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June 25, 2013, 02:03:32 PM
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Will you have the guts to do the right thing when the pressure is on? If yes, I applaud and honor you. If not, here are a few cheap excuses to use (after all, who wants to admit conditioning or cowardice):

Without the rule of law, everything would fall apart.
Without regulation, criminals would destroy everything.
Yes, regulation is coercive, but along with it comes a certain amount of public benefit!
I got ripped off, and someone has to fix it!
If I can’t sue someone, they can get away with ripping me off!
We can’t get people to use Bitcoin unless it’s authorized.
We need approval or we will forever remain a tiny market.
A significant number of Bitcoin people will say these things (and others), but the real truth will be that they are scared, or are still hoping to get mega-rich, or just can’t rip the “government is our friend” meme out of their heads. But mostly it will be fear.

We all feel fear of course, but some of us are determined enough to do the right thing, even when we’re afraid.

So, here’s a final tip: If you run into someone who can feel the fear and still do the right thing, don’t let go of them.

you stole that from an old radical: http://www.dgcmagazine.com/the-old-radical-how-bitcoin-is-being-destroyed/ Smiley


The post linked above contains simple and plain truth.

But really I don't get how a lot of people just do not understand.
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June 25, 2013, 02:18:13 PM
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Will you have the guts to do the right thing when the pressure is on? If yes, I applaud and honor you. If not, here are a few cheap excuses to use (after all, who wants to admit conditioning or cowardice):

Without the rule of law, everything would fall apart.
Without regulation, criminals would destroy everything.
Yes, regulation is coercive, but along with it comes a certain amount of public benefit!
I got ripped off, and someone has to fix it!
If I can’t sue someone, they can get away with ripping me off!
We can’t get people to use Bitcoin unless it’s authorized.
We need approval or we will forever remain a tiny market.
A significant number of Bitcoin people will say these things (and others), but the real truth will be that they are scared, or are still hoping to get mega-rich, or just can’t rip the “government is our friend” meme out of their heads. But mostly it will be fear.

We all feel fear of course, but some of us are determined enough to do the right thing, even when we’re afraid.

So, here’s a final tip: If you run into someone who can feel the fear and still do the right thing, don’t let go of them.

you stole that from an old radical: http://www.dgcmagazine.com/the-old-radical-how-bitcoin-is-being-destroyed/ Smiley


good catch molecular ... and a good read.

Great find on Greenspan ...

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Alan Greenspan may have done a lot of bad things, but he is not stupid. And before his adventures at the Fed, he wrote this:

"(Under a fiat system), there is no way to protect savings from confiscation through inflation… If there were, the government would have to make its holding illegal, as was done in the case of gold"

WOW !
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June 25, 2013, 02:19:24 PM
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There's been suggestions that the naughty whale traders are generating most of the volume, and are even accused of creating false volume, so here's a new chart. It measures how many minutes per day trading volume was at least 100$, and so reduces the impact of large individual sells/buys (and associated activity):


Coded in R?
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June 25, 2013, 02:20:41 PM
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There's been suggestions that the naughty whale traders are generating most of the volume, and are even accused of creating false volume, so here's a new chart. It measures how many minutes per day trading volume was at least 100$, and so reduces the impact of large individual sells/buys (and associated activity):

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Coded in R?

Nope, black marker pen and a red crayon  Grin
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June 25, 2013, 02:24:28 PM
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There's been suggestions that the naughty whale traders are generating most of the volume, and are even accused of creating false volume, so here's a new chart. It measures how many minutes per day trading volume was at least 100$, and so reduces the impact of large individual sells/buys (and associated activity):

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Coded in R?

Nope, black marker pen and a red crayon  Grin

Don't be a smart arse, I have a bag of pencils my friend, as you well know  Angry

Edit: no, I haven't taken to R yet, I prefer a calculator and a grid notebook. Access makes do if I can't find them.
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June 25, 2013, 02:27:21 PM
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Don't be a smart arse, I have a bag of pencils my friend, as you well know  Angry

Sorry ... couldn't help myself  Kiss
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June 25, 2013, 03:00:16 PM
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June 25, 2013, 03:53:12 PM
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Quote from: barbs
Quantitive Easing is deployed with a goal of increasing inflation sure, but do you disagree inflation is pretty much inherent in any monetary system since the concept of money was deployed? I'm only questioning why anyone would be surprised that over 100 years 1$ buys far less?


Why would anyone be surprised? Because in 1700, a grain of silver bought you the same amount of parsnips as it did in 1600. In 100 BC, an ounce of gold bought you the same number of slaves as it did in 200 BC.

In 2013, a dollar bought you... 10, 50, 100x less of a certain good than it did in 1913.

Unless, by "the concept of money" being deployed, you specifically meant fiat money. Fiat money is designed to steal money from people over periods of decades. Just because it took 100 years to steal 98% of peoples' value, doesn't mean it's all of a sudden OK.

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June 25, 2013, 03:58:43 PM
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very bullish daily candle forming
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June 25, 2013, 04:00:25 PM
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June 25, 2013, 04:09:06 PM
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there's a considerable amount of bitcoin piling up at and around 110, good buying opportunity. there is resistance above 110 but its not that bad at all, a few more upward volume spikes and we have ourselves a rocket ready to blast up Up UP to 180  Wink
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June 25, 2013, 04:18:11 PM
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100$ coins soon  Grin

i'm going place some bids  Smiley

What happened to this?  You move way too fast for me.  lol
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June 25, 2013, 04:43:42 PM
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100$ coins soon  Grin

i'm going place some bids  Smiley

What happened to this?  You move way too fast for me.  lol

well i was right wasn't i

we had 100$ for a few hours, and now its on the rise again...

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June 25, 2013, 04:50:57 PM
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100$ coins soon  Grin

i'm going place some bids  Smiley

What happened to this?  You move way too fast for me.  lol

well i was right wasn't i

we had 100$ for a few hours, and now its on the rise again...

I trusted you! And I'm makin some jack because of it. lol
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June 25, 2013, 05:42:01 PM
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So, since checking the charts like 10 hrs ago... nothing has really happened? It looks like some sort of large sell happened a bit over an hour ago, but I dont see it in ChartBuddys post?

10.4k to 100, up from a low of 2.7k
13.3k to 110, up from a low of 1.5k

Bearish?
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June 25, 2013, 05:45:59 PM
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Just to add a little bit of spice to this thread, I will leave this epic video titled "Hitler got screwed by Bitcoin weekend dip and is reminiscing about his Bitcoin mining career" for those who are new in here and missed it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4axmD2YvPnA

Lulz guaranteed.
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June 25, 2013, 05:56:55 PM
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Epic indeed... the ending is simply priceless  Grin
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June 25, 2013, 06:49:12 PM
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I get the feeling that Bitstamp is much less manipulated than Gox. In particular considering that crazy movement with quick book correction there after early today.

This doesn't look good and hasn't for days. So, the movement earlier today is all the more suspicious. Anything more regarding that?

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June 25, 2013, 06:50:36 PM
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Down we go!
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June 25, 2013, 06:51:54 PM
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I get the feeling that Bitstamp is much less manipulated than Gox. In particular considering that crazy movement with quick book correction there after early today.

This doesn't look good and hasn't for days. So, the movement earlier today is all the more suspicious. Anything more regarding that?



too many coins on Bitstamp ... Sad
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