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[BlindMayorBitcorn]

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[blunderer]

https://twitter.com/gavinandresen/status/701258037747646464

So.... what's the process for deciding what goes into Core hard fork and how it's deployed? Same way timeline was decided?

Burn?

burn indeed

Yeah, well, Gavin is the Chief Scientist of Bitcoin. Who, exactly, are your lame friends again?

[brg444]

https://twitter.com/gavinandresen/status/701258037747646464

So.... what's the process for deciding what goes into Core hard fork and how it's deployed? Same way timeline was decided?

Burn?

burn indeed

Yeah, well, Gavin is the Chief Scientist of Bitcoin. Who, exactly, are your lame friends again?

Lol, Lambie you've been losing your edge lately. What happened?

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[mavericklm]

We have recently become aware that your username [Brg444] is inconsistant with documentation you submitted upon registering. Your account with us has been locked pending authentication of your identity.

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nice!!!

[adamstgBit]

you know this agreement is the best thing we've ever seen when brg444 and I agree on it.

[billyjoeallen]

make note of anyone loudly expressing frustration with this agreement and actively trying to stop it

its likely they are stupid.

FFS

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1372397.0

strongly recommend moving your BTC out of coinbase
do not trust these spot light loving restarts, and show them your disuse for actively trying to stop what little progress we FINALLY have made, by leaving them.
if you leave coins on coinbase, you are supporting, another year of bitching and nothing getting done while bitcoin bleeds.

I think it was a bad move on the part of Armstrong. We need the miners on the big block side and opposing their deal alienates them.  He's right though that we still need to run our Classic nodes but as a deal enforcement mechanism. You know damn well Core will renege if we don't have leverage on them.

I'm just wondering how Back is going to sell this to the true believers without have them ragequit.  They see themselves as making a principled stand on engineering integrity. They are, but they also don't understand that it doesn't matter.  A top security network isn't possible as long as majority hashpower is concentrated in China.  A value network, not a quality network is our only option.

[Cconvert2G36]

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[mavericklm]

fuck blockstream!!! & the rest of the pussies!

[blunderer]

https://twitter.com/gavinandresen/status/701258037747646464

So.... what's the process for deciding what goes into Core hard fork and how it's deployed? Same way timeline was decided?

Burn?

burn indeed

Yeah, well, Gavin is the Chief Scientist of Bitcoin. Who, exactly, are your lame friends again?

Lol, Lambie you've been losing your edge lately. What happened?

Yeah, just like i thought, you got nothing. Gavin's the Chief Scientist, and your friends just cruise toilets & collect welfare

[adamstgBit]

make note of anyone loudly expressing frustration with this agreement and actively trying to stop it

its likely they are stupid.

FFS

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1372397.0

strongly recommend moving your BTC out of coinbase
do not trust these spot light loving restarts, and show them your disuse for actively trying to stop what little progress we FINALLY have made, by leaving them.
if you leave coins on coinbase, you are supporting, another year of bitching and nothing getting done while bitcoin bleeds.

I think it was a bad move on the part of Armstrong. We need the miners on the big block side and opposing their deal alienates them.  He's right though that we still need to run our Classic nodes but as a deal enforcement mechanism. You know damn well Core will renege if we don't have leverage on them.

I'm just wondering how Back is going to sell this to the true believers without have them ragequit.  They see themselves as making a principled stand on engineering integrity. They are, but they also don't understand that it doesn't matter.  A top security network isn't possible as long as majority hashpower is concentrated in China.  A value network, not a quality network is our only option.

now we fully understand why we need at least 1 competing impl.

[BlindMayorBitcorn]

make note of anyone loudly expressing frustration with this agreement and actively trying to stop it

its likely they are stupid.

FFS

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1372397.0

strongly recommend moving your BTC out of coinbase
do not trust these spot light loving restarts, and show them your disuse for actively trying to stop what little progress we FINALLY have made, by leaving them.
if you leave coins on coinbase, you are supporting, another year of bitching and nothing getting done while bitcoin bleeds.

I think it was a bad move on the part of Armstrong. We need the miners on the big block side and opposing their deal alienates them.  He's right though that we still need to run our Classic nodes but as a deal enforcement mechanism. You know damn well Core will renege if we don't have leverage on them.

I'm just wondering how Back is going to sell this to the true believers without have them ragequit.  They see themselves as making a principled stand on engineering integrity. They are, but they also don't understand that it doesn't matter.  A top security network isn't possible as long as majority hashpower is concentrated in China.  A value network, not a quality network is our only option.

now we fully understand why we need at least 1 competing impl.

Competing implementations that didn't threaten to break the protocol would be nice.

Am I asking too much?

[adamstgBit]

make note of anyone loudly expressing frustration with this agreement and actively trying to stop it

its likely they are stupid.

FFS

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1372397.0

strongly recommend moving your BTC out of coinbase
do not trust these spot light loving restarts, and show them your disuse for actively trying to stop what little progress we FINALLY have made, by leaving them.
if you leave coins on coinbase, you are supporting, another year of bitching and nothing getting done while bitcoin bleeds.

I think it was a bad move on the part of Armstrong. We need the miners on the big block side and opposing their deal alienates them.  He's right though that we still need to run our Classic nodes but as a deal enforcement mechanism. You know damn well Core will renege if we don't have leverage on them.

I'm just wondering how Back is going to sell this to the true believers without have them ragequit.  They see themselves as making a principled stand on engineering integrity. They are, but they also don't understand that it doesn't matter.  A top security network isn't possible as long as majority hashpower is concentrated in China.  A value network, not a quality network is our only option.

now we fully understand why we need at least 1 competing impl.

Competing implementations that didn't threaten to break the protocol would be nice.

Am I asking too much?

lol agreed.

[billyjoeallen]

make note of anyone loudly expressing frustration with this agreement and actively trying to stop it

its likely they are stupid.

FFS

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1372397.0

strongly recommend moving your BTC out of coinbase
do not trust these spot light loving restarts, and show them your disuse for actively trying to stop what little progress we FINALLY have made, by leaving them.
if you leave coins on coinbase, you are supporting, another year of bitching and nothing getting done while bitcoin bleeds.

I think it was a bad move on the part of Armstrong. We need the miners on the big block side and opposing their deal alienates them.  He's right though that we still need to run our Classic nodes but as a deal enforcement mechanism. You know damn well Core will renege if we don't have leverage on them.

I'm just wondering how Back is going to sell this to the true believers without have them ragequit.  They see themselves as making a principled stand on engineering integrity. They are, but they also don't understand that it doesn't matter.  A top security network isn't possible as long as majority hashpower is concentrated in China.  A value network, not a quality network is our only option.

now we fully understand why we need at least 1 competing impl.

Competing implementations that didn't threaten to break the protocol would be nice.

Am I asking too much?

Yes. An empty threat is worthless. 

[BlindMayorBitcorn]

The threat would be the change in management. Seems like that ought to be enough.

[Cconvert2G36]

Competing implementations that didn't threaten to break the protocol would be nice.

Am I asking too much?

Shouldn't we just call them competing deferential to The One True Consensus implementations, then?

[blunderer]

...
I'm just wondering how Back is going to sell this to the true believers without have them ragequit.
...

This very question was posed by, and, in turn, confounded The Nuns in The Sound of Music.

How do you solve a problem like Maria?
How do you catch a cloud and pin it down?
How do you find the word that means Maria?
A flibbertijibbet! A will-o'-the wisp! A clown!

Many a thing you know you'd like to tell her
Many a thing she ought to understand
But how do you make her stay and listen to all you say
How do you keep a wave upon the sand?

Oh, how do you solve a problem like Maria?
How do you hold a moonbeam in your hand?

[BlindMayorBitcorn]

Competing implementations that didn't threaten to break the protocol would be nice.

Am I asking too much?

Shouldn't we just call them competing deferential to The One True Consensus implementations, then?

 

[billyjoeallen]

The threat would be the change in management. Seems like that ought to be enough.

There is going to be a change in management no matter what. Wladimir's insistence on near unanimity means Core will not ratify this agreement under current rules. If they stick with the rules, Core itself is out on it's ass. 

Blocks are full now. This needs to happen toot sweet or we face either stagnation or network congestion failure.  Core had time to deal wit this. they squandered it.  Now they are under the gun and have no one to blame but themselves. 

[adamstgBit]

the devs have little choice but cater to the miners, and the miners have little choice to cater to the users.