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[gembitz]

The damage is already done, there will be now 42 million bitcoins, exchanges and merchants are already scrambling to deal with it.

Using bitcoin.com as a source for its FUD material is exactly what a Monero shill would do.

I'm glad I don't live in your world. Monero is what Bitcoin was suppose to be.

I was against any kind of HFs unless the 2x part is not honored by the Core supporters. I don't view it as a good news at all, its worse than the UASF movement because they are actually forking away from hard earned consensus before the time to rightfully do so.

Also, what is wrong with bitcoin.com?

bitcoin.com is the site of Roger Ver, who owns ViaBTC, which launchs Bitcoin Cash. So, a bit biased, don't you think?

Bitcoin Cash is NOT a HF of Bitcoin.

Monero is ok for what it is (anonymous cash tx's)... for some reason it is #5 in my portfolio but it isnt nor intends to be a store of value.

he should have stuck to bitcoin fireworks! lol    haa

[suzanne5223]

Please let me know when this thread gets back to discussing Bitcoin again...

Bitcoin Cash BCC
Peer-to-Peer Electronic Cash
https://www.bitcoincash.org/

On August 1st 2017, We the People will breathe new life into Bitcoin.
Fork Date: 2017-08-01  12:20 p.m. UTC

Bitcoin Cash (Futures) (BCC)
$509.62
https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin-cash/

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2040221.0

How many forks are planned ?

 

Really???

So the nightmare of August 1 is not over? Probably the price of bitcoin will fall on August 1

Yes, some dumps will happen when it Aug 1 because some people don't really have knowledge about the BIP. So therefore, there  is chance for the price to go side ways and if you check closely the price per bitcoin increase despite the fact that the market stock are closed for the weekend.

[gembitz]

Please let me know when this thread gets back to discussing Bitcoin again...

Bitcoin Cash BCC
Peer-to-Peer Electronic Cash
https://www.bitcoincash.org/

On August 1st 2017, We the People will breathe new life into Bitcoin.
Fork Date: 2017-08-01  12:20 p.m. UTC

Bitcoin Cash (Futures) (BCC)
$509.62
https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin-cash/

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2040221.0

How many forks are planned ?

BCC looks like a winner to me. Wish I wasn't an American citizen so I could bet on it.

LOL you beat me to it ===> BitcoinCash(china)  ~ dont you read chinese nuespaper?

[sirazimuth]

It's funny to read people speculate about how Bitcoin would look like if mining was fairer when its happening right now with Monero: https://boards.4chan.org/g/thread/61488992#p61492245

that thread is incomprehensible. what does it mean?

and i thought it was just me...

[steelboy]

Ok, here's a question.

When BCC splits off we all have the same amount of BCC and BTC. If I have my coins safe on paper wallets how do I go about sweeping the private key of my BCC to dump without making the cold wallets for my BTC no longer cold as I have entered the private key on an online computer?

[gembitz]

It's funny to read people speculate about how Bitcoin would look like if mining was fairer when its happening right now with Monero: https://boards.4chan.org/g/thread/61488992#p61492245

that thread is incomprehensible. what does it mean?

and i thought it was just me...

you can rent a missile silo with bitcoin?    that's epic* 

[gembitz]

Ok, here's a question.

When BCC splits off we all have the same amount of BCC and BTC. If I have my coins safe on paper wallets how do I go about sweeping the private key of my BCC to dump without making the cold wallets for my BTC no longer cold as I have entered the private key on an online computer?

~when we dump our BCC... lol     = btc to $3200+

[bitserve]

Ok, here's a question.

When BCC splits off we all have the same amount of BCC and BTC. If I have my coins safe on paper wallets how do I go about sweeping the private key of my BCC to dump without making the cold wallets for my BTC no longer cold as I have entered the private key on an online computer?

You can't. You will need to enter the private keys into a computer... you could do it on a secure isolated one and then copy the signed tx's over to another connected one.... But that's a lot off hassle.

That's why I always recommend EVERYONE to buy a hardware wallet. Life is easy and wonderful since I did, and it has allowed me to safely participate on several coin airdrops which by itself is worth a bunch of hardware wallets.

[BitcoinNewsMagazine]

Ok, here's a question.

When BCC splits off we all have the same amount of BCC and BTC. If I have my coins safe on paper wallets how do I go about sweeping the private key of my BCC to dump without making the cold wallets for my BTC no longer cold as I have entered the private key on an online computer?

You have to sweep your paper wallet private keys into a local wallet on your computer that supports both chains and will give you an equal amount of BTC and BCC. That solution does not exist yet though. Stay tuned. If you already have your bitcoin on a Ledger Nano S or Trezor they will most likely support both chains. Electrum may also.

[gembitz]

Ok, here's a question.

When BCC splits off we all have the same amount of BCC and BTC. If I have my coins safe on paper wallets how do I go about sweeping the private key of my BCC to dump without making the cold wallets for my BTC no longer cold as I have entered the private key on an online computer?

You have to sweep your paper wallet private keys into a local wallet on your computer that supports both chains and will give you an equal amount of BTC and BCC. That solution does not exist yet though. Stay tuned. If you already have your bitcoin on a Ledger Nano S or Trezor they will most likely support both chains. Electrum may also.

so you essentially give your private keys up na im good

[El duderino_]

Final list:
20/07 Siggy 
21/07 Mr Frog 
22/07 Protokol 
23/07 Bitcoinaire 
24/07 Lost_in_base
25/07 rjclarke2000
26/07 Globbo
27/07 Poolminor
28/07 TeeBone
29/07 Ted E. Bear
30/07 bathy
31/07 Infofront
01/08 Vin
02/08 Steelboy
03/08 D_eddie
04/08 Bitserve
05/08 Bikerleszno
06/08 Last of the v8s
07/08 Pajulapoiss
08/08 Imbatman
09/08 Mikenz
10/08 Machasm
11/08 Aesma
12/08 doc12
13/08 Fluidjax
14/08 ShroomsKit_Disgrace
15/08 Fragout
16/08 Orpington
17/08 sirazimuth
18/08 Ivomm
19/08 Elwar
20/08 Oblox
21/08 Haciendo
22/08 Boba
23/08 ErisDiscordia
24/08 Ludwig Von
25/08 Hazukison
26/08 SportbetMaster
27/08 Nanobtc
28/08 Vamos1
29/08 Paashaas
30/08 RayX12
31/08 BinaryReign
02/09 Patrisorvieto
05/09 Entons
06/09 Oinas
09/09 Edgar
11/09 Buwaytress
15/09 MinermanNC
17/09 Spaceman_spiff
21/09 undeadbitcoiner
01/10 K.Ehleyr
02/10 Petemoss2
04/10 Herman Hesse
13/10 Cryptoqueen
05/11 Chainsaw
21/11 Icygreen
12/12 Kurious
23/12 Fractaluniverse
14/01/2018 In the silence
05/02/2018 savetherainforest

[marcus_of_augustus]

It's funny to read people speculate about how Bitcoin would look like if mining was fairer when its happening right now with Monero: https://boards.4chan.org/g/thread/61488992#p61492245

that thread is incomprehensible. what does it mean?

... the picture he posted is a diesel back-up generator connected to what looks like a UPS or bank of high voltage power switching cabinets, i.e. transformer ... all in an underground tunnel of some sort ... I guess that's what monero mining looks like, sheesh gullible idiots  

I'm not gonna bother reading the link.

[jbreher]

Via will be left alone with its fake volume halting its users real coins.

To be avoided:
Bitbank Inc.
Bitpoint Japan Co. Ltd.
Quoine Co. Ltd.
Fisco Cryptocurrency Exchange Inc.
Coincheck Co. Ltd.
Btc Box Co. Ltd.
Tech Bureau Co. Ltd. (Zaif Exchange)
GMO-Z.com Coin Co. Ltd.
Campfire Corporation
Bit Trade Co. Ltd.
Bitcrements Bitcoin Exchange
Tokyo Bitcoin Co. Ltd.
Minnano Bitcoin

The cognitive dissonance is strong with this one. In what way is having no fewer than the thirteen other exchanges you list definable as 'alone'?

[BlindMayorBitcorn]

As if anons give a shit about crypto. Kek

[marcus_of_augustus]

I'm not gonna bother reading the link.

Another old-timer who couldn’t bother to read/understand the link. At least you were honest.

there was nothing to read/understand ... you posted a half-baked photo but didn't have anything mining specific in it, why waste time on idiots?

Next thing you know the guy is running a 'crowd sale' ICO cloud mining or presales for mining rental token contracts or some other such scam based on a glitzy looking photo.

It's really getting a lot like gold miners ... what's that saying about liars standing over holes?

Scams are getting old dude, if you want to suck up to Jihan and pump for the scammy miners go for it. Don't try to sell it as something big, shiny and new.

[jbreher]

Roger Ver, who owns ViaBTC

Got any evidence to go with that assertion?

Bitcoin Cash is NOT a HF of Bitcoin.

By any sane definition, Bitcoin Cash is exactly a hard fork of the Bitcoin blockchain.

[jbreher]

BCC looks like a winner to me. Wish I wasn't an American citizen so I could bet on it.

I think you'll get your chance. I'm guessing some US-accessible exchanges will list it within a day or three.

[jbreher]

Ok, here's a question.

When BCC splits off we all have the same amount of BCC and BTC. If I have my coins safe on paper wallets how do I go about sweeping the private key of my BCC to dump without making the cold wallets for my BTC no longer cold as I have entered the private key on an online computer?

I don't think you can. But what would be the point of so doing? Just wait until you eventually want to spend some, then split it at that time.

[marcus_of_augustus]

Roger Ver, who owns ViaBTC

Got any evidence to go with that assertion?

Bitcoin Cash is NOT a HF of Bitcoin.

By any sane definition, Bitcoin Cash is exactly a hard fork of the Bitcoin blockchain.

Here to pump an altcoin bear? ... things must be getting pretty sad in the anti-core camp?

[bitserve]

Roger Ver, who owns ViaBTC

Got any evidence to go with that assertion?

Bitcoin Cash is NOT a HF of Bitcoin.

By any sane definition, Bitcoin Cash is exactly a hard fork of the Bitcoin blockchain.

Evidence? Not really, but I would be very surprised it isn't the case. Anyways, the point was Bitcoin.com is a biased news source about this issues, can we agree on that even if you share that same bias?

About the HF... so they are going to replicate the blockchain and then change a lot of rules and divert some (undetermined) hashrate to mine on that.... It is not exactly as if Bitcoin forked. It is an altcoin since its very inception and I think that is the only good thing they are doing about it. It would be irresponsible if it were a real HF more so after an agreement and even reaching 100% consensus on BTC.

If you mean it "forks" from a copy of the Bitcoin blockchain, well, yeah.

P.S.: WHY do you think "Bitcoin cash" is good for Bitcoin holders? I am talking mainly about PRICE impact here.