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[marcus_of_augustus]

everyone can see as clear as day there is some power struggle with bitcoin dev. and the solution to block limit is hard to see.
i'm not / no one is denying that
the speculations that bitcoin is about to fork as a result, and the dire consequences that ensue,  are largely exaggerated.
so what, the big picture looks gr8, segwit is a huge improvement, MUCH better solution then simply upping the limit.
and to me the fact that "the community has been tearing itself to pieces like a mental patient on bath salts." is just fucking bullish...

yep, and I know who my money is on in this game ... it will be the cypherpunks and cryptogeeks who built this thing and truly understand its subtle nuances and well-balanced incentive structures rather the CoinBase brian armstrong's R3 Hearn's and sundry govt toady boot-licker johnny-come-latelys who want a new PayPal for Big Bruh data-harvesting and black-listing.

the cypherpunks have more tricks up their sleeves in regards to hard forking POW, sybill attacks than you have half heard about ... if these wiener VCs and guvcorpro-bully boyz want a fork intrigue over this they better show up well prepared ... it's not about the money, it's about sending a message, choose your team wisely.

So you`re siding with Gavin? Well I`ll be...

you're probably too late an arrival to know up from down ... let's just say Gavin crapped in the nest, he was a useful steward and clean-cut kind face for Big Brah when bitcoin needed to front the first media shitstorms but now he's just embarassing himself amongst the adults. Satoshi knows and you do not want to be on the fork satoshi dumps on ...

[sAt0sHiFanClub]

Looks like segwit will need to be hard forked. That should finally bring this issue to a close.

segwit *always* needed to be hard forked.  The soft fork dream was never going to float if anyone valued decent software design.

btw - Can you source that?  

[billyjoeallen]

let me say it again


 less than 380, NEVER AGAIN.

I feel like maybe you haven't been paying attention to the fact that the community has been tearing itself to pieces like a mental patient on bath salts?

everyone can see as clear as day there is some power struggle with bitcoin dev. and the solution to block limit is hard to see.
i'm not / no one is denying that
the speculations that bitcoin is about to fork as a result, and the dire consequences that ensue,  are largely exaggerated.
so what, the big picture looks gr8, segwit is a huge improvement, MUCH better solution then simply upping the limit.
and to me the fact that "the community has been tearing itself to pieces like a mental patient on bath salts." is just fucking bullish...

yep, and I know who my money is on in this game ... it will be the cypherpunks and cryptogeeks who built this thing and truly understand its subtle nuances and well-balanced incentive structures rather the CoinBase brian armstrong's R3 Hearn's and sundry govt toady boot-licker johnny-come-latelys who want a new PayPal for Big Bruh data-harvesting and black-listing.

the cypherpunks have more tricks up their sleeves in regards to hard forking POW, sybill attacks than you have half heard about ... if these wiener VCs and guvcorpro-bully boyz want a fork intrigue over this they better show up well prepared ... it's not about the money, it's about sending a message, choose your team wisely.

It's you who want to turn Bitcoin into PayPal by pushing users off the main chain and out onto settlement layers. You're the people that want to have the centralized power in the system. You think we don't understand the delicate balance of features at play, but you are sadly mistaken.  If Bitcoin can't survive a hard fork, then it wasn't worth investing in in the first place.  I think it will survive and thrive but one way or another, we're gonna find out because it damn sure won't survive being run by a bunch of ideological codemonkeys without the business sense to run a lemonade stand.

I got into this game because I'm a hard core anarcho-capitalist, but I'm not going to pretend to know that I know what's better for the customer than the customer. The Market is God and always always has the last word.

[billyjoeallen]

let me say it again


 less than 380, NEVER AGAIN.

Still stand by that call?  I think there is a one hundred and eleventeen percent chance that you are wrong.  I will bet my last satoshi on it.

There you go... not making sense, again.... 

Huh?  He was right, though? went to 379 briefly about 10 mins later....

Now Stamp is under as well. My last satoshi is safe.

[sAt0sHiFanClub]

yep, and I know who my money is on in this game ... it will be the cypherpunks and cryptogeeks who built this thing and truly understand its subtle nuances and well-balanced incentive structures rather the CoinBase brian armstrong's R3 Hearn's and sundry govt toady boot-licker johnny-come-latelys who want a new PayPal for Big Bruh data-harvesting and black-listing.

the cypherpunks have more tricks up their sleeves in regards to hard forking POW, sybill attacks than you have half heard about ... if these wiener VCs and guvcorpro-bully boyz want a fork intrigue over this they better show up well prepared ... it's not about the money, it's about sending a message, choose your team wisely.

But adam said bitcoin is for Banks and BigBusiness...  Where the f*ck do you think you are going to fit in that vision? Shining their shoes, perhaps? Bringing the sandwiches?

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[CuntChocula]

*cough*

fucking cheap coin if you ask me, and billy being bearish is a pretty darn good indicator, we're going up.

Adam simply posting is best indicator.
Down we go.

[ImI]

Looks like segwit will need to be hard forked. That should finally bring this issue to a close.

why? just combine it with a 2MB hardfork and everybody is happy.

[Fatman3001]

everyone can see as clear as day there is some power struggle with bitcoin dev. and the solution to block limit is hard to see.
i'm not / no one is denying that
the speculations that bitcoin is about to fork as a result, and the dire consequences that ensue,  are largely exaggerated.
so what, the big picture looks gr8, segwit is a huge improvement, MUCH better solution then simply upping the limit.
and to me the fact that "the community has been tearing itself to pieces like a mental patient on bath salts." is just fucking bullish...

yep, and I know who my money is on in this game ... it will be the cypherpunks and cryptogeeks who built this thing and truly understand its subtle nuances and well-balanced incentive structures rather the CoinBase brian armstrong's R3 Hearn's and sundry govt toady boot-licker johnny-come-latelys who want a new PayPal for Big Bruh data-harvesting and black-listing.

the cypherpunks have more tricks up their sleeves in regards to hard forking POW, sybill attacks than you have half heard about ... if these wiener VCs and guvcorpro-bully boyz want a fork intrigue over this they better show up well prepared ... it's not about the money, it's about sending a message, choose your team wisely.

So you`re siding with Gavin? Well I`ll be...

you're probably too late an arrival to know up from down ... let's just say Gavin crapped in the nest, he was a useful steward and clean-cut kind face for Big Brah when bitcoin needed to front the first media shitstorms but now he's just embarassing himself amongst the adults. Satoshi knows and you do not want to be on the fork satoshi dumps on ...

Relax. Just teasing.

As an old-timer, how would you say Gavin crapped in the nest?

[Fatman3001]

Looks like segwit will need to be hard forked. That should finally bring this issue to a close.

why? just combine it with a 2MB hardfork and everybody is happy.

Agree 100%. Put yer gunz down and fork this here shit!

[coins101]

Looks like segwit will need to be hard forked. That should finally bring this issue to a close.

why? just combine it with a 2MB hardfork and everybody is happy.

Because segwit will need a hard fork is exactly the reason why the uncertainty over increasing the blocksize will be over soon.  

We will soon enter political negotiations between the main camps where they will horse trade a 'peace' deal which will result in unity, therefore bringing things to a head.

[Fatman3001]

Looks like segwit will need to be hard forked. That should finally bring this issue to a close.

why? just combine it with a 2MB hardfork and everybody is happy.

Because segwit will need a hard fork is exactly the reason why the uncertainty over increasing the blocksize will be over soon.  

We will soon enter political negotiations between the main camps where they will horse trade a 'peace' deal which will result in unity, therefore bringing things to a head.

Yah...one problem. They're all nerds. Do you know what that means?

[coins101]

Looks like segwit will need to be hard forked. That should finally bring this issue to a close.

why? just combine it with a 2MB hardfork and everybody is happy.

Because segwit will need a hard fork is exactly the reason why the uncertainty over increasing the blocksize will be over soon.  

We will soon enter political negotiations between the main camps where they will horse trade a 'peace' deal which will result in unity, therefore bringing things to a head.

Yah...one problem. They're all nerds. Do you know what that means?

They will still manage to fuck up a potential deal by talking about details leading to them falling out over something else, delaying things for so long we will need a 50mb block size increase?

[sAt0sHiFanClub]

Looks like segwit will need to be hard forked. That should finally bring this issue to a close.

why? just combine it with a 2MB hardfork and everybody is happy.

Because segwit will need a hard fork is exactly the reason why the uncertainty over increasing the blocksize will be over soon.  

We will soon enter political negotiations between the main camps where they will horse trade a 'peace' deal which will result in unity, therefore bringing things to a head.

Yah...one problem. They're all nerds. Do you know what that means?

I dunno, but I reckon lunch money would be easy to come by there.

[CuntChocula]

Looks like segwit will need to be hard forked. That should finally bring this issue to a close.

why? just combine it with a 2MB hardfork and everybody is happy.

Because segwit will need a hard fork is exactly the reason why the uncertainty over increasing the blocksize will be over soon.  

We will soon enter political negotiations between the main camps where they will horse trade a 'peace' deal which will result in unity, therefore bringing things to a head.

Yah...one problem. They're all nerds. Do you know what that means?

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[BlindMayorBitcorn]

       ^GMax                             Gavin^

[BlindMayorBitcorn]

Is the war is over NOW?

https://github.com/gavinandresen/bips/blob/92e1efd0493c1cbde47304c9711f13f413cc9099/bip-bump2mb.mediawiki

[marcus_of_augustus]

ok looks the trolls, tryhards and simply bored chattering classes are sufficiently stirred up again ... bye.

[DaRude]

let me say it again


 less than 380, NEVER AGAIN.

Still stand by that call?  I think there is a one hundred and eleventeen percent chance that you are wrong.  I will bet my last satoshi on it.

There you go... not making sense, again.... 

Huh?  He was right, though? went to 379 briefly about 10 mins later....

Now Stamp is under as well. My last satoshi is safe.

Thought everyone is following btc-e now  

[rdnkjdi]

Is the war is over NOW?

https://github.com/gavinandresen/bips/blob/92e1efd0493c1cbde47304c9711f13f413cc9099/bip-bump2mb.mediawiki

I would be shocked if this doesn't drag on for three more months with nothing being decided.