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"Trust the science", they say?

Well "the science" shows that a vaxxed and an unvaxxed person can carry and spread the CV19 virus equally just as well. And a vaxxed person can still contract the virus at a later point. In fact, there is a very good chance that a vaxxed person would likely contract the virus from another vaxxed "asymptomatic carrier" around them, who is more likely to break social distancing rules because of a false sense of trust and supposed minimal symptoms.

So if they feel protected, I'm still left wondering why the vaxxed care so fkn much about what the unvaxxed do again?

I've even seen a vaccinated person who claims to understand "the science" take a step back from someone who said "I had Covid, but I'm fine now because I have natural immunity!" Talk about fkn delusional behavior.
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"Trust the science", they say?

Well "the science" shows that a vaxxed and an unvaxxed person can carry and spread the CV19 virus equally just as well. And a vaxxed person can still contract the virus at a later point. In fact, there is a very good chance that a vaxxed person would likely contract the virus from another vaxxed "asymptomatic carrier" around them, who is more likely to break social distancing rules because of a false sense of trust and supposed minimal symptoms.

So if they feel protected, I'm still left wondering why the vaxxed care so fkn much about what the unvaxxed do again?

I've even seen a vaccinated person who claims to understand "the science" take a step back from someone who said "I had Covid, but I'm fine now because I have natural immunity!" Talk about fkn delusional behavior.

Pupils in here schools are tested three times a week. Positive pupils are home-quarantined if they are not vaxxed, the vaxxed ones are returning to their classrooms.
By all means of science. What is telling you this? In essence: SARS-CoV-2 is no more something to be afraid of, it's something "we" (they) want (us) to have. With such high infection rates as with the Delta variant, mutation is mandatory, as well as if the vaccines keep 90% (decreasing over time) from severe symptoms, there will be a wave of fatalities mostly among unvaccinated, followed by a wave of vaccinated deads, because the spreading and mutation will finally be over 10x as high as of past times, with most cases low- or asymtomatic.

EDIT: Let that sink in: The politicians that tell us they want to avoid another lockdown at all cost are basically driving us into the next one, with the help of their vaccination campaign. Sane minds still seem to be rare.
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"Trust the science", they say?

Well "the science" shows that a vaxxed and an unvaxxed person can carry and spread the CV19 virus equally just as well. And a vaxxed person can still contract the virus at a later point. In fact, there is a very good chance that a vaxxed person would likely contract the virus from another vaxxed "asymptomatic carrier" around them, who is more likely to break social distancing rules because of a false sense of trust and supposed minimal symptoms.

So if they feel protected, I'm still left wondering why the vaxxed care so fkn much about what the unvaxxed do again?

I've even seen a vaccinated person who claims to understand "the science" take a step back from someone who said "I had Covid, but I'm fine now because I have natural immunity!" Talk about fkn delusional behavior.

Pupils in here schools are tested three times a week. Positive pupils are home-quarantined if they are not vaxxed, the vaxxed ones are returning to their classrooms.
By all means of science. What is telling you this? In essence: SARS-CoV-2 is no more something to be afraid of, it's something "we" (they) want (us) to have. With such high infection rates as with the Delta variant, mutation is mandatory, as well as if the vaccines keep 90% (decreasing over time) from severe symptoms, there will be a wave of fatalities mostly among unvaccinated, followed by a wave of vaccinated deads, because the spreading and mutation will finally be over 10x as high as of past times, with most cases low- or asymtomatic.

... this is the best case scenario
... a worse scenario is if the experiment goes badly and previously low-risk groups (like majority of fit, healthy, happy people under 50) have had their immune systems attenuated by the vaccines in such a way that they are now more vulnerable to coronavirus then start getting seriously ill in much higher numbers when the vaccines wane around 6-8 months after dosing ...
... the apocalyptic scenario is the virus mutates under evolutionary pressure from the population-wide vaccine strategy into a beast that cannot be tamed as it evolves faster than vaccine variant iterations can keep up ... and ADE as evidenced from all previous attempts to develop coronavirus vaccines shows up when artificial immunity wanes
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Who could have thought so many woers/bitcoiners are in fact antivaxxers? Guys you do sound like you're from the 19th century. Science gave us BTC and so it gave us vaccines. No need to be afraid of science. Most of the poor antivaxxer guys have been brainwashed by the youtube videos and questionable news sites. Lots of people are going to die because of this.  Sad

Yes there are side effects. Every vaccine has them. Thrombosys, myocarditis etc all are extremely rare. Like really really rare 3 people out of 1 million. Vaccines are like that - somebody's child (or parent) will die a painful death. But billions will be protected from the virus. It's the price we have to pay...    Cool

Because the more you know the better you understand the risks.

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/study-finds-most-highly-educated-americans-are-also-most-vaccine-hesitant
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Seems like some serious stress building within WO.

Nah, I think it's just much needed catharsis for some. I get it. I am the clear outlier of the family, and am well prepared for violent opposition, when it comes to a difference of opinion.

All I can do is state my case, based on best information I have available to me, and walk away to continue living my life if people disagree with me, or find what I have to say as going against their programming.

Very sad times.

It's the classic problem of leading a horse to a stream, but being unable to get it to drink the fucking water.

Stupid animals, I'll tell you hwat...

Have you resolved the land dispute yet?

Or are the lawyers eating funds faster than your ranch.

Back of my mind you had 0.4 acres each to give take by drawing a line down the middle or equivalent swap and shaking hands.

Your considerable investment shows you'll be there a while, even if the guy is a fucking retard try to be neighborly.  
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Have you resolved the land dispute yet?

Survey company should have the documents ready for us to proceed with the case next week. It's taking much longer to resolve than I'd like, but we can't rush anything, given the formal nature of the dispute. We're looking good to win, and legitimately have a case for the Sherriff to come out if need-be.

It's causing me a tremendous amount of aggravation, but construction continues regardless.

Or are the lawyers eating funds faster than your ranch.

No. Lawyer is pretty chilled out, and wanting us to get the property built out ASAP, so he has a nice long range to shoot his .50 Cal at.
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PARIS — Calling American and Australian behavior “unacceptable between allies and partners,” France announced on Friday that it was recalling its ambassadors to both countries in protest over President Biden’s decision to provide nuclear-powered submarines to Australia.

It was the first time in the history of the long alliance between France and the United States, dating back to 1778, that a French ambassador has been recalled to Paris in this way for consultations. The decision by President Emmanuel Macron reflects the extent of French outrage at what it has a called a “brutal” American decision and a “stab in the back” from Australia.

But why would France care so much? Does this adversely affect their military standing on the world stage?

Australia on Wednesday canceled a $66 billion agreement to purchase French-built, conventionally powered submarines, hours before the deal with Washington and London was announced.

Oh, money, grift, corruption and pork.

Of course.
What hurt them most is (apart from losing contract) there was no formal discussion on deal cancellation and Australia notified them just before the announcement, like 1 hour or so lol. Literally no one see that coming even Australian ministers.

The French as part of the EEC did not care when quotas for exports from Australia to Great Britain, a major trading partner were imposed when GB joined the EEC. Australia took a blow, and a lesson and now concentrates on trade in Asia.

European defense policy is in disarray meanwhile People’s Liberation Army Navy has 6 nuclear subs, 50+ conventional and rapidly increasing spending. Australia require the latest and best to help balance power in the region.

I believe India has one nuclear sub with 3 more to follow, all designed and built there.
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Have you resolved the land dispute yet?

Survey company should have the documents ready for us to proceed with the case next week. It's taking much longer to resolve than I'd like, but we can't rush anything, given the formal nature of the dispute. We're looking good to win, and legitimately have a case for the Sherriff to come out if need-be.

It's causing me a tremendous amount of aggravation, but construction continues regardless.

Or are the lawyers eating funds faster than your ranch.

No. Lawyer is pretty chilled out, and wanting us to get the property built out ASAP, so he has a nice long range to shoot his .50 Cal at.


Haha I like that, and your lawyer will be happy, its great to have space for a range.

No doubt your neighbor will hate you in an inter generational feud.

hope your recovery is complete soon.
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Who could have thought so many woers/bitcoiners are in fact antivaxxers? Guys you do sound like you're from the 19th century. Science gave us BTC and so it gave us vaccines. No need to be afraid of science. Most of the poor antivaxxer guys have been brainwashed by the youtube videos and questionable news sites. Lots of people are going to die because of this.  Sad

Yes there are side effects. Every vaccine has them. Thrombosys, myocarditis etc all are extremely rare. Like really really rare 3 people out of 1 million. Vaccines are like that - somebody's child (or parent) will die a painful death. But billions will be protected from the virus. It's the price we have to pay...    Cool

Because the more you know the better you understand the risks.

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/study-finds-most-highly-educated-americans-are-also-most-vaccine-hesitant

You nailed it. I have to memorize this for future discussion.


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Have you resolved the land dispute yet?

Survey company should have the documents ready for us to proceed with the case next week. It's taking much longer to resolve than I'd like, but we can't rush anything, given the formal nature of the dispute. We're looking good to win, and legitimately have a case for the Sherriff to come out if need-be.

It's causing me a tremendous amount of aggravation, but construction continues regardless.

Or are the lawyers eating funds faster than your ranch.

No. Lawyer is pretty chilled out, and wanting us to get the property built out ASAP, so he has a nice long range to shoot his .50 Cal at.


Haha I like that, and your lawyer will be happy, its great to have space for a range.

No doubt your neighbor will hate you in an inter generational feud.

hope your recovery is complete soon.

The Neighbor?
I don't think so.
Too far away, i guess.
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Who could have thought so many woers/bitcoiners are in fact antivaxxers? Guys you do sound like you're from the 19th century.

Really? What is the definition for vaccination in the 21st century?

https://twitter.com/RepThomasMassie/status/1435606845926871041
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"Trust the science", they say?

Well "the science" shows that a vaxxed and an unvaxxed person can carry and spread the CV19 virus equally just as well. And a vaxxed person can still contract the virus at a later point. In fact, there is a very good chance that a vaxxed person would likely contract the virus from another vaxxed "asymptomatic carrier" around them, who is more likely to break social distancing rules because of a false sense of trust and supposed minimal symptoms.

So if they feel protected, I'm still left wondering why the vaxxed care so fkn much about what the unvaxxed do again?

I've even seen a vaccinated person who claims to understand "the science" take a step back from someone who said "I had Covid, but I'm fine now because I have natural immunity!" Talk about fkn delusional behavior.

Pupils in here schools are tested three times a week. Positive pupils are home-quarantined if they are not vaxxed, the vaxxed ones are returning to their classrooms.
By all means of science. What is telling you this? In essence: SARS-CoV-2 is no more something to be afraid of, it's something "we" (they) want (us) to have. With such high infection rates as with the Delta variant, mutation is mandatory, as well as if the vaccines keep 90% (decreasing over time) from severe symptoms, there will be a wave of fatalities mostly among unvaccinated, followed by a wave of vaccinated deads, because the spreading and mutation will finally be over 10x as high as of past times, with most cases low- or asymtomatic.

... this is the best case scenario
... a worse scenario is if the experiment goes badly and previously low-risk groups (like majority of fit, healthy, happy people under 50) have had their immune systems attenuated by the vaccines in such a way that they are now more vulnerable to coronavirus then start getting seriously ill in much higher numbers when the vaccines wane around 6-8 months after dosing ...
... the apocalyptic scenario is the virus mutates under evolutionary pressure from the population-wide vaccine strategy into a beast that cannot be tamed as it evolves faster than vaccine variant iterations can keep up ... and ADE as evidenced from all previous attempts to develop coronavirus vaccines shows up when artificial immunity wanes

ADE are a hot topic, pretty unlikely, though - says current research.
I am waiting for the results of the trials for the vaccine to be inhaled. it's expected to build up antibodies in the upper respiratory tract, which would minimize oral spreading and shorten the duration of (low- or asymptomatic) CoV infection.

EDIT: #hodlsleep.
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Really? What is the definition for vaccination in the 21st century?

https://twitter.com/RepThomasMassie/status/1435606845926871041

Yes, language evolves along with new scientific developments.
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Who could have thought so many woers/bitcoiners are in fact antivaxxers? Guys you do sound like you're from the 19th century. Science gave us BTC and so it gave us vaccines. No need to be afraid of science. Most of the poor antivaxxer guys have been brainwashed by the youtube videos and questionable news sites. Lots of people are going to die because of this.  Sad

Big difference. The government never peddled Bitcoin down my throat and said I can't do this or can't do that if I don't get Bitcoin.

Yes there are side effects. Every vaccine has them. Thrombosys, myocarditis etc all are extremely rare. Like really really rare 3 people out of 1 million. Vaccines are like that - somebody's child (or parent) will die a painful death. But billions will be protected from the virus. It's the price we have to pay...    Cool

Yes, that's right but the story isn't so simple when you consider government actions:
Over here in the UK, the committee on vaccination in fact did not advise vaccinating young teenagers because of the rare cases of myocarditis. Astra Zeneca is out of the question because of side effects on women especially, so it had to be Pfizer.
Even after the lack of advice the government health advisor said they will be going ahead with vaccinating young teenagers regardless. BUT, they will only be given 1 shot, even though we have come to accept that "fully vaccinated" means 2. Because 2 shots in teenagers in fact DOES increase risk of myocarditis far, far more.
So what is then the point of the single shot one has to wonder? Children are not going to be "fully vaccinated" in the UK and since Covid deaths are virtually non existent in that age group what is then the real reason to give them the single shot?

In fact this chart seems to indicate that deaths with single shot Covid vaccines were HIGHER than those without during certain times in the UK!


(source: https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/articles/coronaviruscovid19latestinsights/deaths)
Doesn't this sound even the slightest bit worry-some to you?!

The chart further indicates that death rate per 100,000 is ultra low in the summer regardless of vaccine status. Just like from flu. In fact Covid hardly made it into the top 10 reasons for deaths for most of the summer over here. I think there was one week it got to number 9.
Again, this raises questions about the necessity of vaccinations in healthy and especially young people.

I was all for vaccines in people who need them, until they became an instrument for controlling people, dividing them and fucking injecting them into people who don't need them at all!

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It's shame vaccination are being forced, no freedom to choose...

https://www.health.gov.au/resources/publications/covid-19-vaccination-mandatory-vaccination-of-residential-aged-care-workers

Sleep well, eat well, physical exercise, wash your hands regularly, always wear a mask outside, take few supplement to strengthen your immunity (i.e. zinc, vitamin C, vitamin D) it helps you to fight with this freaking virus.
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"Trust the science", they say?

Well "the science" shows that a vaxxed and an unvaxxed person can carry and spread the CV19 virus equally just as well. And a vaxxed person can still contract the virus at a later point. In fact, there is a very good chance that a vaxxed person would likely contract the virus from another vaxxed "asymptomatic carrier" around them, who is more likely to break social distancing rules because of a false sense of trust and supposed minimal symptoms.

So if they feel protected, I'm still left wondering why the vaxxed care so fkn much about what the unvaxxed do again?

I've even seen a vaccinated person who claims to understand "the science" take a step back from someone who said "I had Covid, but I'm fine now because I have natural immunity!" Talk about fkn delusional behavior.

Pupils in here schools are tested three times a week. Positive pupils are home-quarantined if they are not vaxxed, the vaxxed ones are returning to their classrooms.
By all means of science. What is telling you this? In essence: SARS-CoV-2 is no more something to be afraid of, it's something "we" (they) want (us) to have. With such high infection rates as with the Delta variant, mutation is mandatory, as well as if the vaccines keep 90% (decreasing over time) from severe symptoms, there will be a wave of fatalities mostly among unvaccinated, followed by a wave of vaccinated deads, because the spreading and mutation will finally be over 10x as high as of past times, with most cases low- or asymtomatic.

EDIT: Let that sink in: The politicians that tell us they want to avoid another lockdown at all cost are basically driving us into the next one, with the help of their vaccination campaign. Sane minds still seem to be rare.

Sorry, i did not get that first paragraph at all.
In a very complex situation where there are both vaxxed and non-vaxxed and also those who had the virus "naturally" projections are difficult.

My take would be that sooner or later everyone would have the "natural" covid IF the virus changes toward higher particle production (as Delta already did).
In this situation having either a prior strain infection OR vaccine should be beneficial.
If, however, there was no prior vaccination OR infection, Delta could be quite heavy.

One thing, but just my personal opinion: if I ever get a boost, I would prefer it to be conventional (protein-based) vaccine...just in case.
I am not concerned about RNA per se, but have a slight worry about producing antibodies against RNA (for reasons that are a bit too complex to discuss here).
I know that they took measures to greatly diminish that chance, but with serial vaccinations..who knows.
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