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Question: How far will this leg take us?
$110K - 9 (8.3%)
$120K - 19 (17.6%)
$130K - 17 (15.7%)
$140K - 9 (8.3%)
$150K - 19 (17.6%)
$160K - 2 (1.9%)
$170K+ - 33 (30.6%)
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June 17, 2016, 10:55:34 PM

For the last three weekends we have seen an amazing increase in the bitcoin price. I hope this fourth weekend will be not an exception and perhaps we will see a potential break of the $800 level for the first time in several months. $850 seems a good target for this weekend.
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June 17, 2016, 11:11:24 PM


Earwig. Low.

Some Hobular manoeuvring has started.
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June 17, 2016, 11:46:37 PM

When lambies tell you to buy... im getting cold feet now Sad
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June 18, 2016, 12:03:21 AM

I got this email from a merchant telling me to buy their product with Bitcoin because it's in a Chinese commodity bubble. What a way to get a bitcoiner to not buy your product.
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June 18, 2016, 12:04:14 AM

How much fiat will it take to get us to $3k?
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June 18, 2016, 12:05:51 AM

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June 18, 2016, 12:14:11 AM

is this upcoming auction going to have much of an effect?
i'm just curious as to what you guys think as i dont see it mentioned much in here...
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/05/30/australia-to-auction-115-million-confiscated-bitcoins.html
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June 18, 2016, 12:14:43 AM

How much fiat will it take to get us to $3k?

2 billion
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June 18, 2016, 12:19:36 AM

How much fiat will it take to get us to $3k?

2 billion

In all seriousness this is an interesting question that is very complex and difficult to accurately answer.
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June 18, 2016, 12:27:43 AM

is this upcoming auction going to have much of an effect?
i'm just curious as to what you guys think as i dont see it mentioned much in here...
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/05/30/australia-to-auction-115-million-confiscated-bitcoins.html

nice pump and dump the day of or after.
past auctions have pumped prices and then after price got dumped
but that was during a bear market.
This isn't a huge amount of coins ( its like half the size of the ?3? FBI auction ) so it might just lead to good press and not much else.

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June 18, 2016, 12:38:20 AM

How much fiat will it take to get us to $3k?

2 billion

In all seriousness this is an interesting question that is very complex and difficult to accurately answer.

agreed its totally unclear.
i see that on very high volume weeks we see like 300million dollars traded on bitfinex
but probably like 90% of that volume isn't fresh fiat getting injected its just traders trading with other traders reusing the same old coins and dollars for a long time.
its probably theoretically possible for price to run to 3000$ with 0 fresh dollars being injected.
if traders are super bullish for some reason price will simply float up, even without fresh fiat.
actually i think that generally what happens, traders push price high up, and THEN the fresh fiat comes in.



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June 18, 2016, 12:45:57 AM


There is not a lot of visible buy support and it could potentially flash crash on a low volume,  unless there are a lot of hidden orders.  However,  lately these books aren't nearly as reliable as they used to be and only serve as a partial indicator.

Watch out - order books are just about the most unrealiable indicator known to man for guaging demand.

Here's how they work:

[1] - if the market thinks the price is going to rise (doesn't have to be bullish sentiment, just expecting a rise)

Then the bids will thin out and the asks will thicken. This is because real demand goes off-order-book since nobody wants to push the price up more than they have to by placing orders so buyers stay hidden since they are not confident of having their orders filled below the spread gap.

Meanwhile, sellers DO place their orders at a measured distance above the spread gap so that they catch any spikes which lets them instantly cycle back into the market minutes later having accumulated at the back end of the spike.

[2] - if the market thinks the price is going to fall

Then exactly the opposite happens. The bids fill up and the asks thin out because fear has set in and sellers are nervous of placing orders that chase away precious liquidity, so sellers stay off-order-book this time. Meanwhile, large bids get placed a reasonable distance below the spread gap to catch any major dumps. Those large bids are not from people wanting to buy into the market (i.e. they are not genuine demand). They are "quick buck" operators who will immediately sell into the rise that follows the spikey plunge.

If the order book is balance, then the market is neutral in terms of expectation.

You can see this in realtime on Huobi in Bitcoinwisdom. As soon as the slightest small bull rally takes off, massive asks get instantly placed at intervals above the price, even though the price is rising. Then they get pulled just as the price approaches when there's no longer enough of a spread gap to turn the trade around and get back in with an accumulation.

So don't think for a minute that because there's a lot of bids that means there's a lot of demand or because there's a lot if asks there's a lot of bears. It's more likely that the exact opposite applies.


Thank you for this. Enlightening stuff!  Kiss
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June 18, 2016, 12:57:42 AM

XBT provider taken over by Global Advisors. That's a neat little turn.

http://bravenewcoin.com/news/global-advisors-acquired-xbt-provider-after-knc-miner-filed-for-bankruptcy/
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June 18, 2016, 01:32:18 AM

Say goodbye to the Earthlings b/c we'll be bouncing hard
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June 18, 2016, 02:18:17 AM

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Do you have like $5,000,000 of USD waiting to buy or something?
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Do you have like $5,000,000 of USD waiting to buy or something?

Who here doesn't?
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