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[Natalia_AnatolioPAMM]

Hello to the nice people of bitcointalk  

I have around 2500 USD ready in exchange...do you think buy now or are we going lower first?

it can get very low - which doesn't mean it can go up!

[JimboToronto]

Good morning Bitcoinland.

Still going sideways but it looks like it's coiling up for some kind of move, hopefully up.
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I'd better not mention delicious morning beverages. I don't want to dull anyone's otherwise brighter day.  

[ChartBuddy]

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[macsga]

Looks like we have some movement on Stamp. Market buys & market sells. I believe we're heading North...

[sAt0sHiFanClub]

That's a fairly obvious fishing post, although, as you say, not as colourful as before. He's expecting some well-intentioned nerd to respond, only to bombard him/her with text. And as nerds we keep entertaining him. If only they could ban him.

I think the fact that you don't find them as funny anymore may be a subliminal realization that things aren't as rosy as you had been hoping to believe. After all the good news lately, for once outnumbering the scams, there is still no improvement in bitcoin. The failure of GBTC * to take off is a further kick in the nuts.

Maybe you are realizing that if bitcoin is going to succeed, it needs to do it on its own.

Anyway, my posts are generally aimed at the lurkers, the people who come here to check out what its all about. I understand you have your view and you are not about to change it for all the logic in China.  

I don't find them funny because I never did. I just needed some flow in my text.

And if you knew anything about logic you would know that logic doesn't say anything about anything. It's simply a way to analyse consistency within a text or a statement. Like this sentence:

"Maybe you are realizing that if bitcoin is going to succeed, it needs to do it on its own"

which could be seen as inconsistent with this:

"Anyway, my posts are generally aimed at the lurkers, the people who come here to check out what its all about."

Ask your buddy about it, he uses it quite consistently to mislead people.

With regards to lurkers. Every single one of them understands this thread better than you do, so you can lower your shoulders.

Yup. And apples are inconsistent with oranges. Different things, like different statements are, well, different.

Neither I nor Jorge is out to mislead anyone. Just to point out the obvious flaws in some of the absurdities that pass for axioms on this thread.
Being able to make an informed decision about anything generally requires you to look at both sides. For you, there is clearly only one side, and you don't want anyone to look at it from any other angle, Hence the need to demonize, "ignore" or blacklist anyone who doesn't fully subscribe to your own narrow view of bitcoin.

As for lurkers, I was watching this thread for a long time before I started posting. In that time I could see the obvious duplicity in the postings of certain regulars, who try to paint a picture that bitcoin is on its way to being worth $32k a coin because... well just because.

As for your statement

With regards to lurkers. Every single one of them understands this thread better than you do

Maybe they do. Dont know how you think you are qualified to say how "every single one" of them thinks, though . And if they have seen both sides of the argument in coming to their conclusions, then that is even better.

[sAt0sHiFanClub]

Good morning Bitcoinland.

Still going sideways but it looks like it's coiling up for some kind of move, hopefully up.
___

I'd better not mention delicious morning beverages. I don't want to dull anyone's otherwise brighter day.  

Damn the detractors. Your morning caffeine wranglings are as much part of bitcoin lore as Chinese pumps & dumps.

[Fatman3001]

Yup. And apples are inconsistent with oranges. Different things, like different statements are, well, different.

Neither I nor Jorge is out to mislead anyone. Just to point out the obvious flaws in some of the absurdities that pass for axioms on this thread.
Being able to make an informed decision about anything generally requires you to look at both sides. For you, there is clearly only one side, and you don't want anyone to look at it from any other angle, Hence the need to demonize, "ignore" or blacklist anyone who doesn't fully subscribe to your own narrow view of bitcoin.

As for lurkers, I was watching this thread for a long time before I started posting. In that time I could see the obvious duplicity in the postings of certain regulars, who try to paint a picture that bitcoin is on its way to being worth $32k a coin because... well just because.

As for your statement

With regards to lurkers. Every single one of them understands this thread better than you do

Maybe they do. Dont know how you think you are qualified to say how "every single one" of them thinks, though . And if they have seen both sides of the argument in coming to their conclusions, then that is even better.

Please keep pointing out flaws, but if you want to be taken seriously I would recommend that you build your own argument rather than keep defending our resident tl,dr-troll.

[mrkavasaki]

If bitcoins were around in the '90s...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=65&v=ZW-oUXqomT0

[JorgeStolfi]

JorgeStolfi don't you want to create better looking website than your current?
http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~stolfi/
I would create a nice one for you for 0.1 BTC and you can even accept BTC donations there for your work

Thanks, but I believe that simplest is best.

(On the other hand, I really should spend more time updating its contents.)

Besides, know that Real Programmers create their webpages only by editing raw HTML with emacs, after turning html-mode off.

(A couple decades ago, when I was the department's webmaster by default, I did write perl scripts that generated its HTML pages, to ensure consistent looks and such.  Now they have hired some "professional" web programmer, and you can see the result.  But it wasn't wasted work: I learned to hate perl.)

[noobtrader]

JorgeStolfi don't you want to create better looking website than your current?
http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~stolfi/
I would create a nice one for you for 0.1 BTC and you can even accept BTC donations there for your work

Thanks, but I believe that simplest is best.

(On the other hand, I really should spend more time updating its contents.)

Besides, know that Real Programmers create their webpages only by editing raw HTML with emacs, after turning html-mode off.

(A couple decades ago, when I was the department's webmaster by default, I did write perl scripts that generated its HTML pages, to ensure consistent looks and such.  Now they have hired some "professional" web programmer, and you can see the result.  But it wasn't wasted work: I learned to hate perl.)

i wonder if there is a plot twist here.... that JorgeStolfi is actually satoshi nakamoto

[ChartBuddy]

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[WeltMaster]

If bitcoins were around in the '90s...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=65&v=ZW-oUXqomT0

$1'162'790 per bitcoin!!!

sheeeeeeEEEEIT

[sAt0sHiFanClub]

Please keep pointing out flaws, but if you want to be taken seriously I would recommend that you build your own argument rather than keep defending our resident tl,dr-troll.

I don't 'defend' him, just his right to his opinion. I agree with a lot of what he says, but wouldn't share the same level of skepticism he has. But in the end of the day it is just a personal view, and any intelligent person knows they must make their own minds up about it while making sure they have all the relevant facts.

Anyway, I'm not always negative. I think bitcoin makes plenty of nice, quiet advances everyday.  In my own business, we have taken almost 200BTC in revenues, and paid out over 80BTC to freelancers since January.  Bullish! Indeed....  But I cant get others to get involved because every time they look into it they find crackpots and scammers.  

[Trolfi]

i wonder if there is a plot twist here.... that JorgeStolfi is actually satoshi nakamoto

no. 

[Walsoraj]

NERD ALERT!

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[hdbuck]

NERD ALERT!

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If image doesn't load, try: http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~stolfi/EXPORT/images/SUBJECTS/img/photos/misc/stolfi-3/p.png

roofies? anyone?

[erre]

[]Stolfi is trying his best to bring arguments and explain why is this happening.
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His tragic flaw is failing to accept what's readily apparent to pretty much everyone else - those still invested in Bitcoin are clearly immune to logic.
Teaching finance to the current crop of bitcoiners is about as productive as teaching table manners to Norway rats

https://youtu.be/9umdUu4YEsw

[Feri22]

NERD ALERT!

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If image doesn't load, try: http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~stolfi/EXPORT/images/SUBJECTS/img/photos/misc/stolfi-3/p.png

Man don't do this to me, i almost fell of the chair   I am just curious Jorge, what would have to happen that you would change your mind about bitcoin? i don't get why are you really here and saying BTC is bad and spending so much time on the forum...in the Speculation thread   why aren't you giving your wisdom in some technical thread saying to Gavin or Mike what you thing is wrong...?

[ChartBuddy]

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[minerpumpkin]

Breakout seems to be happening slowly on Finex, as we speak. We effectively have crossed the resistance line of the channel, but there's no serious action as of now. It seems China still has their brakes engaged. If they followed, we'd be going up, potentially back into the $240s!