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Question: Price Target for Nov. 30, 2024:
<$75K - 4 (3.1%)
$75K to $80K - 1 (0.8%)
$80K to $85K - 2 (1.5%)
$85K to $90K - 10 (7.7%)
$90K to $95K - 15 (11.5%)
$95K to $100K - 28 (21.5%)
>$100K - 70 (53.8%)
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February 18, 2016, 12:20:29 PM

v0.12 bitcoin is being released ... watch and learn what real network uptake looks like.

0.12 is awesome , I have been beta testing for a couple weeks now and have noticed up to +5x syncing with libsecp256k1, the new tools to reduce upload traffic to keep limited nodes from using too much bandwidth are great, mempool limit adjusting is good to keep raspberry pi nodes from crashing,  automated use of TOR, conf conflict detection ,  and more .

I haven't played around with pruned Full node features yet , and that is the next thing to test. 2GB ~full nodes is an amazing option for many people with limited disk space.

Last one I tested ...

https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2016-February/012448.html

Candidate 5 ...

oh good

it works slightly better with a raspberry pi now

sure good that they've got their priorities right

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Anyhew... how many of you will dump Bitcoin when the next speculative bubble bursts and we have to rely on adoption to make this turd float?
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February 18, 2016, 12:22:44 PM

Bitcoin is ours! Cool

Indeed.  

Bitcoin is defined by the code we choose to run.  

As a btc user, I never had the opportunity to chose which code I was going to use.

Using "plug and play" spv or core wallets and trading on centralized exchanges does not make you a "bitcoin user" technically speaking.


So for you someone using electrum and saving his private keys is not a btc user?
What is a btc user then?

He appears to think of a Bitcoin user as a miner, someone who runs a full node, or at least runs some flavor of a core wallet. Do only "kids" run SPV wallets although you can do advanced things like multisig with them, and Satoshi invented the SPV wallet concept for Bitcoin users to use?
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February 18, 2016, 12:23:43 PM

Bitcoin is ours! Cool

Indeed.  

Bitcoin is defined by the code we choose to run.  

As a btc user, I never had the opportunity to chose which code I was going to use.

Using "plug and play" spv or core wallets and trading on centralized exchanges does not make you a "bitcoin user" technically speaking.


So for you someone using electrum and saving his private keys is not a btc user?
What is a btc user then?

He appears to think of a Bitcoin user as a miner, someone who runs a full node, or at least runs some flavor of a core wallet. Do only "kids" run SPV wallets although you can do advanced things like multisig with them, and Satoshi invented the SPV wallet concept for Bitcoin users to use?

I think it's important to be aware of the fact that hdbuck is a fucking idiot.
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February 18, 2016, 12:25:06 PM
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People are no longer cashing out on Eth and Bitcoin still going up aggressively... general sentiment bullish.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EjpEqZt_AA&feature=youtu.be

Getting rid of physical cash ongoing ... to prepare for negative interest rates and more control of your assets.

Bills killed -
500 bill
1000 bill
5000 bill
10,000 bill

Next target to kill -

100 dollar bill ... all while the dollar keeps dropping in spending power due to inflation. If anything larger bills should be introduced.

For the last 14k years , anonymous currency has been the norm and an essential and important right for privacy and autonomy. They are trying to take this away and further enslave everyone.

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February 18, 2016, 12:28:54 PM

People are no longer cashing out on Eth and Bitcoin still going up aggressively... general sentiment bullish.


We're probably on our way for a royal whopping rally.

Too bad Bitcoin will have to remain a tool for speculators for the next couple of years. If we're lucky.
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February 18, 2016, 12:36:07 PM

Bitcoin is ours! Cool

Indeed.  

Bitcoin is defined by the code we choose to run.  

As a btc user, I never had the opportunity to chose which code I was going to use.

Using "plug and play" spv or core wallets and trading on centralized exchanges does not make you a "bitcoin user" technically speaking.


So for you someone using electrum and saving his private keys is not a btc user?
What is a btc user then?

He appears to think of a Bitcoin user as a miner, someone who runs a full node, or at least runs some flavor of a core wallet. Do only "kids" run SPV wallets although you can do advanced things like multisig with them, and Satoshi invented the SPV wallet concept for Bitcoin users to use?

I think it's important to be aware of the fact that hdbuck is a fucking idiot.

An angry, bitter idiot, to be precise.
or is good at never breaking character
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February 18, 2016, 12:39:10 PM

Bitcoin is ours! Cool

Indeed.  

Bitcoin is defined by the code we choose to run.  

As a btc user, I never had the opportunity to chose which code I was going to use.

Using "plug and play" spv or core wallets and trading on centralized exchanges does not make you a "bitcoin user" technically speaking.


So for you someone using electrum and saving his private keys is not a btc user?
What is a btc user then?

He appears to think of a Bitcoin user as a miner, someone who runs a full node, or at least runs some flavor of a core wallet. Do only "kids" run SPV wallets although you can do advanced things like multisig with them, and Satoshi invented the SPV wallet concept for Bitcoin users to use?

I think it's important to be aware of the fact that hdbuck is a fucking idiot.

An angry, bitter idiot, to be precise.
or is good at never breaking character [Fatman says= go figure, when did you buy his account?]

Thx, that clarification is appreciated.
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February 18, 2016, 12:40:00 PM

People are no longer cashing out on Eth and Bitcoin still going up aggressively... general sentiment bullish.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EjpEqZt_AA&feature=youtu.be

Getting rid of physical cash ongoing ... to prepare for negative interest rates and more control of your assets.

Bills killed -
500 bill
1000 bill
5000 bill
10,000 bill

Next target to kill -

100 dollar bill ... all while the dollar keeps dropping in spending power due to inflation. If anything larger bills should be introduced.

BTCeanie users unaffected Cool
*Bills killed -
500 bill
1000 bill
5000 bill
10,000 bill
First world problems... "gud buy, crool wurld, without $10,000 bill, life itself is meaningless."
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February 18, 2016, 01:00:55 PM

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February 18, 2016, 01:06:31 PM

Bitcoin is ours! Cool

Indeed.  

Bitcoin is defined by the code we choose to run.  

As a btc user, I never had the opportunity to chose which code I was going to use.

Using "plug and play" spv or core wallets and trading on centralized exchanges does not make you a "bitcoin user" technically speaking.


So for you someone using electrum and saving his private keys is not a btc user?
What is a btc user then?

He appears to think of a Bitcoin user as a miner, someone who runs a full node, or at least runs some flavor of a core wallet. Do only "kids" run SPV wallets although you can do advanced things like multisig with them, and Satoshi invented the SPV wallet concept for Bitcoin users to use?

I think it's important to be aware of the fact that hdbuck is a fucking idiot.

An angry, bitter idiot, to be precise.
or is good at never breaking character [Fatman says= go figure, when did you buy his account?]

Thx, that clarification is appreciated.

AHAHAH xD

Ok thanks guys, I didn't really understand in what I was not a btc user but everything is much more clear right now ^^
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February 18, 2016, 01:12:07 PM

this bitcoin rise the last days looks realy interesting.
for me it looks like the beginning of bigger rises.
would not surprise me if we are more high end of this week.
Seems like it's mostly due to Chinese fiat decrease in value, so it's solid but shouldn't go too far!
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February 18, 2016, 01:19:05 PM

Burger King (Arnhem, The Netherlands) accepts Bitcoin payments! To celebrate the 100-retailer milestone, a mystery event will be held at Burger King Arnhem tomorrow evening.

I dont live near Arnhem but it's worth the trip to buy a hamburger menu with Bitcoin  Cool

http://bitcoinist.net/burger-king-arnhem-now-accepts-bitcoin-payments
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February 18, 2016, 01:29:06 PM

Burger King (Arnhem, The Netherlands) accepts Bitcoin payments! To celebrate the 100-retailer milestone, a mystery event will be held at Burger King Arnhem tomorrow evening.

I dont live near Arnhem but it's worth the trip to buy a hamburger menu with Bitcoin  Cool

http://bitcoinist.net/burger-king-arnhem-now-accepts-bitcoin-payments

Looks like I'm moving to Arnhem then.
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February 18, 2016, 01:32:21 PM

Burger King (Arnhem, The Netherlands) accepts Bitcoin payments! To celebrate the 100-retailer milestone, a mystery event will be held at Burger King Arnhem tomorrow evening.

I dont live near Arnhem but it's worth the trip to buy a hamburger menu with Bitcoin  Cool

http://bitcoinist.net/burger-king-arnhem-now-accepts-bitcoin-payments
Hey!
I don't like Burger King but that's really cool to see a shop like this accepting btc especially in Europe!
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February 18, 2016, 01:34:17 PM

Bitcoin is ours! Cool

Indeed.  

Bitcoin is defined by the code we choose to run.  

As a btc user, I never had the opportunity to chose which code I was going to use.

Using "plug and play" spv or core wallets and trading on centralized exchanges does not make you a "bitcoin user" technically speaking.


So for you someone using electrum and saving his private keys is not a btc user?
What is a btc user then?

He appears to think of a Bitcoin user as a miner, someone who runs a full node, or at least runs some flavor of a core wallet. Do only "kids" run SPV wallets although you can do advanced things like multisig with them, and Satoshi invented the SPV wallet concept for Bitcoin users to use?

I think it's important to be aware of the fact that hdbuck is a fucking idiot.

An angry, bitter idiot, to be precise.
or is good at never breaking character [Fatman says= go figure, when did you buy his account?]

Thx, that clarification is appreciated.

AHAHAH xD

Ok thanks guys, I didn't really understand in what I was not a btc user but everything is much more clear right now ^^

Yes listen to the trolls and forkers here, they surely know what they are talking about.

Bitcoin's point is to remove the middleman, to be your own bank, hence spv, or exchanges are not a technically sound practice within the bitcoin sphere.

Just like using facebook and giving up all your information to Google et al. does not make you a sane internet user.

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February 18, 2016, 01:38:01 PM

Bitcoin is ours! Cool

Indeed.  

Bitcoin is defined by the code we choose to run.  

As a btc user, I never had the opportunity to chose which code I was going to use.

Using "plug and play" spv or core wallets and trading on centralized exchanges does not make you a "bitcoin user" technically speaking.


So for you someone using electrum and saving his private keys is not a btc user?
What is a btc user then?

He appears to think of a Bitcoin user as a miner, someone who runs a full node, or at least runs some flavor of a core wallet. Do only "kids" run SPV wallets although you can do advanced things like multisig with them, and Satoshi invented the SPV wallet concept for Bitcoin users to use?

I think it's important to be aware of the fact that hdbuck is a fucking idiot.

An angry, bitter idiot, to be precise.
or is good at never breaking character [Fatman says= go figure, when did you buy his account?]

Thx, that clarification is appreciated.

AHAHAH xD

Ok thanks guys, I didn't really understand in what I was not a btc user but everything is much more clear right now ^^

Yes listen to the trolls and forkers here, they surely know what they are talking about.

Bitcoin's point is to remove the middleman, hence spv, or exchanges are not a technically sound practice within the bitcoin sphere.

Just like using facebook and giving up all your information to Google et al. does not make you a sane internet user.

So technically, bitcoin has, at most *less than 5,000 Correction: about 6,000 users, due to recent explosive growth of Classic!*: because that's how many full nodes there are, and some (*gasp*) run more than one node Shocked

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February 18, 2016, 01:43:47 PM

We should try to curb adoption early. Too many users not running full core nodes weakens the system. Like parasites Angry
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February 18, 2016, 01:54:48 PM

We should try to curb adoption early. Too many users not running full core nodes weakens the system. Like parasites Angry

You're serious?
I mean if you are, then seems like you have a very "elite" perception of cryptocurrencies...
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February 18, 2016, 02:03:02 PM

You're serious?
I mean if you are, then seems like you have a very "elite" perception of cryptocurrencies...

He is being sarcastic and in the camp of lets blow up capacity as much as possible and dump all the spam on the main chain regardless of the consequences because I am impatient and want bitcoin to compete with visa Immediately , regardless of the consequences.

In reality we don't have to choose between either. There is a false dichotomy being painted.

Bitcoin already has a temporary surplus capacity with insured and regulated off the chain solutions for all those influx of new users like coinbase / circle/ and other exchanges... If a fee market starts to build up that will drive some of the spam off the network , encourage some new users to use off the chain solutions instead, and spur some innovation in use of payment channels like what 21 introduced.

The sky isn't falling. Bitcoin can take on much more overnight without any issues.
 
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