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Question: How far will this leg take us?
$110K - 9 (8.3%)
$120K - 19 (17.6%)
$130K - 17 (15.7%)
$140K - 9 (8.3%)
$150K - 19 (17.6%)
$160K - 2 (1.9%)
$170K+ - 33 (30.6%)
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July 22, 2015, 08:28:34 PM

those who have thought it was a good idea to store your btc in a jeep, think again !

http://www.wired.com/2015/07/hackers-remotely-kill-jeep-highway/

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July 22, 2015, 08:37:41 PM

Things don't look good.

I'll try, but I don't know if it will help.

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July 22, 2015, 09:01:24 PM

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July 22, 2015, 09:02:58 PM

Things don't look good.
In my opinion things look very good for the bulls.
Support at ~275 is holding strong. I'm slowly accumulating more coins as we speak. Smiley
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July 22, 2015, 09:10:13 PM

Is this right ?

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Porn were first real mass adopters of VHS, DVD and Internet technology

And postcards.

In the beginning of the VCR, a friend of mine bought one, and the reaction from his mother in law was: Do you really want that filth in your house?
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July 22, 2015, 09:15:13 PM


Hence why the argument of it already being priced in somewhat certainly holds water.



It isn't priced in because it is over a year away. There are people arguing for a rally, a fizzle or no effect.

It is undeniably a huge event on the bitcoin calendar because it marks the last time that bitcoin coin inflation can ever be blamed for supply exceeding demand and pushing the price down.

5% inflation is pretty good. But any price shenanigans that go on around that time will be driven by the same heavy speculators driving the price up and down.

In the longer run if demand picks up then the reduced mining supply could lead to price rises. Which would be nice. Smiley

Disagree. Any event that you know of is a part of the consideration when buying/selling that stock/currency/commodity etc etc.

I'm not saying its completely priced in I said hence why that argument holds water.

You can't seriously suggest that it's not already part of the market psychology when people are already talking about it and anticipating a price rise due to it. All speculators big and small are holding hoping for it to cause a price rise.

It certainly doesn't mark the last time that btc inflation can be blamed for supply exceeding demand. How can you possibly say that. If the price rallies up to $10000 on a spike (remember on long term charts $1000+ was just a monthly spike) Then supply in $ terms could still easily outstrip demand. Don't forget not all mined coins are instantly sold, and all mined coins are part of inflation.

My point being you can't possibly state what you're saying as fact.

Saying it is priced in is meaningless in my humble opinion. It is just something people say. If the market simply knowing an event in advance means it is priced in then the 2020 halving is priced in too, right? Smiley

You are right of course that if the price rallies up hugely then even 5% inflation could exert an effect. But the price is set by supply and demand and going forward the mining supply is going to become largely an irrelevence in comparison with the actual proportion of coins already in existence being used to set the price.

I will just say that it is an exciting time to be in bitcoin.

The supply is the coins on offer from people who want to hold less.
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July 22, 2015, 09:21:34 PM

What do you suggest now? Buy or sell ?

I would suggest staying there where you are not selling and not buying, not a good time.
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July 22, 2015, 09:34:00 PM

What do you suggest now? Buy or sell ?

I would suggest staying there where you are not selling and not buying, not a good time.

Right, because consumer adoption always increases when no one buys.  Roll Eyes
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July 22, 2015, 10:58:34 PM


Well yeah the 2020 halving is also 'priced in'. Everyone knows the economy behind Bitcoin production and inflation. Knowing from the start when halvings in production are taking place and having a cap on the total money supply is why many people are here and why many speculators forsee an increase in price over time as long as new money >= coins wishing to be sold.


Yes, nothing happened after the first halving when the price was $9 because it was priced in. Nothing happened soon after that. Can't fight science.

I dont know if that was sarcasm or not but I will side with not.
very few people gave a shit about BTC when it was 9 bucks bud. When you could mine tons with just a cpu... yeah.
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July 22, 2015, 10:58:36 PM


Well yeah the 2020 halving is also 'priced in'. Everyone knows the economy behind Bitcoin production and inflation. Knowing from the start when halvings in production are taking place and having a cap on the total money supply is why many people are here and why many speculators forsee an increase in price over time as long as new money >= coins wishing to be sold.


Yes, nothing happened after the first halving when the price was $9 because it was priced in. Nothing happened soon after that. Can't fight science.

Explainable by demand (new money >= coins wishing to be sold), not necessarily a direct result of the halving. The point being you still need new money coming in to be greater than the value of the coins wishing to be sold regardless of mining amount. Saying supply halving MUST mean price increase is not true.
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Well yeah the 2020 halving is also 'priced in'. Everyone knows the economy behind Bitcoin production and inflation. Knowing from the start when halvings in production are taking place and having a cap on the total money supply is why many people are here and why many speculators forsee an increase in price over time as long as new money >= coins wishing to be sold.


Yes, nothing happened after the first halving when the price was $9 because it was priced in. Nothing happened soon after that. Can't fight science.

Explainable by demand (new money >= coins wishing to be sold), not necessarily a direct result of the halving. The point being you still need new money coming in to be greater than the value of the coins wishing to be sold regardless of mining amount. Saying supply halving MUST mean price increase is not true.

If we did not have new money coming in then the price would be zero.
IMO, if it even sniffed 100 bucks I would take a chance a buy a good amount of coin myself.
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July 22, 2015, 11:13:42 PM

Trending up again?
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July 22, 2015, 11:14:49 PM

Trending up again?

Yes, it just went up 3 cents...
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Trending up again?

Yes, it just went up 3 cents...

Amazing! I knew it.
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July 22, 2015, 11:24:27 PM

ALL DAY HIGH!!!!!!
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July 23, 2015, 12:26:45 AM

Wherefore art thou Chartbuddy?

You're late. AWOL?
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Wherefore art thou Chartbuddy?

You're late. AWOL?

Even bots need some rest
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July 23, 2015, 12:43:56 AM

Wherefore art thou Chartbuddy?

You're late. AWOL?

Even bots needs some rest
^^Best quip I've read in days.^^



Well done Mark.
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