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May 07, 2015, 09:51:56 AM |
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So post dump there are more bids on the order book for us to drop 6 dollars than to buy us all the way back to 258. Longs up a bit. Shorts over 30000.
Come on bulls!
inca do you trade or do you just HODL for the future? No reason, I'm just being nosey. I trade very sparingly. But i do have about forty coins on finex to gamble with. I buy once a week on circle and have done for months. |
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May 07, 2015, 09:53:36 AM |
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So post dump there are more bids on the order book for us to drop 6 dollars than to buy us all the way back to 258. Longs up a bit. Shorts over 30000.
Come on bulls!
inca do you trade or do you just HODL for the future? No reason, I'm just being nosey. I trade very sparingly. But i do have about forty coins on finex to gamble with. I buy once a week on circle and have done for months. Good man. |
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May 07, 2015, 09:57:55 AM |
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lay785
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May 07, 2015, 10:08:50 AM |
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so what happens if you have a keylogger on your computer? |
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May 07, 2015, 10:13:50 AM |
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so what happens if you have a keylogger on your computer? Create encrypted private key on air-gapped machine, copy via USB (or type manually). |
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inca
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May 07, 2015, 10:18:08 AM |
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so what happens if you have a keylogger on your computer? Create the bip38 address offline with tails or in my case a Chromebook. |
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lay785
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May 07, 2015, 10:21:08 AM |
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so what happens if you have a keylogger on your computer? Create encrypted private key on air-gapped machine, copy via USB (or type manually). 1) Usb keys are known to be capable of having viruses on them even if they are not connected to the internet. As far as I understand the infamous Stuxnet virus operated like that. 2) seems like a massive hassle to type things manually from an air-gapped machine. 3) In my opinion having such concerns kind of ruins the point of purchasing a special BTC hardware wallet. If you need the wallet and additionally need an air gapped machine you may as well just purchase a different hardware wallet that is less of a hassle eg. a trezor or a Case hardware wallet etc I guess it may have the same result but I would pay more to have less steps to perform. a simple solution but a lighter wallet XD |
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inca
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May 07, 2015, 10:23:18 AM |
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so what happens if you have a keylogger on your computer? Create encrypted private key on air-gapped machine, copy via USB (or type manually). 1) Usb keys are known to be capable of having viruses on them even if they are not connected to the internet. As far as I understand the infamous Stuxnet virus operated like that. 2) seems like a massive hassle to type things manually from an air-gapped machine. 3) In my opinion having such concerns kind of ruins the point of purchasing a special BTC hardware wallet. If you need the wallet and additionally need an air gapped machine you may as well just purchase a different hardware wallet that is less of a hassle eg. a trezor or a Case hardware wallet etc This is multi year cold storage that can be loaded up by qr code into a mobile wallet such as mycelium or manually entered in seconds. The only hassle is creating the bip38 address securely. |
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May 07, 2015, 10:24:12 AM |
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So post dump there are more bids on the order book for us to drop 6 dollars than to buy us all the way back to 258. Longs up a bit. Shorts over 30000.
Come on bulls!
inca do you trade or do you just HODL for the future? No reason, I'm just being nosey. I trade very sparingly. But i do have about forty coins on finex to gamble with. I buy once a week on circle and have done for months. Having 40 coins to "gamble with" sure sound like you still have a pretty nest-egg in cold storage. I bet most people in Bitcoin would be pretty thankful if they had that amount of coins, even at todays' prices! |
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inca
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May 07, 2015, 10:26:51 AM |
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So post dump there are more bids on the order book for us to drop 6 dollars than to buy us all the way back to 258. Longs up a bit. Shorts over 30000.
Come on bulls!
inca do you trade or do you just HODL for the future? No reason, I'm just being nosey. I trade very sparingly. But i do have about forty coins on finex to gamble with. I buy once a week on circle and have done for months. Having 40 coins to "gamble with" sure sound like you still have a pretty nest-egg in cold storage. I bet most people in Bitcoin would be pretty thankful if they had that amount of coins, even at todays' prices! Depressingly for all concerned 40 coins is a speck compared to what the big specs are playing with  |
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minerpumpkin
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May 07, 2015, 10:31:33 AM |
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So post dump there are more bids on the order book for us to drop 6 dollars than to buy us all the way back to 258. Longs up a bit. Shorts over 30000.
Come on bulls!
inca do you trade or do you just HODL for the future? No reason, I'm just being nosey. I trade very sparingly. But i do have about forty coins on finex to gamble with. I buy once a week on circle and have done for months. Having 40 coins to "gamble with" sure sound like you still have a pretty nest-egg in cold storage. I bet most people in Bitcoin would be pretty thankful if they had that amount of coins, even at todays' prices! Depressingly for all concerned 40 coins is a speck compared to what the big specs are playing with Yeah, you're right... I think it is key though to just hold significant amount of your stash in cold storage, just in case we go to $10k or even higher. It just is amazing how there are often posts like "After x months I finally got my first full Bitcoin" - But keep in mind, not everyone can afford buying a whole one (again, even at todays' prices). |
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lay785
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May 07, 2015, 10:32:54 AM |
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So post dump there are more bids on the order book for us to drop 6 dollars than to buy us all the way back to 258. Longs up a bit. Shorts over 30000.
Come on bulls!
inca do you trade or do you just HODL for the future? No reason, I'm just being nosey. I trade very sparingly. But i do have about forty coins on finex to gamble with. I buy once a week on circle and have done for months. Having 40 coins to "gamble with" sure sound like you still have a pretty nest-egg in cold storage. I bet most people in Bitcoin would be pretty thankful if they had that amount of coins, even at todays' prices! Depressingly for all concerned 40 coins is a speck compared to what the big specs are playing with Well if you trade with 40 coins on a 20x margin you actually have the buying power of 800 coins. So not that depressing after all :p |
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May 07, 2015, 10:33:09 AM |
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1) Usb keys are known to be capable of having viruses on them even if they are not connected to the internet.
As far as I understand the infamous Stuxnet virus operated like that.
2) seems like a massive hassle to type things manually from an air-gapped machine.
3) In my opinion having such concerns kind of ruins the point of purchasing a special BTC hardware wallet. If you need the wallet and additionally need an air gapped machine you may as well just purchase a different hardware wallet that is less of a hassle eg. a trezor or a Case hardware wallet etc
I guess it may have the same result but I would pay more to have less steps to perform. a simple solution but a lighter wallet XD
1) if you need to be that sure, then don't use USB 2) you can't be bothered to type 58 characters manually once for a longterm cold storage solution with (almost) 100% security? 3) trezor or case are something completely different and have other attack vectors |
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lay785
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May 07, 2015, 10:35:47 AM |
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trezor or case have other attack vectors
Oh, what are their weaknesses? I was not aware that a trezor had any ? |
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May 07, 2015, 10:37:44 AM |
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so what happens if you have a keylogger on your computer? Create encrypted private key on air-gapped machine, copy via USB (or type manually). 1) Usb keys are known to be capable of having viruses on them even if they are not connected to the internet. As far as I understand the infamous Stuxnet virus operated like that. 2) seems like a massive hassle to type things manually from an air-gapped machine. 3) In my opinion having such concerns kind of ruins the point of purchasing a special BTC hardware wallet. If you need the wallet and additionally need an air gapped machine you may as well just purchase a different hardware wallet that is less of a hassle eg. a trezor or a Case hardware wallet etc I guess it may have the same result but I would pay more to have less steps to perform. a simple solution but a lighter wallet XD Generate keys offline. Keep in head. Hodl. It's the only way to fly. |
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May 07, 2015, 10:43:37 AM |
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so what happens if you have a keylogger on your computer? Create encrypted private key on air-gapped machine, copy via USB (or type manually). 1) Usb keys are known to be capable of having viruses on them even if they are not connected to the internet. As far as I understand the infamous Stuxnet virus operated like that. This is why I burn CDs to move files from cold storage. |
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minerpumpkin
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May 07, 2015, 10:44:10 AM |
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trezor or case have other attack vectors
Oh, what are their weaknesses? I was not aware that a trezor had any ? I believe people were able to extract private keys by measuring electric noise or something, that's being created by the processor while processing the keys. It really is quite a remarkable method, I don't know how easy it is to apply it, though! |
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May 07, 2015, 10:51:26 AM |
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trezor or case have other attack vectors
Oh, what are their weaknesses? I was not aware that a trezor had any ? I believe people were able to extract private keys by measuring electric noise or something, that's being created by the processor while processing the keys. It really is quite a remarkable method, I don't know how easy it is to apply it, though! or the device can simply be tempered with during delivery or afterwards (in a way that was not foreseen by satoshilabs). or steal the thing, replace it with a fake to get the PIN and voilá |
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