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Has anyone else noticed how low the mempool is... block sizes are small as well.
I am opening LN channels for 1SAT/vByte.

I really need to get back into Lightning again.

Running an Umbrel node that I'm super happy with, but just haven't had the incentive or desire to play with Lightning again - Too much other stuff going on in my life sorta thing.

Half debating surveying for natural gas deposits around 2025'ish on segments of our ranch, and see if I can't start doing some of that waste-emission-based mining with some of the new offerings available.

I mean, we'll have at least 50kWh of Solar available to us, but not enough to run a serious mining op - Will be entirely dedicated to powering the ranch/home needs.

Anyway, back to playing FFVIX I guess... Sorta kinda having a love/hate relationship with that game getting a Summoner up to level 73 so far...

Good to see you back Bob. I was scanning some LN nodes, and one was called SilientBob... I was thinking it might have been you!

Anyhow, fire up the LN Rig and join this LN train... Might want to update it to the latest version to make sure you have all the latest protections for off chain recovery.

Quick recap: 14 Active Channels. Capacity: 17,700,000 SAT, made a few minor mistakes, such as opening with low quality peers, but we all have to start somewhere. Biggest channel is with a merchant providing liquidity in El Salvador, which was one of the reasons i had undertaken this LN project. Routed 4 Payments so far... Earned 4 SAT... Smiley

Only one WO member messaged me so far.. I want to create a 5 node Pentagon Channel with 2M SAT in each channel, will balance once all 5 channels are open so we have liquidity of 1M SAT on both sides. Looking for another 3 more....

cAPSLOCK? elwar? Bob???
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If we follow this logic everything the government says is lie?

lol @ this strawman

Not everything. Just ignore what they say and make up your own mind. You have a fully functioning brain right? Oh wait you think this Coronavirus is dangerous ... (or do you also classify the seasonal flu as dangerous because then you are at least consistent).

Advice: Start with some critical thinking. Generally quite helpful in life.

FFS, Mr Grammar Nazi, google the meaning of antivaxxer. Your statement is something like: "the grass is not green because it is". IQ below 10.  Grin

The word vaccination and deratives of it do not contain an x and certainly not 2 consecutively (does any word in the English language?). Anyway carry on. Appearently this word is for those that self identify as sheep, similarly to a pronoun. GL with life, you'll need it.
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Creating a private one now!

EDIT: Done! Let me know if you are in and i'll PM you the link and password
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So ... the protected need protection from the unprotected by forcing the unprotected to take the protection that doesn't protect the protected?

This from the people who used to call me stupid?

Yes, because the unprotected are filling up the hospital beds and people that need other procedures are being delayed. Not to mention the fact that no vaccine is 100% effective. Get the population to 90% vaccinated and this nightmare goes away.

But what shall we do with the 10% left not vaccinated? Even 1% is dangerous. They will be clear and present danger for the vaccinated. Yellow stars and concentration camps?... So, get your ass prepared for booster jabs every 6 months for the rest of your life!


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So ... the protected need protection from the unprotected by forcing the unprotected to take the protection that doesn't protect the protected?

This from the people who used to call me stupid?

Yes, because the unprotected are filling up the hospital beds and people that need other procedures are being delayed. Not to mention the fact that no vaccine is 100% effective. Get the population to 90% vaccinated and this nightmare goes away.

But what shall we do with the 10% left not vaccinated? Even 1% is dangerous. They will be clear and present danger for the vaccinated. Yellow stars and concentration camps?... So, get your ass prepared for booster jabs every 6 months for the rest of your life!




Herd Immunity....
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But what shall we do with the 10% left not vaccinated? Even 1% is dangerous. They will be clear and present danger for the vaccinated. Yellow stars and concentration camps?... So, get your ass prepared for booster jabs every 6 months for the rest of your life!

That's not how infectious diseases work. There's a tipping point. When enough people are immunized (surviving the infection or getting a vaccine), the infection becomes contained. Bob survived the infection, he should not be compelled to get an additional vaccine.
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FFS, Mr Grammar Nazi, google the meaning of antivaxxer. Your statement is something like: "the grass is not green because it is". IQ below 10.  Grin

So ... the protected need protection from the unprotected by forcing the unprotected to take the protection that doesn't protect the protected?

This from the people who used to call me stupid?

Vaccines DO protect you. They protect you from serious symptoms and death.  Cool
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Everyone should chose for there own, taking a vaccine or not taking it…

Agree with everything you said except this sentence. Vaccines only work if they help us reach herd immunity. If we'll have 30-40% of population vaccinated what are we going to achieve? Nothing, just 30-40% peeps more or less protected from the virus. Reaching 80-90% will most likely stop the spread completely. At least we'll be talking about some local hot spots not a pandemic.  Cool
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FFS, Mr Grammar Nazi, google the meaning of antivaxxer. Your statement is something like: "the grass is not green because it is". IQ below 10.  Grin

So ... the protected need protection from the unprotected by forcing the unprotected to take the protection that doesn't protect the protected?

This from the people who used to call me stupid?

Vaccines DO protect you. They protect you from serious symptoms and death.  Cool

If this is true why the vaccinated must be protected from the unvaccinated?
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So ... the protected need protection from the unprotected by forcing the unprotected to take the protection that doesn't protect the protected?

This from the people who used to call me stupid?

Yes, because the unprotected are filling up the hospital beds and people that need other procedures are being delayed. Not to mention the fact that no vaccine is 100% effective. Get the population to 90% vaccinated and this nightmare goes away.

But what shall we do with the 10% left not vaccinated? Even 1% is dangerous. They will be clear and present danger for the vaccinated. Yellow stars and concentration camps?... So, get your ass prepared for booster jabs every 6 months for the rest of your life!


Infectologists (and I tend to trust the pros not some random conspiracy theorists) claim this is the last big wave we're facing now. In spring next year the virus will most likely: 1. disappear or 2. transform into some sort of a seasonal flu or 3. will be present in some regions not globally so stop being a pandemic.

But before that happens Delta will get most of you unvaccinated friends and death toll will be huge (4.55 million right now prolly not enough to make you change your mind and start treating it seriously.  Cool
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If we follow this logic everything the government says is lie?

lol @ this strawman

Not everything. Just ignore what they say and make up your own mind. You have a fully functioning brain right? Oh wait you think this Coronavirus is dangerous ... (or do you also classify the seasonal flu as dangerous because then you are at least consistent).

Advice: Start with some critical thinking. Generally quite helpful in life.

FFS, Mr Grammar Nazi, google the meaning of antivaxxer. Your statement is something like: "the grass is not green because it is". IQ below 10.  Grin

The word vaccination and deratives of it do not contain an x and certainly not 2 consecutively (does any word in the English language?). Anyway carry on. Appearently this word is for those that self identify as sheep, similarly to a pronoun. GL with life, you'll need it.

Look, this is hilarious! Where are you from? Year 2019? I can think of only two possibilities you know so little about this virus and stuff:

1. you were in a coma for 2 years
2. you're a fucking time traveler

Out of curiosity: could you please provide like 2-3 news sources you're using? (don't ask why I need that those Bill Gates's nano-robots in my blood told me to do it as I'm currently close to a 5G tower and they can transmit)  Grin Hope you're wearing your tinfoil hat right?  Grin
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So ... the protected need protection from the unprotected by forcing the unprotected to take the protection that doesn't protect the protected?

This from the people who used to call me stupid?

Yes, because the unprotected are filling up the hospital beds and people that need other procedures are being delayed. Not to mention the fact that no vaccine is 100% effective. Get the population to 90% vaccinated and this nightmare goes away.

But what shall we do with the 10% left not vaccinated? Even 1% is dangerous. They will be clear and present danger for the vaccinated. Yellow stars and concentration camps?... So, get your ass prepared for booster jabs every 6 months for the rest of your life!


Infectologists (and I tend to trust the pros not some random conspiracy theorists) claim this is the last big wave we're facing now. In spring next year the virus will most likely: 1. disappear or 2. transform into some sort of a seasonal flu or 3. will be present in some regions not globally so stop being a pandemic.

But before that happens Delta will get most of you unvaccinated friends and death toll will be huge (4.55 million right now prolly not enough to make you change your mind and start treating it seriously.  Cool

You simplify matters and this is where I think there is danger in just blindly injecting this stuff into youngsters without evidence this will not harm them in the slightest long term.

A huge death toll would be in the vaccinated people as it already is in many western countries.

This table below (UK numbers again) supports your theory that vaccines work to prevent death in lower age groups, however it clearly shows that the largest groups of people dying are in the high age groups (as it always has been with Covid) even whilst they are vaccinated. On the basis of that table you would have to conclude the vaccine is only 50% effective at preventing death. It is not a magical cure.

Since death is so very unlikely in young age groups I still doubt the need for the vaccines. Certainly those under 20.
Note that this table does not show underlying conditions, which has been a major factor in deaths with Covid.

I'm fully for vaccinating those over 50 or 60 and those with underlying conditions or those who have a BMI over 30. But outside of these categories there just doesn't seem to be the evidence that any possible risk from a vaccine that was developed quickly is less important to consider than just taking a chance with Covid and most likely just letting your immune system deal with it naturally as it has done successfully for AT LEAST 98.3% of the population of the world so far.



Another caveat in the figures is the way we register deaths in the UK from Covid; 28 days within testing positive or it's mentioned on the death certificate. I would say that allows for quite a large margin to inflate the figures. You can easily test positive but die from something else within a month, certainly in the elderly.

Now you may retaliate with again suggesting herd immunity. Again this is only theory.
Just blindly injecting this stuff into the entire population just to prove that theory regardless of possible long term health side effects in youngsters seems a bit mad to me.

Note that this booster talk is actually just people getting a third dose of the same thing WITHIN a year.
Again that seems a bit mad also.

Considering that the vast majority of the people who have to endure Covid restrictions (work vaccine passports, lockdowns, miss work, school, entertainment etc) are in fact those at least risk the whole governments' dealing with Covid can certainly be brought into question.

If you constantly just blindly follow what a government says and wants I am very surprised to see why you'd be in Bitcoin at all to be honest.
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If we follow this logic everything the government says is lie?

lol @ this strawman

Not everything. Just ignore what they say and make up your own mind. You have a fully functioning brain right? Oh wait you think this Coronavirus is dangerous ... (or do you also classify the seasonal flu as dangerous because then you are at least consistent).

Advice: Start with some critical thinking. Generally quite helpful in life.

FFS, Mr Grammar Nazi, google the meaning of antivaxxer. Your statement is something like: "the grass is not green because it is". IQ below 10.  Grin

The word vaccination and deratives of it do not contain an x and certainly not 2 consecutively (does any word in the English language?). Anyway carry on. Appearently this word is for those that self identify as sheep, similarly to a pronoun. GL with life, you'll need it.

Look, this is hilarious! Where are you from? Year 2019? I can think of only two possibilities you know so little about this virus and stuff:

1. you were in a coma for 2 years
2. you're a fucking time traveler

Out of curiosity: could you please provide like 2-3 news sources you're using? (don't ask why I need that those Bill Gates's nano-robots in my blood told me to do it as I'm currently close to a 5G tower and they can transmit)  Grin Hope you're wearing your tinfoil hat right?  Grin

hhahaha! My 5G reception/connection is still fucking crap!

Sometimes is better to not argue with people who don't have an opened mind. Just smile and nod your head and move on..

you can through out all sorts of stats, like...

Current delta outbreak here in Sydney AU: 46,151 locally acquired cases and 241 deaths... of which over 90% where not vaccinated...
"Super Spreader" event, 30 People at a party, 24 infected with COVID, 6 not infected....  and of those 6, all were vaccinated.

But they will just find ways to twist and make up a different narratives, like it was FAKE NEWS!

anyhow i didn't really want to get involved in this argument...

Still need WO guys to join this WO LN Hub.. and my NFT is still for sale!
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Note that this booster talk is actually just people getting a third dose of the same thing WITHIN a year.

Actually, the so called booster jabs aren't boosting anything. They are just patches (much like a software patch) for the side effects caused by the last jab. Patch after patch after patch. This is the future for the lab rats. Have fun being mad scientists' toys!
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Breaker, breaker! CQ CQ. WO calling CAROLINA. QSL.

WORLD urgently needs some serious non-ant corn UPpity (at least supra-$60k), to restore WORLD peace.
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Look, this is hilarious! Where are you from? Year 2019? I can think of only two possibilities you know so little about this virus and stuff:

1. you were in a coma for 2 years
2. you're a fucking time traveler

Out of curiosity: could you please provide like 2-3 news sources you're using? (don't ask why I need that those Bill Gates's nano-robots in my blood told me to do it as I'm currently close to a 5G tower and they can transmit)  Grin Hope you're wearing your tinfoil hat right?  Grin

Look at this imbecile with his strawmans and his literal belief of state media. Equating people not believing the propaganda concerning covid-19 and the imbecility you are sprouting above actually is part of the propaganda (discrediting discenters by equating them with idiots) so proves my point: you believe everything your masters tell you. You are a serf, a pleb, someone who is not does not fall for these elementary tricks.

Sources? Just look at the data (even the padded official ones show enough if you actually look) and analyze, it's not rocket science but I'm sure its above your pay check.

Again: why are you on this forum? It's for those that value freedom, for truth-seekers. Not retards like you who think they are smart for worshipping your overlords.

I'm done with you. There are better uses of my time than talking to a wall (this response is a courtesy to others, not you).
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