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[GreekGeek]

The overwhelming majority of the world can't afford Apple or thinks those who advocate their products are nincompoops. It's a bit of fraying tinsel on a system that is not engaging with the world at large.

+1

[gentlemand]

The exact words that came to mind when i saw the TV ad for applepay were "ooohhhh fuck this'll kill bitcoin for sure" ... sorry folks but people in the billions will flock to that type of service as will all of the merchants ... it's just easier to use a phone based prepaid account using the phone you already have and the currency you already have than to bother fucking with all the ridiculous by comparison hassles of buying/storing/spending bitcoin ...

I'm sorry if it's complicated for you. Just to add another layer of complication: not everyone owns an Iphone. And its competitor PayPal is offering the option of filling up with Bitcoin.

The overwhelming majority of the world can't afford Apple or thinks those who advocate their products are nincompoops. It's a bit of fraying tinsel on a system that is not engaging with the world at large.

Except if they eventually let you fill up with Bitcoin. Then it is the greatest thing ever.

If that transpires I will still regard Apple fans as silly sausages, but I'll be pleased anyway.

[Fatman3001]

The overwhelming majority of the world can't afford Apple or thinks those who advocate their products are nincompoops. It's a bit of fraying tinsel on a system that is not engaging with the world at large.

+1

Well, that is their main competitors search engine.

I get the feeling that people without an Iphone are more hung up on its role as a status symbol than those who own one.

[YourMother]

The overwhelming majority of the world can't afford Apple or thinks those who advocate their products are nincompoops. It's a bit of fraying tinsel on a system that is not engaging with the world at large.

+1

Edit: No, i´m not spanish...

[Fatman3001]

The exact words that came to mind when i saw the TV ad for applepay were "ooohhhh fuck this'll kill bitcoin for sure" ... sorry folks but people in the billions will flock to that type of service as will all of the merchants ... it's just easier to use a phone based prepaid account using the phone you already have and the currency you already have than to bother fucking with all the ridiculous by comparison hassles of buying/storing/spending bitcoin ...

I'm sorry if it's complicated for you. Just to add another layer of complication: not everyone owns an Iphone. And its competitor PayPal is offering the option of filling up with Bitcoin.

The overwhelming majority of the world can't afford Apple or thinks those who advocate their products are nincompoops. It's a bit of fraying tinsel on a system that is not engaging with the world at large.

Except if they eventually let you fill up with Bitcoin. Then it is the greatest thing ever.

If that transpires I will still regard Apple fans as silly sausages, but I'll be pleased anyway.

Would you seriously recommend anything else for your sister, cousin, parents, grandparents?

[jeffhuys]

The overwhelming majority of the world can't afford Apple or thinks those who advocate their products are nincompoops. It's a bit of fraying tinsel on a system that is not engaging with the world at large.

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When will the endless barrage of crap stop? People are capable of making their own decisions.

By the way:

[marcus_of_augustus]

lowbrow...idiots...lazy and stupid...

A regular libertarian charmer, this one. 

truth surrounding money is often far from charming ... usually quite ugly.

[gentlemand]

I get the feeling that people without an Iphone are more hung up on its role as a status symbol than those who own one.

I think it's more down to the bizarro smugness of their owners than their desirability. There are plenty of other phones that cost just as much.

[gentlemand]

Would you seriously recommend anything else for your sister, cousin, parents, grandparents?

You bet. Anything cheap that works. There's a big old choice.

[jeffhuys]

I get the feeling that people without an Iphone are more hung up on its role as a status symbol than those who own one.

I think it's more down to the bizarro smugness of their owners than their desirability. There are plenty of other phones that cost just as much.

Have you ever met someone (and I don't mean online) who owns an iPhone?
All I ever hear is people calling iPhone owners smug, but in my opinion it's the Android owners that are smug! 

[gentlemand]

I get the feeling that people without an Iphone are more hung up on its role as a status symbol than those who own one.

I think it's more down to the bizarro smugness of their owners than their desirability. There are plenty of other phones that cost just as much.

Have you ever met someone (and I don't mean online) who owns an iPhone?
All I ever hear is people calling iPhone owners smug, but in my opinion it's the Android owners that are smug! 

Yes. They were pleased with their choices and I applaud it. I didn't applaud spending ten minutes listening to them trying to convert me. I'm a neither person at the moment.

[Fatman3001]

Would you seriously recommend anything else for your sister, cousin, parents, grandparents?

You bet. Anything cheap that works. There's a big old choice.

.... Except it doesn't work. I can make it work, you can make it work. But the people who asks us... they need an Iphone.

[ChartBuddy]

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[tabnloz]

Tonight I have met a Danish guy who explained me in Denmark everybody uses MobilePay which is basically like Bitcoin but easier to use. We are doomed.

Denmark has been busy cutting interest rates to devalue the kroner (to keep with the peg to Euro). While they can print as much local currency as they wish, their economy & balance sheet cannot handle the expansions in the same way the EU or US can. Good chance they will have to depeg like the Swiss have done. So, in that sense bitcoin isn't doomed in Denmark, however as a convenient option, local, small app based banking products are winning the race.

[jeffhuys]

I get the feeling that people without an Iphone are more hung up on its role as a status symbol than those who own one.

I think it's more down to the bizarro smugness of their owners than their desirability. There are plenty of other phones that cost just as much.

Have you ever met someone (and I don't mean online) who owns an iPhone?
All I ever hear is people calling iPhone owners smug, but in my opinion it's the Android owners that are smug! 

Yes. They were pleased with their choices and I applaud it. I didn't applaud spending ten minutes listening to them trying to convert me. I'm a neither person at the moment.

Same thing with Android fans (over here, anyways). Everytime my phone is a bit slow, or acting weird when I'm showing it to someone, they're like "LOL Apple.". I mean, sure sometimes it's a bit slow, but this phone is a very old one now and I've seen more Androids lag than iPhones.
Besides, if I see an Android lag, I don't try to make fun of the operating system or whatever. What's the point? If you want to buy a smartphone at the cheapest price possible, go ahead. If you want an expensive one but still an Android, go ahead. If you want an iPhone, go ahead. Nobody's stopping you.

You shouldn't get shit just for having a certain kind of phone.



Back on topic: we're at 233USD right now. Will a correction follow or is 233 the new 238?

[gentlemand]

Would you seriously recommend anything else for your sister, cousin, parents, grandparents?

You bet. Anything cheap that works. There's a big old choice.

.... Except it doesn't work. I can make it work, you can make it work. But the people who asks us... they need an Iphone.

For the relative luddite on a budget there is...

whisper it...

W****** Phone 8

[Fatman3001]

I get the feeling that people without an Iphone are more hung up on its role as a status symbol than those who own one.

I think it's more down to the bizarro smugness of their owners than their desirability. There are plenty of other phones that cost just as much.

Have you ever met someone (and I don't mean online) who owns an iPhone?
All I ever hear is people calling iPhone owners smug, but in my opinion it's the Android owners that are smug! 

Yes. They were pleased with their choices and I applaud it. I didn't applaud spending ten minutes listening to them trying to convert me. I'm a neither person at the moment.

Which means you're supporting Darth Vader and The Evil Empire. People who bitch about apple now are either children or amnesiacs. It was reeeeaaally crappy when we were forced to deal with Microsoft products.

[gentlemand]

I get the feeling that people without an Iphone are more hung up on its role as a status symbol than those who own one.

I think it's more down to the bizarro smugness of their owners than their desirability. There are plenty of other phones that cost just as much.

Have you ever met someone (and I don't mean online) who owns an iPhone?
All I ever hear is people calling iPhone owners smug, but in my opinion it's the Android owners that are smug! 

Yes. They were pleased with their choices and I applaud it. I didn't applaud spending ten minutes listening to them trying to convert me. I'm a neither person at the moment.

Which means you're supporting Darth Vader and The Evil Empire. People who bitch about apple now are either children or amnesiacs. It was reeeeaaally crappy when we were forced to deal with Microsoft products.

These days I'm a 10 yr old Nokia person.

[Fatman3001]

Would you seriously recommend anything else for your sister, cousin, parents, grandparents?

You bet. Anything cheap that works. There's a big old choice.

.... Except it doesn't work. I can make it work, you can make it work. But the people who asks us... they need an Iphone.

For the relative luddite on a budget there is...

whisper it...

W****** Phone 8

A friend of my wife bought a Nokia with Windows a while ago after I recommended Iphone. She changed to Iphone after six months. When I asked her about it she just answered: cheapskates pay twice. In fact, the Android phone I use now I got for free from someone who bought an Iphone after just 2 months. Come to think of it, I haven't bought a phone myself since Iphone arrived on the market.

[12345mm]

The exact words that came to mind when i saw the TV ad for applepay were "ooohhhh fuck this'll kill bitcoin for sure" ... sorry folks but people in the billions will flock to that type of service as will all of the merchants ... it's just easier to use a phone based prepaid account using the phone you already have and the currency you already have than to bother fucking with all the ridiculous by comparison hassles of buying/storing/spending bitcoin ...

I'm sorry if it's complicated for you. Just to add another layer of complication: not everyone owns an Iphone. And its competitor PayPal is offering the option of filling up with Bitcoin.

The overwhelming majority of the world can't afford Apple or thinks those who advocate their products are nincompoops. It's a bit of fraying tinsel on a system that is not engaging with the world at large.

im a tech savvy genius level person and capable of using bitcoin (obviously) and it is so totally and completely obviously complicated *versus* a simple prepaid phone based payment app it's laughable ... and i recognize the fact that most people will choose the path of least resistance ... which is the latter of the options between bitcoin and applepay style service ... note *type of service* is what i said ... as in ... for example ... an app similar to applepay that works on all smartphones is what i see as a likely next step if apple refuses to put out their applepay app to all other platforms other than ios ... bonus points for the app that automatically converts your prepaid balance into whatever the local currency is via geo location ... also you do know apple sold like 100 million *new* iphones last Q right ? as in like 100X as many iphones sold as people who possess any amount of bitcoin ? thats in 1 Q and thats the brand shiny new expensive 6th gen ones ... that's not counting all the previous gen ones already out there ... at this point it's like what ? every 10th person on earth has an iphone ... everyone else is either living in the dark ages or has a different brand smartphone with a small minority of the developed world still using their shitty old cellphones ... even most poor people can afford a used smartphone for $30 ... apple or not smart phones are nearly ubiquitous and an applepay style app will be available to everyone ... come to think of it a used iphone is a lot cheaper than any device capable of receiving storing and transmitting bitcoin ... hmmm ...