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[JimboToronto]

Well good morning Bitcoinland.

Seems that the little FUD-induced beartrap is closing... $4055USD/$4945CAD (Bitcoinaverage) after hitting a bit of resistance at $4.1k.

All cryptos are also up with AltcoinCash currently at $469USD/$572CAD (Coinmarketcap).

Remember when China seemed so important?

[Torque]

My coworkers want me to sell too. I have told them that my goal is to leave them fending for themselves while spending my days drinking mojitos on a beach, but they don't understand, they don't believe it's possible.

It's like the whole world has been gaslighted into believing that if an investment goes up you should immediately sell it, and if you don't then you're an idiot. Never mind the fact that the truly wealthy people of the world never exhibit such short-sighted behavior. It's no wonder that most people are poor.

[aesma]

Wish I'd gone for a bit closer to the current date on the prize bounty, new ATH game. Oh well, I'm happy any way that the price has recovered so well after China news. I wonder how many people here got absolutely ruined shorting?

I don't think most people here are shorting, at least not big amounts compared to their stash.

I wonder how many people in general sold the dump and are now feeling very bad about themselves.

[bahty]

I don't know Why but i Just want to make same ATH guess like last time
Rules ....: the one  with the right date of ATH gets .25 btc paid directly  (UTC time)    (closest to ATH.....)
I look to Every page in here from now When a date is picked first iT cannot been taken again ( 1st =1st)
Another .25 btc is rewarded for ho makes best of technical analyse of the time When we strike ATH.... and Why iT happens at that time.....
So This .25 also only to been payed 1 time .... and not 2 times te same explanation.... (1st =1st)

Both answers to win must been inside before 20-09-2017
Goodluck to the ones that like This 

UPDATE listmaking                 notice a * is when the person put good enough explanation for other .25 BTC  (person with no * only play ATH or have to put little better )

19/9 rayx12
25/9 binaryreign*
28/9 khufuking
29/9 jhayzxenon*
30/9 yermom
03/10 ^BuTcH^
04/10 minermannc
05/10 punisher1314*
07/10 player514*
09/10 Oinas*
10/10 bikerlezno*     LAST WINNER
11/10 ted e. bare
12/10 harrymmmm*
13/10 cryptoqueeen*
14/10 bitcoinaire*
15/10 ludwigvon*
16/11 Heater*
17/10 shroomskit_disgrace
18/10 dakustaking76
19/10 birobob*
20/10 leowonderful
21/10 paashaas
22/10 cmacwiz*
23/10 spaceman_spiff_original*
24/10 colonel panic
25/10 soullyG
26/10 weltmaster*
28/10 entons*
29/10 roombot*
30/10 notme*
31/10 twocorn
01/11 YamashitaRen
02/11 orpington
03/11 Haciendo*
04/11 lilloboy
05/11 jojo69*
06/11 d_eddie*
07/11 empowering*
08/11 northyplole*
09/11 podyx*
10/11 u9y42*
11/11 starving_marvin
12/11 sirazimuth*
13/11 dotto*
14/11 hazukison*
15/11 organic*
17/11 foxygoxy*
18/11 600watt
19/11 arriemoller
20/11 drbrockcoin*
22/11 rakessh
21/11 icygreen*
23/11 erisdiscordia
24/11 oblox*
25/11 mfort312*
26/11 globbo*
27/11 lfc_bitcoin
28/11 [Suspicious link removed]*
29/11 rjclarck2000
30/11 last of the v8s *
01/12 newworldcoiner*
02/12 souspeed*
03/12 jaapgvk
04/12 sgk*
05/12 fluidjax
08/12 imbatman
09/12 yonton
10/12 fragout*
11/12 itod
12/12 lontonbit*
13/12 CistaCista
14/12 cAPSLOCK
15/12 philivey
16/12 marcus_of_augustus*
17/12 mattimann
18/12 coincube*
24/12 bones261*
26/12 karatma1*
28/12 deathangel*
30/12 erre
31/12 elwar
01/01/2018 lewis pirenne*
02/01/2018 addressed*
18/01/2018 raja_mbz*
21/12 2dogs
22/01/2018 _javi_
26/01/2018 kurious*
28/01/2018 steelboy*
29/01/2018 alcohodl
01/02/2018 cristitcm
18/02/2018 in the silence
20/04/2018 fractal universe*
15/05/2018 oldtimegin*
15/06/2018 samson
16/08/2018 samarkand

hope to still got  everybody    LIST IS GROWING NICELY   ( hope to be sending BTC soooooon  )

I would like to pick 27/9
We just had two weekly red candles (historically significant), confidence has returned to the market after the China news, we're less than 10% away from resistance at 4400 (USD) I give 5 business days to recharge fiat in trading accounts and then new ATH.

please kindly put me down for 16/11/17 goossens, thanks mate

[empowering]

.....meanwhile back in the valley


https://developers.google.com/web/fundamentals/discovery-and-monetization/payment-request/deep-dive-into-payment-request

[jbreher]

.....meanwhile back in the valley

https://developers.google.com/web/fundamentals/discovery-and-monetization/payment-request/deep-dive-into-payment-request

What's the relevance? No crypto support that I can detect:

You can pass in any three characters and it will be treated as a valid currency code.The reason for this is that it allows support for future currencies. For example, Bitcoin can be supported with its currency code 'XBT'.

[empowering]

.....meanwhile back in the valley

https://developers.google.com/web/fundamentals/discovery-and-monetization/payment-request/deep-dive-into-payment-request

What's the relevance? No crypto support that I can detect:

You can pass in any three characters and it will be treated as a valid currency code.The reason for this is that it allows support for future currencies. For example, Bitcoin can be supported with its currency code 'XBT'.

you just twisted my brain into a knot

[cAPSLOCK]

I was thinking phone apps.

I would never keep more than a few hundreds $ in crypto on a smartphone. My favorite option is encrypted volumes and files on linux only.
Phones look like some security hazard walking.

Look like?

We have never seen as a race an information security hazard larger than the cellphone.

[JimboToronto]

I don't know Why but i Just want to make same ATH guess like last time
Rules ....: the one  with the right date of ATH gets .25 btc paid directly  (UTC time)    (closest to ATH.....)
I look to Every page in here from now When a date is picked first iT cannot been taken again ( 1st =1st)
Another .25 btc is rewarded for ho makes best of technical analyse of the time When we strike ATH.... and Why iT happens at that time.....
So This .25 also only to been payed 1 time .... and not 2 times te same explanation.... (1st =1st)

Both answers to win must been inside before 20-09-2017
Goodluck to the ones that like This 

UPDATE listmaking                 notice a * is when the person put good enough explanation for other .25 BTC  (person with no * only play ATH or have to put little better )

19/9 rayx12
25/9 binaryreign*
28/9 khufuking
29/9 jhayzxenon*
30/9 yermom
03/10 ^BuTcH^
04/10 minermannc
05/10 punisher1314*
07/10 player514*
09/10 Oinas*
10/10 bikerlezno*     LAST WINNER
11/10 ted e. bare
12/10 harrymmmm*
13/10 cryptoqueeen*
14/10 bitcoinaire*
15/10 ludwigvon*
16/11 Heater*
17/10 shroomskit_disgrace
18/10 dakustaking76
19/10 birobob*
20/10 leowonderful
21/10 paashaas
22/10 cmacwiz*
23/10 spaceman_spiff_original*
24/10 colonel panic
25/10 soullyG
26/10 weltmaster*
28/10 entons*
29/10 roombot*
30/10 notme*
31/10 twocorn
01/11 YamashitaRen
02/11 orpington
03/11 Haciendo*
04/11 lilloboy
05/11 jojo69*
06/11 d_eddie*
07/11 empowering*
08/11 northyplole*
09/11 podyx*
10/11 u9y42*
11/11 starving_marvin
12/11 sirazimuth*
13/11 dotto*
14/11 hazukison*
15/11 organic*
17/11 foxygoxy*
18/11 600watt
19/11 arriemoller
20/11 drbrockcoin*
22/11 rakessh
21/11 icygreen*
23/11 erisdiscordia
24/11 oblox*
25/11 mfort312*
26/11 globbo*
27/11 lfc_bitcoin
28/11 conspirosphere.tk*
29/11 rjclarck2000
30/11 last of the v8s *
01/12 newworldcoiner*
02/12 souspeed*
03/12 jaapgvk
04/12 sgk*
05/12 fluidjax
08/12 imbatman
09/12 yonton
10/12 fragout*
11/12 itod
12/12 lontonbit*
13/12 CistaCista
14/12 cAPSLOCK
15/12 philivey
16/12 marcus_of_augustus*
17/12 mattimann
18/12 coincube*
24/12 bones261*
26/12 karatma1*
28/12 deathangel*
30/12 erre
31/12 elwar
01/01/2018 lewis pirenne*
02/01/2018 addressed*
18/01/2018 raja_mbz*
21/12 2dogs
22/01/2018 _javi_
26/01/2018 kurious*
28/01/2018 steelboy*
29/01/2018 alcohodl
01/02/2018 cristitcm
18/02/2018 in the silence
20/04/2018 fractal universe*
15/05/2018 oldtimegin*
15/06/2018 samson
16/08/2018 samarkand

hope to still got  everybody    LIST IS GROWING NICELY   ( hope to be sending BTC soooooon  )

OK You finally got me to play.  I'll take Oct 2, 2017.

Why? If all 3 major Chinese exchanges announcing shutdowns didn't slow the recovery from the September beartrap/correction/panic, nothing will. I figure it'll take about 2 weeks and I'll take the Monday.

[Icygreen]

Nice one Jimbo, I was just having similar thoughts this morning and yes, what resilience there is. 
Looks like 4k will be a new floor soon. 

[Asrael999]

*sigh*
More PBoC FUD.
And down she goes...

Source please?

https://www.wsj.com/articles/china-widens-bitcoin-crackdown-beyond-commercial-trading-1505733976?mod=e2tw

Going to go with "so the f*ck what" and "good luck with that"

[JimboToronto]

*sigh*
More PBoC FUD.
And down she goes...

Source please?

https://www.wsj.com/articles/china-widens-bitcoin-crackdown-beyond-commercial-trading-1505733976?mod=e2tw

Going to go with "so the f*ck what" and "good luck with that"

How many times does China have to "ban Bitcoin" before there's nobody left to give a f*ck.

[empowering]

.....meanwhile back in the valley

https://developers.google.com/web/fundamentals/discovery-and-monetization/payment-request/deep-dive-into-payment-request

What's the relevance? No crypto support that I can detect:

You can pass in any three characters and it will be treated as a valid currency code.The reason for this is that it allows support for future currencies. For example, Bitcoin can be supported with its currency code 'XBT'.

..........

The relevance is newly developed payment request API being deployed - W3C  has been working on it for some time (since 2013) It will improve checkouts - and be usable and inter-operable across all major browsers- and in app social media platform browsers....in a push towards standardising payment methods - a push towards currency agnostic web payment standard to streamline checkout and user experience... and seeing as BTC is touted as a means of sending value online-  it is relevant.. its Bitcoin- its Google-its W3C it Chrome, Edge Firefox-facebook its the fricken internet. The fact they even use XBT as an example is enough- but the I hope understood implication of "build it and they will come" should make sense to you...

Do you honestly think they decided to simply use XBT as an example for no reason..?  methinks not.

Sure as  of today right this second -it doesn't mean much- but the implication is obvious? non?

Today - right now does it allow for receiving BTC payments using the payment request API- no.. (well yes actually, people just need to start coding and integrating it;) but will it in say 6-9 months have been rolled out- yes I believe so!!  - this has just been released as a stable build expect coders to code and businesses to integrate.. and as it has the capability to support "future currencies" whaddya suppose they are referring to? SDR's? (lol)

It is just another step towards mainstream and ubiquity and general acceptance.

I thought a cryptocurrency thread was a relevant enough place for it - outside of a google developers forum-maybe its just me?

[Asrael999]

Going to go with "so the f*ck what" and "good luck with that"

Hey, I'm a long HODLer. I'm just sayin', these swings be causing really bad gas and stomach cramps. Worse than eating at the DQ in Butte.

I know sir ,
Interesting Survey today lendedu.com/blog/bitcoins-role-in-the-American-economy/

Covered 1000 Americans
78.6% had heard of Bitcoin
10.69% incorrectly believe owning bitcoin is illegal
47.71% weren't sure if owning it was illegal or not
85.37% have never owned bitcoin

So let's get out there and educate our American friends that bitcoin is not and has never been illegal. And get that adoption number up out of the low teens.

[empowering]

Going to go with "so the f*ck what" and "good luck with that"

Hey, I'm a long HODLer. I'm just sayin', these swings be causing really bad gas and stomach cramps. Worse than eating at the DQ in Butte.

I know sir ,
Interesting Survey today lendedu.com/blog/bitcoins-role-in-the-American-economy/

Covered 1000 Americans
78.6% had heard of Bitcoin
10.69% incorrectly believe owning bitcoin is illegal
47.71% weren't sure if owning it was illegal or not
85.37% have never owned bitcoin

So let's get out there and educate our American friends that bitcoin is not and has never been illegal. And get that adoption number up out of the low teens.

If we ever see it ..... K.im ,megaupload2 and Bitcache may bring a little attention amongst the "unbitcoined" demographic....

[Wexlike]

Only 1000 days to go. 

[jbreher]

.....meanwhile back in the valley

https://developers.google.com/web/fundamentals/discovery-and-monetization/payment-request/deep-dive-into-payment-request

What's the relevance? No crypto support that I can detect:

You can pass in any three characters and it will be treated as a valid currency code.The reason for this is that it allows support for future currencies. For example, Bitcoin can be supported with its currency code 'XBT'.

you just twisted my brain into a knot

Why? What they are saying is that Bitcoin is currently 'supported' exactly the same way that any three random characters are 'supported'. How usable is that? Zero. Zero usable. It's a machine with:
a) a gozinta that fits Credit Cards, a gozouta that fits Credit Cards, and machinery that converts that CC  gozinta to a CC gozouta; and
b) a gozinta that fits Bitcoin, with no corresponding gozouta, and no mechanism for converting the Bitcoin gozinta into anything.

Well, I guess it provides some titilation...

[RoomBot]

...If I have a 1 oz gold or silver coin on my table, I can walk down the street and trade it to someone else for goods or services with no middlemen or 3rd party extortion involved.

r0ach loves to keep spouting this. Over and over. But he refuses to ever explain how he intends to transact with someone overseas in another country with PMs and avoid middlemen or 3rd party transfer fees. Or even go to Walmart, Target, or Starbucks and buy something, anything with it without avoiding the exchange into fiat via 3rd party (and thus another fee). Or... or... the fkn list can go on forever.

So I guess all a PM coin is good for is... transacting with your neighbor down the street? If Apocalypse cometh?

Well r0ach? We're still waiting. Oh I know, you'll just go scurrying back into your little hole for a while without answer the question. Once again. 

Stop pretending that gold and silver used in native coin format haven't been used as money for thousands of years.  There's no fucking reason to convert it to fiat.  Even US law states a dollar is still "371.25 grains of pure silver" and that debts are supposed to be settled in only metals.  

The US gold / silver standard was repealed about FORTY YEARS AGO.  U.S. Paper money is backed by....paper.

N00bs.... 

[empowering]

.....meanwhile back in the valley

https://developers.google.com/web/fundamentals/discovery-and-monetization/payment-request/deep-dive-into-payment-request

What's the relevance? No crypto support that I can detect:

You can pass in any three characters and it will be treated as a valid currency code.The reason for this is that it allows support for future currencies. For example, Bitcoin can be supported with its currency code 'XBT'.

you just twisted my brain into a knot

Why? What they are saying is that Bitcoin is currently 'supported' exactly the same way that any three random characters are 'supported'. How usable is that? Zero. Zero usable. It's a machine with:
a) a gozinta that fits Credit Cards, a gozouta that fits Credit Cards, and machinery that converts that CC  gozinta to a CC gozouta; and
b) a gozinta that fits Bitcoin, with no corresponding gozouta, and no mechanism for converting the Bitcoin gozinta into anything.

Well, I guess it provides some titilation...

okey dokey then

(use your imagination... think forward in time)



I need some wood- but all I can see is these fricken' trees.

A step closer to =  https://news.bitcoin.com/bitcoin-one-click-soon-web-standard/  

It is relevant...

And imagine - even BCH will be an option ..... shock horror etc


(TBH W3C even mentioning Bitcoin - far less allowing/encouraging for its integration is kind of a big deal... and this is a milestone towards further mass integration...it is as plain to see as all the wood in that there forest)

[RoomBot]

lmfao ===> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DebXX7naIr8

MaxKeiser is a cuck, I don't understand how anybody can like him. Does nobody remember MaxCoin?

He used to shill MaxCoin constantly on his RT show, sold it for several dollars a unit. It's now 63 satoshi on coinmarketcap.

Anti Keiser Coin https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=491256.0 is basically the same fucking value.

Max's voice is annoying as hell, he's like a loser teenage geek who got a talk show. I don't ever hear him make any interesting points on the rare occasion I listen to his show. There's no Brilliant Intelligence there.

Peter Schiff says at one point "Could Bitcoin drop to $10, $20? Could it go to $10,000 first? Sure!" At least he stands behind his position and puts thought into it, acknowledges room for error.

Max is just a dirty rat with a goofy smile.  

Max Keiser totally tried to hijack Bitcoin with his crappy MAXCoin.

He "launched it" "live" on his show, (JOKE, JOKE) but of course there was a huge pre-mine.

He's funny.  You can laugh with him or laugh at him.  I used to watch the Keiser Report.

Now I just ignore him -- like I'm gonna do with some of these N00BS.