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November 26, 2017, 12:42:32 PM |
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^It's cool. We're not taking any poor people. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Are you as concerned about the hundreds of thousands of miles of ocean front property that aren't cheap? Or just a tiny little floating island that will have no impact upon anyone else? Would you use force to allow poor people to live in ocean front properties? I'm saying, if all this is is just a fork of the current world real estate racket, I don't get the appeal. It is a prototype. The people actually making any decisions about its purpose will not be on Internet websites. They will be living on the seastead working to make it into something bigger.
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November 26, 2017, 12:45:48 PM |
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^It's cool. We're not taking any poor people. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Are you as concerned about the hundreds of thousands of miles of ocean front property that aren't cheap? Or just a tiny little floating island that will have no impact upon anyone else? Would you use force to allow poor people to live in ocean front properties? I'm saying, if all this is is just a fork of the current world real estate racket, I don't get the appeal. It is a prototype. The people actually making any decisions about its purpose will not be on Internet websites. They will be living on the seastead working to make it into something bigger. Suddenly it sounds like a multinational corporation. Nope. Sinister. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) I can't help it. I like it even less now.
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Elwar
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November 26, 2017, 12:48:42 PM |
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^It's cool. We're not taking any poor people. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Are you as concerned about the hundreds of thousands of miles of ocean front property that aren't cheap? Or just a tiny little floating island that will have no impact upon anyone else? Would you use force to allow poor people to live in ocean front properties? I'm saying, if all this is is just a fork of the current world real estate racket, I don't get the appeal. It is a prototype. The people actually making any decisions about its purpose will not be on Internet websites. They will be living on the seastead working to make it into something bigger. Suddenly it sounds like a multinational corporation. Nope. Sinister. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) I can't help it. I like it even less now. Definitely not for you.
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Rosewater Foundation
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November 26, 2017, 12:50:38 PM |
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^When that first refugee gets turned away, the ugly face of future-states will be staring you right in the face. ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif)
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Elwar
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November 26, 2017, 12:58:53 PM |
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^When that first refugee gets turned away, the ugly face of future-states will be staring you right in the face. ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif) Your preconceived notions of something in such a primitive stage is lovely. Takes me to the way way back machine of the early days of Bitcoin. And like Bitcoin, seasteading will be started by libertarians and taken over by the same people that want it regulated and watered down.
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November 26, 2017, 01:12:33 PM |
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That seasteading thing will be an interesting experiment about micro self-ruling.
If people really intends it to live there (instead of just as an excuse for avoiding/reducing taxes elsewhere) it will probably show that most of the problems/fight will be coming from disagreements on local governance between its members than from any external entity.
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RayX12
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November 26, 2017, 01:13:19 PM |
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Good going bitcoin hodlers! Are we rich yet? Bitcoin is the sunshine for today! Happy $9K
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November 26, 2017, 01:14:28 PM |
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The best thing about seasteding will be that we will finally get to see what happens instead of throwing our various prejudices and dogmas at each other.
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November 26, 2017, 01:16:20 PM |
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^It's cool. We're not taking any poor people. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Are you as concerned about the hundreds of thousands of miles of ocean front property that aren't cheap? Or just a tiny little floating island that will have no impact upon anyone else? Would you use force to allow poor people to live in ocean front properties? I'm saying, if all this is is just a fork of the current world real estate racket, I don't get the appeal. It is a prototype. The people actually making any decisions about its purpose will not be on Internet websites. They will be living on the seastead working to make it into something bigger. Something what? What's the vision?
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November 26, 2017, 01:17:39 PM |
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And we get to deal with pirates. This should be fun.
Meantime 9,000? It's over 9,000?
Wow.
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Elwar
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November 26, 2017, 01:18:39 PM |
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That seasteading thing will be an interesting experiment about micro self-ruling.
If people really intends it to live there (instead of just as an excuse for avoiding/reducing taxes elsewhere) it will probably show that most of the problems/fight will come from disagreements on local governance between its members than from any external entity.
I think just about any government system will work with a small amount of people that are there voluntarily and know what they're getting into. The key being the ease of leaving if you don't like it.
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Elwar
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November 26, 2017, 01:20:29 PM |
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And we get to deal with pirates. This should be fun.
Meantime 9,000? It's over 9,000?
Wow.
Pirates and waves. Most people that hear about it first usually bring up the waves too. 100 foot waves. And hurricanes.
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Ibian
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November 26, 2017, 01:25:31 PM |
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That seasteading thing will be an interesting experiment about micro self-ruling.
If people really intends it to live there (instead of just as an excuse for avoiding/reducing taxes elsewhere) it will probably show that most of the problems/fight will come from disagreements on local governance between its members than from any external entity.
I think just about any government system will work with a small amount of people that are there voluntarily and know what they're getting into. The key being the ease of leaving if you don't like it. It certainly won't. Communism doesn't work, for example.
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November 26, 2017, 01:25:45 PM |
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And we get to deal with pirates. This should be fun.
Meantime 9,000? It's over 9,000?
Wow.
Pirates and waves. Most people that hear about it first usually bring up the waves too. 100 foot waves. And hurricanes. don't forget the freaking sharks with laser guns
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Elwar
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November 26, 2017, 01:27:47 PM |
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That seasteading thing will be an interesting experiment about micro self-ruling.
If people really intends it to live there (instead of just as an excuse for avoiding/reducing taxes elsewhere) it will probably show that most of the problems/fight will come from disagreements on local governance between its members than from any external entity.
I think just about any government system will work with a small amount of people that are there voluntarily and know what they're getting into. The key being the ease of leaving if you don't like it. It certainly won't. Communism doesn't work, for example. It works if everyone agrees to it. Communes for example. Early Christianity was communist.
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November 26, 2017, 01:28:35 PM |
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Pirates and waves. Most people that hear about it first usually bring up the waves too. 100 foot waves. And hurricanes.
Those are simple, tiny little governing problems. Wait till the real fun hits the micro-world, items that will pit brother against brother, mother against daughter, and tear the fabric of the community apart.... I am of course talking about PTA meetings. You thing geopolitics is complicated, wait till the first PTA meeting.... :-) C PS: Nine fucking thousand.
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November 26, 2017, 01:29:08 PM |
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That seasteading thing will be an interesting experiment about micro self-ruling.
If people really intends it to live there (instead of just as an excuse for avoiding/reducing taxes elsewhere) it will probably show that most of the problems/fight will come from disagreements on local governance between its members than from any external entity.
I think just about any government system will work with a small amount of people that are there voluntarily and know what they're getting into. The key being the ease of leaving if you don't like it. It certainly won't. Communism doesn't work, for example. It works if everyone agrees to it. Communes for example. Early Christianity was communist. Everyone doesn't. That's why it can never work.
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Elwar
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November 26, 2017, 01:31:32 PM |
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That seasteading thing will be an interesting experiment about micro self-ruling.
If people really intends it to live there (instead of just as an excuse for avoiding/reducing taxes elsewhere) it will probably show that most of the problems/fight will come from disagreements on local governance between its members than from any external entity.
I think just about any government system will work with a small amount of people that are there voluntarily and know what they're getting into. The key being the ease of leaving if you don't like it. It certainly won't. Communism doesn't work, for example. It works if everyone agrees to it. Communes for example. Early Christianity was communist. Everyone doesn't. That's why it can never work. But communes exist today. Are you going to go tell them that they don't work?
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November 26, 2017, 01:35:48 PM |
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That seasteading thing will be an interesting experiment about micro self-ruling.
If people really intends it to live there (instead of just as an excuse for avoiding/reducing taxes elsewhere) it will probably show that most of the problems/fight will come from disagreements on local governance between its members than from any external entity.
I think just about any government system will work with a small amount of people that are there voluntarily and know what they're getting into. The key being the ease of leaving if you don't like it. It certainly won't. Communism doesn't work, for example. It works if everyone agrees to it. Communes for example. Early Christianity was communist. Everyone doesn't. That's why it can never work. But communes exist today. Are you going to go tell them that they don't work? Yes! Did I stutter or something? It has to work on a national scale, or it doesn't ultimately matter. Except insofar as a loner in a hut on the top of a remote mountain matters.
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