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August 15, 2017, 07:57:56 AM

It's very frustrating! Why isn't there new ATH today? Is Bitcoin dead?
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August 15, 2017, 08:19:23 AM

I'm about 92% bitcoin and 8% hedge (give or take 1% because sometimes it becomes a bit difficult to recalculate with the price moving around so much and also real life issues also "getting in the way"), and fuck at these 65%+ gains in two weeks on top of previous gains in recent times, even 8%, adds up to a lot of fiat sitting on the sidelines.  but that is o.k... I don't really feel an urge to cash out more or to buy for that matter - however, if the price were to shoot up to $9k within about a few weeks, I might consider taking some drastic selling measures (emphasizing "might")   Cheesy   Cheesy

I like your method of selling small amounts at set price intervals. And paying very little attention to that voice that inevitably will say: damn, I shoulda bought more here, sold some there. We all know it's going up long term but short term predictions just cannot be relied upon.

These days, I try to be like a bot, mostly because it seems that whenever I attempt to deviate from my plan I end up over-doing it in one direction or another, and then I am kicking myself trying to make up for the lost territory.

My only deviation would be if it is clearly going parabolic, then maybe sell a little more than planned.

I still do that from time to time with a small percentage of my holdings on one end or another - so far, such deviation does not happen too often... because if I try to do it too much, my ratios tend to get mixed up... then I start to get stressed out.. which I would rather not need to think about the matter too much.

By the way, I am actually really glad because in the sub $1500s I was trading in $20 increments, and then I graduated to $50 increments, and I just graduated to $100 increments - and actually if I am in the new bigger category for long enough, then I make it retroactive, so I go back and reset all my buy orders, all the way down to $2k, for example, in $100 increments (rather than their prior $50 increments).  I am looking forward to $200 increments, which is probably going to go into effect around $6k (that is if we get there?  hopefully, right?).



Especially if masterluc is calling the top. But even then, I wouldn't deviate much from the plan. Even the master can be wrong.

You are correct that sometimes there is a kind of confluence of events that make it pretty likely for one direction or another, and I tend to only tweak rather than to make major overhauls and part of it has to do with my comfort of my own holdings, so for example, if I am feeling especially bullish, and like I already have plenty of cash, I might decide to sell .18btc every $100 rather than .2BTC - or some other variation, but those tweaks are only on the margins, and they tend to be pretty profitable in the longer term, so when I project ahead through my excel charts, I can see that my holdings of both fiat and BTC are increasing, even without investing more. 

And, almost no leverage at all - except for using a little bit of float from 0% credit cards.. but I do not gamble with my cc float because the money continues to be there to be able to pay it back, and I don't break certain cashflow boundaries including living expenses and the expected unexpected expenses that are part of any strong cashflow cushioning strategy that should project at least 6 months into the future (projecting worse case scenarios of drying up cashflow), though these days, my cashflow projections tend to project at least 18 months into the future.
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August 15, 2017, 08:30:39 AM

That was an awesome ride to watch in hindsight. I wonder whether we will break $4500 today. It seems that this bull run is stronger than anything we've seen in quite some time.

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It's very frustrating! Why isn't there new ATH today? Is Bitcoin dead?
Relax mister bee. Slow and steady is best.
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August 15, 2017, 08:34:01 AM

Profit taking or dumping at the moment?
Was 4400 the top or is there any more steam left in this bull?


Hard to say. This is unknown territory and whatever we say could be completely wrong.
If this should be the top, then so be it. Some correction isn't that bad.
The bull run isn't over yet. But maybe we need a break, charging batteries, before continuing the journey to the moon.
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August 15, 2017, 08:34:30 AM

Buy at 4208, sell at 4260, miss the 4230 bottom, look at the Bitstamp wall getting eaten and the price rocketing upwards.
Holding is hard. Buying after a missed target too. Still in USD  Cry
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August 15, 2017, 08:40:12 AM

Holding is the easiest thing to do, cold storage = no temptation.

Stress = 0
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August 15, 2017, 08:49:47 AM

We are reaching $4500 easy this weekend or today, it is my first time to see bitcoin rise its value like this
No s slots for crash the bitcoin seats ony go up and up.
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August 15, 2017, 08:59:00 AM

Holding is the easiest thing to do, cold storage = no temptation.

Stress = 0

Except....someday I need to move my private keys to get my Bitcoin cash...but with Bitcoin core's 15.0
version stopping anything with the 2+mb fork...(looking at 3 forks then) ..in a month and 1/2 it could get
interesting ...with MORE FUD drama if Bitcoin core continues to stop the +2mb hard fork....or just tries to...

So hell, just leaving it ride....and not messing with moving Bitcoin Classic to Bitcoin mainstay makes more sense

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of course, it is frigging $4,300 bucks !!!! as we speak !!!! (no stress in that right...hands shaking, throat dry....)

be careful what you wish for.....everyone wishes for MOON but they forget about the stress and acceleration (and the fear of blowing up)

on takeoff! Smiley

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August 15, 2017, 09:10:24 AM

...with MORE FUD drama if Bitcoin core continues to stop the +2mb hard fork....or just tries to...

Core devs have no intention of stopping the 2mb fork. Core just won't join it. Everybody is free to make any fork they like. There isn't any drama. More free money for bitcoin hodlers. How can that be a bad thing?
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August 15, 2017, 09:15:20 AM

Holding is the easiest thing to do, cold storage = no temptation.

Stress = 0

^^^^^
This

HODL until after the next halving, it's such a simple way to make a lot of money. Small profits are pointless, you get burned more often than not trying to trade.

HODL until after the next halving.
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August 15, 2017, 09:39:37 AM

...with MORE FUD drama if Bitcoin core continues to stop the +2mb hard fork....or just tries to...

Core devs have no intention of stopping the 2mb fork. Core just won't join it. Everybody is free to make any fork they like. There isn't any drama. More free money for bitcoin hodlers. How can that be a bad thing?


The more chains we have mining the same algorithm the easier it becomes for a miner to mount a double spend attack (or in the case of a segwit chain to steal the segwit coins). By moving hashpower between chains they can conceal how much they control and from there attack whichever chain they choose. Any attack which results in "stolen" coins will damage the value of all crypto. Add to that the implied risk from a direct attack on segwit in order to promote "The Real Bitcoin" and the situation is dangerous at the moment. A large attack on Bitcoin security now with prices at these levels will garner massive negative media publicity and probably instigate a bear market the likes of which we have never seen across all cryptocurrency.
Those playing the twenty year game and their masters will buy all the coins they can once the price is crushed, but Bitcoin, segwit, ethereum etc will all be done and dusted for five years plus
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August 15, 2017, 09:40:47 AM

Correction imminent or just a big dump from someone?
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August 15, 2017, 09:47:01 AM



Target price 1 BTC = $9840... The Silver Eagle monster box:

500-Coin Silver American Eagle Monster Box (Sealed) / Any Qty: $9,840.00

Cool

.. useless box ... sell this sh_t for bitcoin

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August 15, 2017, 09:55:14 AM

It's very frustrating! Why isn't there new ATH today? Is Bitcoin dead?


Crypto's done!!
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August 15, 2017, 09:59:00 AM

It's very frustrating! Why isn't there new ATH today? Is Bitcoin dead?


Crypto's done!!

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August 15, 2017, 10:02:11 AM

Correction imminent or just a big dump from someone?

Damn, I hope not too much of a correction. Definitely been a dump though, down to $4100 on Stamp. I hope $4000 holds.
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August 15, 2017, 10:14:02 AM

Thor´s hammer!!
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August 15, 2017, 10:17:59 AM

Damn iT wont hold the $4000
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August 15, 2017, 10:18:46 AM

...with MORE FUD drama if Bitcoin core continues to stop the +2mb hard fork....or just tries to...

Core devs have no intention of stopping the 2mb fork. Core just won't join it. Everybody is free to make any fork they like. There isn't any drama. More free money for bitcoin hodlers. How can that be a bad thing?


The more chains we have mining the same algorithm the easier it becomes for a miner to mount a double spend attack (or in the case of a segwit chain to steal the segwit coins).

You definitely don't understand what you're talking about. The rest is just wishful thinking.
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