Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion

[BlindMayorBitcorn]

Just out for a Sunday morning troll are we?

[itod]

Last few pages is just Chart Buddy posting to itself!

It's called "resetting the indicators", big movers putting the bots out of the way on the next big move, otherwise the bots may react too soon. This will and as 10%+ up/down move soon, just wait and see.

[inca]

I think what this price stability shows is that none of the vocal bears on here have enough coins to even push us down a single dollar.


edit: wall at 262 eaten.

[BlindMayorBitcorn]

I think what this price stability shows is that none of the vocal bears on here have enough coins to even push us down a single dollar.

I think they call it 'reloading'

[Dump3er]

I think what this price stability shows is that none of the vocal bears on here have enough coins to even push us down a single dollar.


edit: wall at 262 eaten.

[billyjoeallen]

I have very reasonable bids on 22 coins with no bear takers.What gives? Where's my weekend discount?

[BullTardLogic]

I have very reasonable bids on 22 coins with no bear takers.What gives? Where's my weekend discount?

http://www.hitmanforum.com/uploads/default/918/e94152c2d4e3d535.png

[macsga]

*snip*
LambTroll stuff

It was the same for us regulars back in 2013 (August-September). Then we went boom. What can I say? You're a special case, that's for sure. Starting a new account just to post the same trolling stuff? Looks like an automated process. Are you a bot? And if you are, can you please tell me... do you dream of electric sheep?

Thanks

[ChartBuddy]

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[12345mm]

kicking a dead horse becomes less fun when you get past the ribcage and have maggots all over your shoes ... anyone can see the dwindling volume and increasing gaps of time with 0 sells and 0 buys occurring across all the exchanges ... punctuated by the occasional obvious sudden short lived out of the blue pump (mostly done with desperate borrowed money / possibly done by the unregulated exchanges themselves with non-existent money ... yay fractional reserves ! ... gox2.0 in the making) ... if the daily mined coins were all sold on market each day , it'd pummel the price to single digits in a matter of months at best given global orderbook depth (and kill the mining business in the process) so we have to assume a lot of coins are being built up in miner reserves or sold off-book ... so you just know there's tons of coin piling up waiting to be dumped , either by miners or off-book buyers ... the market seems to be aware of this and is in a perpetual "waiting for the hammer to drop" mode ... current exchange value of ~$260 x 3600 coins per day x 365 days a year = $341,640,000 of *new money* required to consume supply and maintain price at where it is today , nevermind making the price actually go up ... and this assumes 0 selling by any of the heavyweight whales with 10s or 100s of thousands of coin ... do you think we'll get 1/3+ of a billion dollars in new money spent on btc this year (not VC on startups , 1/3+ of a billion $ on coins alone) and that no whales will liquidate any % of their stash ? ... yay math !

[itod]

kicking a dead horse becomes less fun when you get past the ribcage and have maggots all over your shoes ... anyone can see the dwindling volume and increasing gaps of time with 0 sells and 0 buys occurring across all the exchanges ... punctuated by the occasional obvious sudden short lived out of the blue pump (mostly done with desperate borrowed money / possibly done by the unregulated exchanges themselves with non-existent money ... yay fractional reserves ! ... gox2.0 in the making) ... if the daily mined coins were all sold on market each day , it'd pummel the price to single digits in a matter of months at best given global orderbook depth (and kill the mining business in the process) so we have to assume a lot of coins are being built up in miner reserves or sold off-book ... so you just know there's tons of coin piling up waiting to be dumped , either by miners or off-book buyers ... the market seems to be aware of this and is in a perpetual "waiting for the hammer to drop" mode ... current exchange value of ~$260 x 3600 coins per day x 365 days a year = $341,640,000 of *new money* required to consume supply and maintain price at where it is today , nevermind making the price actually go up ... and this assumes 0 selling by any of the heavyweight whales with 10s or 100s of thousands of coin ... do you think we'll get 1/3+ of a billion dollars in new money spent on btc this year (not VC on startups , 1/3+ of a billion $ on coins alone) and that no whales will liquidate any % of their stash ? ... yay math !

There's a concept of dividing your thoughts into paragraphs, to be easier to digest for the reader. Although in case of your rumblings I doubt it would make a difference.

[Spaceman_Spiff]

In fact, I think that the desire for "permanent wealth", that cannot be lost or lose its value, is as naive as the desire for eternal youth or eternal life...

How is the desire for eternal youth naive?

Before airplanes were built, it would be easy to call the desire for human flight naive, especially given the stupid first attempts (people attaching wings to their arms and jumping off buildings).  A real discussion should entail the feasibility or impossibility of something based on its properties, not just "it's something people have been wanting since forever, and they haven't accomplished it yet, therefore it is impossible and a stupid idea".

I am very curious as to your objections why eternal youthfulness would not one day (probably far into the future) be feasible.

[tarmi]

usd swaps going up again.   so some bull hoarded all the cheap swaps (0.1 %) and unloaded the expensive ones (0.14%).

but the problem is that to push this to 275 bulls will need additional milion or two. even if we touch it bears will short this like mofos, bulls will just borrow more money for nothing. they will just overextend themselves.

so good luck to them.

few weeks ago I said that 24 mil will be needed to break 300. I was wrong.

[ChartBuddy]

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[L0uis]

1 hour BBands narrowing.... that means it's gonna happen soon^tm

[SilenceOfTheLamb]

In fact, I think that the desire for "permanent wealth", that cannot be lost or lose its value, is as naive as the desire for eternal youth or eternal life...

How is the desire for eternal youth naive?
...

Totally not naive.  If we define "youth" as egotism + absurd expectations through lack of education & stupidity, this thread is already there!
Excelsior!

*Good morning, gentlemen.

[YourMother]

[JorgeStolfi]

I am very curious as to your objections why eternal youthfulness would not one day (probably far into the future) be feasible.

Natural evolution does not "want" eternal organisms, not even eternal species; it "wants" life to constantly evolve.

Death is a feature, not a bug.  It evolved in the last billion years together with sex and reproduction, as a way to clear up space for new individuals.

Maybe one day that "solution" will no longer be necessary, because we will have infinitely expandable space and resources for everyone to live forever.  But the fact is that humans inherited death from their ancestors, and have evolved their body and society around it.

Everything in our body and mind was designed and adapted by evolution assuming a finite life of ~80 years plus or minus 20 (rough guesses).  Total planned obsolescence.

Human lifespan has evolved to be among the longest among mammals, actually, because that was needed by our nature and life cycle: a bigger brain takes much longer to program, so we need 14-20 years of learning before we are ready to leave our family and start a new one.

And we live for many years after we are no longer needed as parents, because we still have some use as teachers, babysitters, sentinels, etc..

Aging is the decomissioning of body and mind parts that are not intended to be used beyond a certain stage in life.  Our very desires and values change, because we are meant to have different roles in society at each stage in life.  

If we were to live forever, we could not be the same humans as we are today, we would have to change our body and mind and become something quite different.

If a dinosaur could wish for eternal life, would it want to evolve to a monkey, or to be an eternal dinosaur?

Does a child of five really wish to become an adult? Or just do the things that only adults can do, while remaining a child?

[12345mm]

it's also arguable whether or not time exists , or is simply a human derived concept ... some theoretical physicists have proposed that time as we experience it may simply be the dissipation of heat , or put more simply , entropy playing itself out ... if this is the case , it becomes a matter of learning how to re-wind entropy at the scale of cells ... which would require a large amount of energy and nano-tech , of course ... as i understand it , you'd basically have to continually re-build damaged cells and re-organize those cells into tighter together more youthful groupings thus continually re-building all macro scale physical systems of the body ... a difficult task , to be sure ... and even this wouldn't assure immortality , even if it greatly extended life ... decapitation or immolation , for example , would be hard to fix fast enough and probably still result in death of the body ...

[empowering]

I am very curious as to your objections why eternal youthfulness would not one day (probably far into the future) be feasible.

Natural evolution does not "want" eternal organisms, not even eternal species; it "wants" life to constantly evolve.

Death is a feature, not a bug.  It evolved in the last billion years together with sex and reproduction, as a way to clear up space for new individuals.

Maybe one day that "solution" will no longer be necessary, because we will have infinitely expandable space and resources for everyone to live forever.  But the fact is that humans inherited death from their ancestors, and have evolved their body and society around it.

Everything in our body and mind was designed and adapted by evolution assuming a finite life of ~80 years plus or minus 20 (rough guesses).  Total planned obsolescence.

Human lifespan has evolved to be among the longest among mammals, actually, because that was needed by our nature and life cycle: a bigger brain takes much longer to program, so we need 14-20 years of learning before we are ready to leave our family and start a new one.

And we live for many years after we are no longer needed as parents, because we still have some use as teachers, babysitters, sentinels, etc..

Aging is the decomissioning of body and mind parts that are not intended to be used beyond a certain stage in life.  Our very desires and values change, because we are meant to have different roles in society at each stage in life.  

If we were to live forever, we could not be the same humans as we are today, we would have to change our body and mind and become something quite different.

If a dinosaur could wish for eternal life, would it want to evolve to a monkey, or to be an eternal dinosaur?

Does a child of five really wish to become an adult? Or just do the things that only adults can do, while remaining a child?

 

Life "extension" is coming,  and not too far away.

Aubrey de Grey: A roadmap to end aging: https://youtu.be/8iYpxRXlboQ