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[SilenceOfTheLamb]

Always in bad taste to linger too long & overstay one's welcome. Besides, your grandkids have already bought you a nice plot.

Oh the irony..

You missed the point.  Of course a surgeon's scalpel is unwelcome to a boil, and penicillin is unwanted by the syphilis spirochete.
The doctor must weigh the feelings of boil/spirochete against the general wellbeing of his patient.  It's a choice.

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[inca]

7 billion mofos on the planet and "eternal life desirable for society?".
U w0t m8?
I think it might even be possible eventually, but definitely not desirable IMHO. Fuck no.

You just indicated yourself that even without eternal life, overpopulation is/ is going to be an issue.Maybe if we know we are going to stay around forever, we'll actually have a strong incentive to figure out a solution for overpopulation.

Anyone not expecting life extension technology to become available in the future is being rather shortsighted.

Ask any old man, say Warren Buffet, if they could trade all their wealth for their youth they would in a heartbeat.

More interesting to me is simulating the human brain. Lots of great Scifi written on that.

[macsga]

7 billion mofos on the planet and "eternal life desirable for society?".
U w0t m8?




I think it might even be possible eventually, but definitely not desirable IMHO. Fuck no.


By the way, some species ARE immortal:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMOkXkw5TKc

Fact is, there is probably no stopping it.

Besides, having driven across several continents, I can confirm there is more than enough room and empty space.  We just need to be more civilised and become better at using resources.

*Slightly* off topic, but this is the global trend here on this wall, so please allow me to express myself:

1. Aging is nothing but degradation of our DNA information via replication of our cells. We happen to age every single second, mind you. When the DNA chain reaches the end, due to the disability of our mechanism to reproduce its cells without errors, we have the telomerase that is nothing more than Poly-A chains to eliminate the duplication errors. During our lifespan, those chains are getting shorter and shorter while the duplication reproduces more "errors" due to lack of them.

TL;DR: More Telomerase = More life.

2. What is life? What is the difference from your life and mine for example? The answer is simple. It's our memories. Memories are stored into our brains via biologic synapses which (in essence) are not very good way to store information. But this is what we got. I presume it won't be hard for next gen (quantum? ) computers to be able to "store" the memories of a person inside their "hard drive". The tech is already here - we now know what our brainwaves look like when we ie: move our hands, that's how scientists are able to produce bionic legs and hands and the person who "wears" them is able to control them via their brains.

3. Evolution NEEDS immortality (or if you prefer infinite lifespan). It's the way that we humans can evolve to better beings and develop our "next" versions. This is feasible right now (in theory) via several ways. I'd say we're in infancy regarding the tech we need to "make it happen" but "we know it's there".

Question is: Will we be here to see it happen? Or some redneck will "press the button" and "restart" the engine? It would be so pity.

[podyx]

This is the calm before the storm, gentlemen.

[coinmaster222]

This is the calm before the storm, gentlemen.

As I said before this is the drop before the huge rise

[inca]

Always in bad taste to linger too long & overstay one's welcome. Besides, your grandkids have already bought you a nice plot.

Oh the irony..

You missed the point.  Of course a surgeon's scalpel is unwelcome to a boil, and penicillin is unwanted by the syphilis spirochete.
The doctor must weigh the feelings of boil/spirochete against the general wellbeing of his patient.  It's a choice.

I think you missed the point NotLambChop.

In any case, believing technology which could benefit the privileged few will not be developed to preserve the well being of the many is silly. No individual will choose not to have life extension technology, instead they will actively pursue it.

[Wekkel]

This is the calm before the storm, gentlemen.

As I said before this is the drop before the huge rise

I am waiting.

[inca]

7 billion mofos on the planet and "eternal life desirable for society?".
U w0t m8?




I think it might even be possible eventually, but definitely not desirable IMHO. Fuck no.


By the way, some species ARE immortal:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMOkXkw5TKc

Fact is, there is probably no stopping it.

Besides, having driven across several continents, I can confirm there is more than enough room and empty space.  We just need to be more civilised and become better at using resources.

*Slightly* off topic, but this is the global trend here on this wall, so please allow me to express myself:

1. Aging is nothing but degradation of our DNA information via replication of our cells. We happen to age every single second, mind you. When the DNA chain reaches the end, due to the disability of our mechanism to reproduce its cells without errors, we have the telomerase that is nothing more than Poly-A chains to eliminate the duplication errors. During our lifespan, those chains are getting shorter and shorter while the duplication reproduces more "errors" due to lack of them.

TL;DR: More Telomerase = More life.

2. What is life? What is the difference from your life and mine for example? The answer is simple. It's our memories. Memories are stored into our brains via biologic synapses which (in essence) are not very good way to store information. But this is what we got. I presume it won't be hard for next gen (quantum? ) computers to be able to "store" the memories of a person inside their "hard drive". The tech is already here - we now know what our brainwaves look like when we ie: move our hands, that's how scientists are able to produce bionic legs and hands and the person who "wears" them is able to control them via their brains.

3. Evolution NEEDS immortality (or if you prefer infinite lifespan). It's the way that we humans can evolve to better beings and develop our "next" versions. This is feasible right now (in theory) via several ways. I'd say we're in infancy regarding the tech we need to "make it happen" but "we know it's there".

Question is: Will we be here to see it happens? Or some redneck will "press the button" and "restart" the engine? It would be so pity.

And so to the difficult question. How to transfer the mind from the squishy biological substrate we call a brain into a digital form is simply a technological feat. It will be done.

More important (before your quantum mechanical golems arise) is how to do that without simply making a copy and leaving the original human mind trapped in meatspace! That is the point right? Immortality?

[SkyValeey]

This is the calm before the storm, gentlemen.

As I said before this is the drop before the huge rise

Sounds like hope, not analysis.

Look at 6h EMA.

[12345mm]

ah righto ... understandable to not want to devote mental energy to stuff like that , more important things going on in the everyday life real world and such ... that's not to say i agree that intellectual pursuits like that are a waste of time - greater understanding of science / the world we all live in IS important even if our own individual understanding of these concepts will necessarily be limited to the extent of our own experiences and consumed knowledge ... though man is that collider in geneva mighty expensive ... i remember seeing something a while back where some physicist estimated that it would never be possible to fully describe all of existence , basically due to the distances / scale of the universe itself and inconvenience of it being in constant motion - it may only be possible to fully describe the nature of reality if all of the universe collapses back into a singularity or if all matter and energy fully dissipates and everything were brought to 0 temperature and 0 movement , in either case precluding the possibility of human life to make such a measurement - we can however still accurately estimate and describe the likely nature of reality despite never being able to measure the relative position of every subatomic particle in the cosmos ... if you could know the truth of all things , would you want to ?

[SilenceOfTheLamb]

Always in bad taste to linger too long & overstay one's welcome. Besides, your grandkids have already bought you a nice plot.

Oh the irony..

You missed the point.  Of course a surgeon's scalpel is unwelcome to a boil, and penicillin is unwanted by the syphilis spirochete.
The doctor must weigh the feelings of boil/spirochete against the general wellbeing of his patient.  It's a choice.

http://s24.postimg.org/6etcnt1mt/1412545914187.png

I think you missed the point NotLambChop.

In any case, believing technology which could benefit the privileged few will not be developed to preserve the well being of the many is silly. No individual will choose not to have life extension technology, instead they will actively pursue it.

Don't be a silly boil.  Eternal life is as attractive as eternal reruns of "Who's the Boss?"

[BuildTheFuture]

TL;DR: More Telomerase = More life.

...

Question is: Will we be here to see it happens?

Already here if you have a few hundred K $

http://joshmitteldorf.scienceblog.com/2015/03/18/tomorrows-anti-aging-therapy-available-today/

[inca]

Shorted. No hope. Holding only fiat and few btc only to lav.short 
Bears = much ZEN last days 

This is the calm before the storm, gentlemen.

As I said before this is the drop before the huge rise

Sounds like hope, not analysis.

Look at 6h EMA.

Sounds like you are short and hope it falls ;p

[BlindMayorBitcorn]

Always in bad taste to linger too long & overstay one's welcome. Besides, your grandkids have already bought you a nice plot.

Oh the irony..

You missed the point.  Of course a surgeon's scalpel is unwelcome to a boil, and penicillin is unwanted by the syphilis spirochete.
The doctor must weigh the feelings of boil/spirochete against the general wellbeing of his patient.  It's a choice.

I think you missed the point NotLambChop.

In any case, believing technology which could benefit the privileged few will not be developed to preserve the well being of the many is silly. No individual will choose not to have life extension technology, instead they will actively pursue it.

Don't be a silly boil.  Eternal life is as attractive as eternal reruns of "Who's the Boss?"

Who let the Extropians back in the building?

[SilenceOfTheLamb]

... if you could know the truth of all things , would you want to ?

Knowing all would certainly help when it comes to playing the lottery (e.g. if i buy on Thursday, i'll win)
Knowing everything might also be pretty boring & "what now?" (like the skit on Family Guy where Wile E. catches Road Runner).

[12345mm]

heh ... yeah ... hard to say if having godlike understanding would be fun/beneficial or boring/depressing ... oh and the coyote and the roadrunner ... yknow in real life roadrunners are clumsy slow moving birds that don't fly very well , kindof like flamingos , whereas coyotes are fast predator animals ... wile e ought to catch the roadrunner every time ... 

[bri912678]

Always in bad taste to linger too long & overstay one's welcome. Besides, your grandkids have already bought you a nice plot.

Oh the irony..

You missed the point.  Of course a surgeon's scalpel is unwelcome to a boil, and penicillin is unwanted by the syphilis spirochete.
The doctor must weigh the feelings of boil/spirochete against the general wellbeing of his patient.  It's a choice.

I think you missed the point NotLambChop.

In any case, believing technology which could benefit the privileged few will not be developed to preserve the well being of the many is silly. No individual will choose not to have life extension technology, instead they will actively pursue it.

Don't be a silly boil.  Eternal life is as attractive as eternal reruns of "Who's the Boss?"

There was a film called Zardoz based on that concept. Set in the future, a computer kept everyone eternally alive. If you got sick of it and tried killing yourself the computer grew you a new body containing all your memories and you came back round in it. Ironically many eternals (including the system's creator) got sick of being alive and wanted to die, but they couldn't.

[SilenceOfTheLamb]

Can't make this shit up
http://www.deepdotweb.com/2015/02/19/bmr-toxin-vendor-sentenced-to-9-years-in-prison/
http://s10.postimg.org/spa1tyip5/Capture.jpg

"Jesse Korff peddled his poison in a shadowy, online network favored by cybercriminals"

Hahahaha

@12345mm:  Like everyone else, I always cheered for Wile E., but if the Road Runner cartoon teaches us anything, it's that intelligence & creativity don't count for shit when pitted against  stupidity & repetition.

[fichtn12345]

Always in bad taste to linger too long & overstay one's welcome. Besides, your grandkids have already bought you a nice plot.

Oh the irony..

You missed the point.  Of course a surgeon's scalpel is unwelcome to a boil, and penicillin is unwanted by the syphilis spirochete.
The doctor must weigh the feelings of boil/spirochete against the general wellbeing of his patient.  It's a choice.

I think you missed the point NotLambChop.

In any case, believing technology which could benefit the privileged few will not be developed to preserve the well being of the many is silly. No individual will choose not to have life extension technology, instead they will actively pursue it.

Don't be a silly boil.  Eternal life is as attractive as eternal reruns of "Who's the Boss?"

yea an eternity at bitcointalk sounds pretty boring. but you know.. there are people who actually have interesting lifes and would not mind extending them even if it is not eternal.

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