bitcoin will still end up springing back to something like the S2F model in spite of strenuous efforts (and a lot of resources) striving to invalidate the S2F model.  I am surely all in agreement with you in terms of identifying that there are some likely high stakes traditional manipulators that feel that they have quite a bit to lose based on bitcoin success and ongoing success so they are willing to NOT pull any punches when dealing with bitcoin manipulation and to throw a lot of resources at such "problems," yet in spite of such spent efforts, what's going to happen?  Will bitcoin revert to something like S2F .. or perhaps S@F gets shifted downwardly on its curve projections a wee bit, but still does not invalidate S2F - beyond appearing that it is invalidated in the short term or even for one or two 4-year cycles and then at some point when we look back at the whole matter instead of doing something like what S2F had projected, we end up having a 1/3 performance level that resembles S2F, but really does not invalidate it beyond the need to shift the price projection curve downward by the necessary amount.

The S2F model is an interesting theoretical model based on looking at past data and projecting the future. But at the end of the day, that's all it is: a projection model. It could end up correct, or it could end up broken at some point.

The problem I'm having is all these noob acolytes treating it like a self-fullfilling prophecy, and a religion. They buy a small piece of bitcoin and sit on it, waiting for their delayed lottery ticket to strike a winner X months down the road, all because some chart has "promised" them that a certain price will come true by a certain date. Like that is a 100% certainty.

What happens when things don't turn out like they were lead to believe? Will they all lose their shit, sell at a loss and become nocoiners again?

We all know that eventually the bitcoin price will rise to new ATHs. It's not a matter of if, but when. Because ongoing money printer go brrr and massive inflation is here to stay. That should be the guide that most investors follow, not some chart projection. It's a long term, lifetime investment.
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There are probably many young people out there in crypto-land (and perhaps not so young) struggling with feelings of 'I don't deserve this' and 'I just got lucky'

I'm here to tell you that you're wrong

A thread...
https://twitter.com/alistairmilne/status/1442441951660453889?s=21


Alistair Milne
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Imposter syndrome is real, as is low self-esteem, self worth issues, etc.. Many people struggle with giving credit to themselves the first time they 'win'. I know that I did when I sold my first business aged 23.

You've probably been told 'you ain't shit' more than once
https://twitter.com/alistairmilne/status/1442441954768400388?s=21



Alistair Milne
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The stuff critics say serves to motivate us, but sadly humans tend to absorb the negatives more than the positives and keep hold of them.

So here are some reasons, assuming you didn't lie/scam/cheat/rob anyone, why you *do* deserve your success in crypto, now and going forward

https://twitter.com/alistairmilne/status/1442441956542464005?s=21



Alistair Milne
@alistairmilne
You were open-minded - most people reject crypto out of hand, and have for years despite all the evidence and knowledge freely available.  This immediately puts you into a group of just ~5% of humans on the planet

You were willing to learn about sometihng new when most were not

https://twitter.com/alistairmilne/status/1442441958362910720?s=21



Alistair Milne
@alistairmilne
You took a risk - crypto is/was ultra-high risk, and few people have the sort of risk tollerance required to invest something meaningful

You took risks that the vast majority of people would consider reckless, because you believed in the potential of crypto

https://twitter.com/alistairmilne/status/1442441960178917380?s=21



Alistair Milne
@alistairmilne
You figured out what was signal, and what was noise. Ignoring years of mainstream FUD, talking heads like Nouriel, etc.

You learned how to use new tech where any mistake could lose you a significant amount. You were prepared to be your own bank.

https://twitter.com/alistairmilne/status/1442441962116710403?s=21



Alistair Milne
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Due to the above, you were earlier than some of the 'smartest' money on earth who are now scrambling to get exposure.

So yes, you deserve where you are and what comes next.

WAGMI

https://twitter.com/alistairmilne/status/1442441963979087872?s=21


Alistair Milne
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(The question is, what will you do with it?)

https://twitter.com/alistairmilne/status/1442441968496353280?s=21






It’s been a pleasure sharing this space with you guys. Here’s to many more years of good health, increasing financial prosperity, opulence, shit posting & memes.





I feel quite the opposite for a few reasons, the lesser reasons being how many people I tried telling about Bitcoin even previous to 2017, how many I told to check out this forum, how many I told that they could suck their GPUs on crypto and make a bit of crypto change (that would now be worth massive amounts)..

And mainly because I did not come upon my crypto by having the privilege of having disposable income to simply buy in with, rather I worked my ass off to stack sats, easily a thousand hours, in multiple ways to gain a few satoshis here and there, from spending many many full days on exchanges watching for trading opportunities, watching multiple exchanges for arbitrage opportunities, watching new coins coming on the market, watching for volume hits preceding pumps, being in with what communities were interested in (or shilling)/where the sentiment was..

I worked my ass off for what meager amount I have been able to accumulate, had the balls to HODL almost everything I have ever been able to accumulate, have been able to resist temptation to sell to buy a house or an expensive car or fancy luxuries I am accustomed to living without, still to this day..

I have absolutely zero sense of “I don’t deserve this”..

Even things I have got “lucky” on weren’t scammy and I feel good about them..
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He was not wearing a mask, and I was not wearing a mask either (I forgot to take it with me, and didn't say anything, out of politeness)... He coughed a few times while in the car with me. I'm vaccinated.

Masks don’t work dude, unless it’s a P100. Why on Earth you would want to use one, is another story.

I'm as anti vax as they come, not just anti COVID vax but anti all vaccines as they have harmful chemicals and you can't sue the company if you are injured by it.

But I think there is some protection provided by masks. Any type of mask, even my cloth mask with purposefully large holes in it so I can breath.

People spit when they talk, they may not notice but when I started paying more attention to it due to COVID I noticed, even seeing a tiny bit fly from my mouth into someone else's when he said something funny. If that's not a surefire way to transfer a virus I don't know what is.

Sure they don't stop your breath and the holes are too big to stop a virus but just to prevent spitting on someone is decent. Though that doesn't mean you need it while out jogging as they do here in Panama. If you're talking face to face with someone it makes sense to have one.

Though I still don't wear one when I don't need to. Though I had COVID and am immune so I won't be spreading it.
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He was not wearing a mask, and I was not wearing a mask either (I forgot to take it with me, and didn't say anything, out of politeness)... He coughed a few times while in the car with me. I'm vaccinated.

Masks don’t work dude, unless it’s a P100. Why on Earth you would want to use one, is another story.

I'm as anti vax as they come, not just anti COVID vax but anti all vaccines as they have harmful chemicals and you can't sue the company if you are injured by it.

But I think there is some protection provided by masks. Any type of mask, even my cloth mask with purposefully large holes in it so I can breath.

People spit when they talk, they may not notice but when I started paying more attention to it due to COVID I noticed, even seeing a tiny bit fly from my mouth into someone else's when he said something funny. If that's not a surefire way to transfer a virus I don't know what is.

Sure they don't stop your breath and the holes are too big to stop a virus but just to prevent spitting on someone is decent. Though that doesn't mean you need it while out jogging as they do here in Panama. If you're talking face to face with someone it makes sense to have one.

Though I still don't wear one when I don't need to. Though I had COVID and am immune so I won't be spreading it.

I agree on the mask comments. Anything you put in front of your mouth helps. Even the palm of your hand. It's no coincidence that most of us have a habit of covering our mouth when we cough. We learned this from our parents, and it helps. The thing is, when we speak (much more when we cough), tiny droplets come out of our mouth, like little projectiles. Putting even a piece of cloth in front of our mouth will slow them down, to the point of not reaching very far, thus lowering the chance of infecting the other person. It's like putting your hand or a piece of cloth in front of a water hose. Water will still come out, but won't reach very far.

Also, it's a myth that mask mesh should be finer than the size of the virus. Even a coarser mask mesh can contain the virus, because it tends to stick to the threads of the mesh (even more so, if it's multi-layered), thus not easily reaching the other side, if at all.

As for vax vs. antivax, I think we're all on the same side, it's wrong to fight each other as if one is the enemy of the other. We're all trying to fight this as best we can, some trust the vaccines, others don't. But fighting each other is bad for both, and may even benefit the real enemies in all this.
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He was not wearing a mask, and I was not wearing a mask either (I forgot to take it with me, and didn't say anything, out of politeness)... He coughed a few times while in the car with me. I'm vaccinated.

Masks don’t work dude, unless it’s a P100. Why on Earth you would want to use one, is another story.

I'm as anti vax as they come, not just anti COVID vax but anti all vaccines as they have harmful chemicals and you can't sue the company if you are injured by it.

But I think there is some protection provided by masks. Any type of mask, even my cloth mask with purposefully large holes in it so I can breath.

People spit when they talk, they may not notice but when I started paying more attention to it due to COVID I noticed, even seeing a tiny bit fly from my mouth into someone else's when he said something funny. If that's not a surefire way to transfer a virus I don't know what is.

Sure they don't stop your breath and the holes are too big to stop a virus but just to prevent spitting on someone is decent. Though that doesn't mean you need it while out jogging as they do here in Panama. If you're talking face to face with someone it makes sense to have one.

Though I still don't wear one when I don't need to. Though I had COVID and am immune so I won't be spreading it.
Mask lol

Most of the victims of the Spanish flu post WWI died of bacterial pneumonia from wearing face masks!



No scientific evidence to this day a person infecting another person. If someone is sick its from own wrongdoing/lifestyle.
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He was not wearing a mask, and I was not wearing a mask either (I forgot to take it with me, and didn't say anything, out of politeness)... He coughed a few times while in the car with me. I'm vaccinated.

Masks don’t work dude, unless it’s a P100. Why on Earth you would want to use one, is another story.

I'm as anti vax as they come, not just anti COVID vax but anti all vaccines as they have harmful chemicals and you can't sue the company if you are injured by it.

But I think there is some protection provided by masks. Any type of mask, even my cloth mask with purposefully large holes in it so I can breath.

People spit when they talk, they may not notice but when I started paying more attention to it due to COVID I noticed, even seeing a tiny bit fly from my mouth into someone else's when he said something funny. If that's not a surefire way to transfer a virus I don't know what is.

Sure they don't stop your breath and the holes are too big to stop a virus but just to prevent spitting on someone is decent. Though that doesn't mean you need it while out jogging as they do here in Panama. If you're talking face to face with someone it makes sense to have one.

Though I still don't wear one when I don't need to. Though I had COVID and am immune so I won't be spreading it.

No scientific evidence to this day a person infecting another person. If someone is sick its from own wrongdoing/lifestyle.


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example: if you cannot understand the formulas of general theory of relativity, it does not mean that such theory does not exist OR the events predicted by such theory don't exist as well.

burn those books, baby,..burn them...the earth is flat /s
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For fucks sake someone start a COVID/VACCINE thread
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For fucks sake someone start a COVID/VACCINE thread

are you referring to the chartbuddy, lol
apart from alistaire milner's and bob's lightning threads, i don't see much bitcoin content.
care to provide some?

here is my contribution (in form of references):

100K in october?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/billybambrough/2021/09/27/crypto-price-prediction-100000-per-bitcoin-could-come-even-sooner-than-you-think-with-ethereum-leading-the-way/

Alts are "cooked"
https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-breaking-new-highs-in-q4-will-temporarily-turn-alts-to-dust-analyst

Cool visuals of bitcoin development:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/pwfee1/12_years_of_bitcoin_development_in_60_seconds/
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For fucks sake someone start a COVID/VACCINE thread

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5294239.0;topicseen

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5335545.0
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There are probably many young people out there in crypto-land (and perhaps not so young) struggling with feelings of 'I don't deserve this' and 'I just got lucky'

I'm here to tell you that you're wrong

A thread...
https://twitter.com/alistairmilne/status/1442441951660453889?s=21


Alistair Milne
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Imposter syndrome is real, as is low self-esteem, self worth issues, etc.. Many people struggle with giving credit to themselves the first time they 'win'. I know that I did when I sold my first business aged 23.

You've probably been told 'you ain't shit' more than once
https://twitter.com/alistairmilne/status/1442441954768400388?s=21



Alistair Milne
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The stuff critics say serves to motivate us, but sadly humans tend to absorb the negatives more than the positives and keep hold of them.

So here are some reasons, assuming you didn't lie/scam/cheat/rob anyone, why you *do* deserve your success in crypto, now and going forward

https://twitter.com/alistairmilne/status/1442441956542464005?s=21



Alistair Milne
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You were open-minded - most people reject crypto out of hand, and have for years despite all the evidence and knowledge freely available.  This immediately puts you into a group of just ~5% of humans on the planet

You were willing to learn about sometihng new when most were not

https://twitter.com/alistairmilne/status/1442441958362910720?s=21



Alistair Milne
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You took a risk - crypto is/was ultra-high risk, and few people have the sort of risk tollerance required to invest something meaningful

You took risks that the vast majority of people would consider reckless, because you believed in the potential of crypto

https://twitter.com/alistairmilne/status/1442441960178917380?s=21



Alistair Milne
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You figured out what was signal, and what was noise. Ignoring years of mainstream FUD, talking heads like Nouriel, etc.

You learned how to use new tech where any mistake could lose you a significant amount. You were prepared to be your own bank.

https://twitter.com/alistairmilne/status/1442441962116710403?s=21



Alistair Milne
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Due to the above, you were earlier than some of the 'smartest' money on earth who are now scrambling to get exposure.

So yes, you deserve where you are and what comes next.

WAGMI

https://twitter.com/alistairmilne/status/1442441963979087872?s=21


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(The question is, what will you do with it?)

https://twitter.com/alistairmilne/status/1442441968496353280?s=21






It’s been a pleasure sharing this space with you guys. Here’s to many more years of good health, increasing financial prosperity, opulence, shit posting & memes.





I feel quite the opposite for a few reasons, the lesser reasons being how many people I tried telling about Bitcoin even previous to 2017, how many I told to check out this forum, how many I told that they could suck their GPUs on crypto and make a bit of crypto change (that would now be worth massive amounts)..

And mainly because I did not come upon my crypto by having the privilege of having disposable income to simply buy in with, rather I worked my ass off to stack sats, easily a thousand hours, in multiple ways to gain a few satoshis here and there, from spending many many full days on exchanges watching for trading opportunities, watching multiple exchanges for arbitrage opportunities, watching new coins coming on the market, watching for volume hits preceding pumps, being in with what communities were interested in (or shilling)/where the sentiment was..

I worked my ass off for what meager amount I have been able to accumulate, had the balls to HODL almost everything I have ever been able to accumulate, have been able to resist temptation to sell to buy a house or an expensive car or fancy luxuries I am accustomed to living without, still to this day..

I have absolutely zero sense of “I don’t deserve this”..

Even things I have got “lucky” on weren’t scammy and I feel good about them..

Respect man, this is what strong hands mean...  Cool
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I feel quite the opposite for a few reasons, the lesser reasons being how many people I tried telling about Bitcoin even previous to 2017, how many I told to check out this forum, how many I told that they could suck their GPUs on crypto and make a bit of crypto change (that would now be worth massive amounts)..

And mainly because I did not come upon my crypto by having the privilege of having disposable income to simply buy in with, rather I worked my ass off to stack sats, easily a thousand hours, in multiple ways to gain a few satoshis here and there, from spending many many full days on exchanges watching for trading opportunities, watching multiple exchanges for arbitrage opportunities, watching new coins coming on the market, watching for volume hits preceding pumps, being in with what communities were interested in (or shilling)/where the sentiment was..

I worked my ass off for what meager amount I have been able to accumulate, had the balls to HODL almost everything I have ever been able to accumulate, have been able to resist temptation to sell to buy a house or an expensive car or fancy luxuries I am accustomed to living without, still to this day..

I have absolutely zero sense of “I don’t deserve this”..

Even things I have got “lucky” on weren’t scammy and I feel good about them..

@LFC..cheers.
@eddie13 completely agree, but still feeling lucky.
I could have ignored it in 2013 as I did ignore the Wired article (that I read) in Nov 2011.
Also got lucky in a sense that in 2013 my "spidy/toady" senses told me to ignore MtGox and some others, etc, etc.
Have some battle scars, of course, but who doesn't.
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He was not wearing a mask, and I was not wearing a mask either (I forgot to take it with me, and didn't say anything, out of politeness)... He coughed a few times while in the car with me. I'm vaccinated.

Masks don’t work dude, unless it’s a P100. Why on Earth you would want to use one, is another story.

I'm as anti vax as they come, not just anti COVID vax but anti all vaccines as they have harmful chemicals and you can't sue the company if you are injured by it.

But I think there is some protection provided by masks. Any type of mask, even my cloth mask with purposefully large holes in it so I can breath.

People spit when they talk, they may not notice but when I started paying more attention to it due to COVID I noticed, even seeing a tiny bit fly from my mouth into someone else's when he said something funny. If that's not a surefire way to transfer a virus I don't know what is.

Sure they don't stop your breath and the holes are too big to stop a virus but just to prevent spitting on someone is decent. Though that doesn't mean you need it while out jogging as they do here in Panama. If you're talking face to face with someone it makes sense to have one.

Though I still don't wear one when I don't need to. Though I had COVID and am immune so I won't be spreading it.
Mask lol

Most of the victims of the Spanish flu post WWI died of bacterial pneumonia from wearing face masks!



No scientific evidence to this day a person infecting another person. If someone is sick its from own wrongdoing/lifestyle.


I've given you Tash 1 merit for being the thickest fucking cunt on this forum.

Every other post on the Vaccine Wall Observer whether pro or anti vaccination have provided well reasoned arguments but your post is pure crass stupidity.
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I have absolutely zero sense of “I don’t deserve this”..

Yeah, it's certainly not about us here...  Cool
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