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[cAPSLOCK]

I have both the ledger nano s and the trezor and neither of those wallets support either ETC or Monero.

The Nano S does support ETC. https://www.reddit.com/r/ledgerwallet/comments/6cw1ig/ledger_wallet_etc/

The Ledger Nano S has a Monero wallet currently under development. https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/75w4s4/ledger_hardware_wallet_monero_integration_some/

YOU NEED TO STOP STORING CRYPTO ON EXCHANGES.

How can someone who is as enthusiastic about cryptocurrencies not understand that one of the fundamentally key beauties to cryptocurrency is the ability to take responsibility for managing your own wealth without significant exposure to counter parties?

Ah well... you a thirsty horse, and you are standing on the banks of the Nile...

[Karartma1]

I have both the ledger nano s and the trezor and neither of those wallets support either ETC or Monero.

The Nano S does support ETC. https://www.reddit.com/r/ledgerwallet/comments/6cw1ig/ledger_wallet_etc/

The Ledger Nano S has a Monero wallet currently under development. https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/75w4s4/ledger_hardware_wallet_monero_integration_some/

YOU NEED TO STOP STORING CRYPTO ON EXCHANGES.

How can someone who is as enthusiastic about cryptocurrencies not understand that one of the fundamentally key beauties to cryptocurrency is the ability to take responsibility for managing your own wealth without significant exposure to counter parties?

Ah well... you a thirsty horse, and you are standing on the banks of the Nile...

After Bittrex last move this is the best advice to give to anybody here. You read it on the forum since Mt.Gox: why do we want to use exchanges to store our keys when those keys are our ONLY right towards our coins? Still amazes me!

On a side note, thanks for pointing out those Ledger Nano S/Monero developments. If that happens I am happy guy!

[niners]

Anyone here watch Jordan Peterson?

I do, Why do you ask?

[JayJuanGee]

I have both the ledger nano s and the trezor and neither of those wallets support either ETC or Monero.

The Nano S does support ETC. https://www.reddit.com/r/ledgerwallet/comments/6cw1ig/ledger_wallet_etc/

The Ledger Nano S has a Monero wallet currently under development. https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/75w4s4/ledger_hardware_wallet_monero_integration_some/

YOU NEED TO STOP STORING CRYPTO ON EXCHANGES.

How can someone who is as enthusiastic about cryptocurrencies not understand that one of the fundamentally key beauties to cryptocurrency is the ability to take responsibility for managing your own wealth without significant exposure to counter parties?

Ah well... you a thirsty horse, and you are standing on the banks of the Nile...

Look at you patronizing without really much information except your own judgement.       



Thanks for the links regarding ETC on the ledger nano s, and Monero in development for such device.

[JayJuanGee]

I have both the ledger nano s and the trezor and neither of those wallets support either ETC or Monero.

The Nano S does support ETC. https://www.reddit.com/r/ledgerwallet/comments/6cw1ig/ledger_wallet_etc/

The Ledger Nano S has a Monero wallet currently under development. https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/75w4s4/ledger_hardware_wallet_monero_integration_some/

YOU NEED TO STOP STORING CRYPTO ON EXCHANGES.

How can someone who is as enthusiastic about cryptocurrencies not understand that one of the fundamentally key beauties to cryptocurrency is the ability to take responsibility for managing your own wealth without significant exposure to counter parties?

Ah well... you a thirsty horse, and you are standing on the banks of the Nile...

After Bittrex last move this is the best advice to give to anybody here. You read it on the forum since Mt.Gox: why do we want to use exchanges to store our keys when those keys are our ONLY right towards our coins? Still amazes me!

On a side note, thanks for pointing out those Ledger Nano S/Monero developments. If that happens I am happy guy!

First, what is Bitrex's last move?  second, nobody asked for advice about whether to store on exchanges, but asked about which exchanges are better (and which wallets)  3) again, you do not seem to know shit about my particular diversification or finances or risk profile and probably nothing except possibly you read a few of my posts and assume that you know me and assume that I am overexposed because I have a few alts on an exchange and I want to keep them available and likely on an exchange to be able to liquidate pronto, if I feel necessary 

[rjclarke2000]

Personally I feel far more secure with my Trezor rather than any other way of storing my btc. I don't have a ledger nano but I have also heard good things.

I don't believe one is better than the other (security wise)

I did a lot of research before buying my Trezor. I did not own a Trezor during the last fork so I haven't split my coins on it before so I am hoping it's fairly straight forward.

Again I have seen some YouTube vids on how to split with a Trezor (when BCH fork happened) and once they support the split it looks very easy. Easier than a multitude of paper wallets and transferring coins to new addresses and inputting priv keys into software wallets to claim split coins using a middle man like blockchain.info. That was a ball ache.

[rjclarke2000]

Also who is selling coins now before the 2 forks? What's going on here then?

Fucking whales

[JayJuanGee]

I have both the ledger nano s and the trezor and neither of those wallets support either ETC or Monero.

The Nano S does support ETC. https://www.reddit.com/r/ledgerwallet/comments/6cw1ig/ledger_wallet_etc/

The Ledger Nano S has a Monero wallet currently under development. https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/75w4s4/ledger_hardware_wallet_monero_integration_some/

YOU NEED TO STOP STORING CRYPTO ON EXCHANGES.

How can someone who is as enthusiastic about cryptocurrencies not understand that one of the fundamentally key beauties to cryptocurrency is the ability to take responsibility for managing your own wealth without significant exposure to counter parties?

Ah well... you a thirsty horse, and you are standing on the banks of the Nile...

Look at you patronizing without really much information except your own judgement.       



Thanks for the links regarding ETC on the ledger nano s, and Monero in development for such device.

  You're welcome.  Patronizing? lol.  Whatever. 

You said you store your coins on an exchange for the most part.

This has shown over and over to be dangerous and foolish.

And frankly, it is missing the point.

What was your point?  To lecture?  If I have a ledger nano s and a trezor, then seems like I would have a sufficient quantity of coins there, too, no?  Maybe I have some coins and other value on exchanges for trading?  How is a guy going to trade coins if he does not put some coins (and/or value) on exchanges...   You have no idea regarding my exposure and you are assuming and giving unsolicited advice.. was that your point? 

If your point was to share information about possible places to keep coins, then that was helpful.. but going on an unsolicited lecture still seems quite presumptuous to me and you do seem to be assuming facts that are not in evidence.  no?   

[AlexGR]

Also who is selling coins now before the 2 forks? What's going on here then?

Fucking whales

The major accumulator players are trying to be unpredictable. If their moves are predictable, they'll get others front running their buys... so they have to let it breathe downwards, so that longs don't get comfortable. On the other hand, the accumulators can crush the shorts anytime they click the buy button. But they do need shorts as well in order to provide coins to buy. They let both longs and shorts win a few times and then baaaam, it comes out of nowhere and prices are +500/1000.... lol...

[rjclarke2000]

Also who is selling coins now before the 2 forks? What's going on here then?

Fucking whales

The major accumulator players are trying to be unpredictable. If their moves are predictable, they'll get others front running their buys... so they have to let it breathe downwards, so that longs don't get comfortable. On the other hand, the accumulators can crush the shorts anytime they click the buy button. But they do need shorts as well in order to provide coins to buy. They let both longs and shorts win a few times and then baaaam, it comes out of nowhere and prices are +500/1000.... lol...

Well this makes sense. I don't trade so never look into all this.

[Nam3]

Also who is selling coins now before the 2 forks? What's going on here then?

Fucking whales

Guess we'll never know for sure. It's fucking unpredictable. People were waiting for 6K blast, and here we are  And yea, it's all fucking happening before the 2X shit, if this would have occured after 2X, things would have make more sense. Well, who am I to decide in which direction the market goes, let's sit tight and see where we go from here.

[JayJuanGee]

Also who is selling coins now before the 2 forks? What's going on here then?

Fucking whales

Guess we'll never know for sure. It's fucking unpredictable. People were waiting for 6K blast, and here we are  And yea, it's all fucking happening before the 2X shit, if this would have occured after 2X, things would have make more sense. Well, who am I to decide in which direction the market goes, let's sit tight and see where we go from here.

I don't really consider this current price movement to be much of a bad place, at all.

I mean, a week ago, we really did go from $4,900 to $5,800 in a few hours, and then for the past week we have been dabbling in this $5,300 to $5,800 territory.. Yeah, we want the price to go up, we want it to go up, but gosh, a break in the going up (or a pause) might not be a bad thing - and that is why it is not very easy to predict, whether we get another correction or we proceed with pushing ATHs.

To me it had seemed that we were going to get an ATH  in the early November time frame (which would be preceding the Segwit2x Hardfork) and then we would have some correction around the forktime with FUD and uncertainty and blah blah blah, and then a market-wide realization that bitcoin is resilient to such stupid ass (and ill prepared) renegade hardfork nonsenses, and then another rally to take us to 2x-ish or more.. ...

A problem with my whole theory is that the ATH pushing of last week came too quickly and a bit premature in mid-October, so we have a bit of time to kill.. and to stall.. and we gonna it does not seem to be the right thing to get another ATH and another ATH, and all of these ATHs before mid-November, then that means that the ATH pushes have come to bitcoin too early and have gone too high, and therefore we are likely good to have some coiling and pausing in a $3,800 to $5900 .. and maybe even down to $3600 (like Jojo mentioned) might not be a bad thing.. to help the coiling... and to stave off overinflating too much.

[DaveyJones]

Also who is selling coins now before the 2 forks? What's going on here then?

Fucking whales

Guess we'll never know for sure. It's fucking unpredictable. People were waiting for 6K blast, and here we are   And yea, it's all fucking happening before the 2X shit, if this would have occured after 2X, things would have make more sense. Well, who am I to decide in which direction the market goes, let's sit tight and see where we go from here.

The last time BTC forked the market didnt go down afterwards if i recall correctly, so it is not about making sense at all :p

Also who is selling coins now before the 2 forks? What's going on here then?

Fucking whales

Guess we'll never know for sure. It's fucking unpredictable. People were waiting for 6K blast, and here we are  And yea, it's all fucking happening before the 2X shit, if this would have occured after 2X, things would have make more sense. Well, who am I to decide in which direction the market goes, let's sit tight and see where we go from here.

I don't really consider this current price movement to be much of a bad place, at all.

I mean, a week ago, we really did go from $4,900 to $5,800 in a few hours, and then for the past week we have been dabbling in this $5,300 to $5,800 territory.. Yeah, we want the price to go up, we want it to go up, but gosh, a break in the going up (or a pause) might not be a bad thing - and that is why it is not very easy to predict, whether we get another correction or we proceed with pushing ATHs.

To me it had seemed that we were going to get an ATH  in the early November time frame (which would be preceding the Segwit2x Hardfork) and then we would have some correction around the forktime with FUD and uncertainty and blah blah blah, and then a market-wide realization that bitcoin is resilient to such stupid ass (and ill prepared) renegade hardfork nonsenses, and then another rally to take us to 2x-ish or more.. ...

A problem with my whole theory is that the ATH pushing of last week came too quickly and a bit premature in mid-October, so we have a bit of time to kill.. and to stall.. and we gonna it does not seem to be the right thing to get another ATH and another ATH, and all of these ATHs before mid-November, then that means that the ATH pushes have come to bitcoin too early and have gone too high, and therefore we are likely good to have some coiling and pausing in a $3,800 to $5900 .. and maybe even down to $3600 (like Jojo mentioned) might not be a bad thing.. to help the coiling... and to stave off overinflating too much.

Cannot agree more, also for me that move to 6k territory was too fast and i rather prefered some slower movement esp with yet another fork decision in the neck

[Ibian]

Add another reason to buy metals onto the stack:

What are you (and for that matter, he) even trying to say here?

[Ibian]

Anyone here watch Jordan Peterson?

I do, Why do you ask?

Just curious what kind of overlap there is.

[abercrombie]

is crypto done?? 

https://news.bitcoin.com/bernanke-eventually-governments-will-take-any-action-they-need-to-prevent-bitcoin/

[Nam3]

is crypto done?? 

https://news.bitcoin.com/bernanke-eventually-governments-will-take-any-action-they-need-to-prevent-bitcoin/

Yea, sell your holdings ... RUN!!! they're coming.

[Asrael999]

is crypto done??  

https://news.bitcoin.com/bernanke-eventually-governments-will-take-any-action-they-need-to-prevent-bitcoin/

Yes and so is the Internet, and freedom in general.

EDIT (given the news source I assume when they refer to bitcoin they actually mean BCH)

[vroom]

is crypto done??  

https://news.bitcoin.com/bernanke-eventually-governments-will-take-any-action-they-need-to-prevent-bitcoin/

EDIT (given the news source I assume when they refer to bitcoin they actually mean BCH)

haha, you nailed it

[Last of the V8s]

if your ox is getting gored, it ain't me doing it.

$6100 incoming! TONIGHT!

hmm, cryptic. you bought?