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November 25, 2013, 11:02:33 AM
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I'm not here rambling to maximize my profit (like you are). I'm gandhi. Cool

Haha, fail. Gandhi would never pay attention to ramblers.

Ofc he would if the rambler has authority to influence people.
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November 25, 2013, 11:02:40 AM
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November 25, 2013, 11:03:03 AM
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Too many people are waiting till the price drops. So the price never drops. And also never gets up. If you look at the order book on bitstamp, there are order with middle range five figures at 770$. And nobody is buying because they hope the price will go down. We will last in the 800´s forever  Cheesy

I sold at 820$ yesterday, bought back at 800$... You can play this game since 2 days. But the fees are ruining it. As I made 340$ with 17 coins and the price difference of 20$, they charged 140$ on fees. 200$ win is may be not bad but the risk is very high that something happens after you sold.

How do you have such a high fee? To trade about 20 BTC I pay a MAXIMUM of 30 Dollars...

I trade on stamp and they charge me 70$ for selling and 70$ for buying. Fee´s are 0,5% even though on the landing page of Bitstamp they say 0,2%.

Where do you trade? I need some alternative.

Bullshit-Bingo

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Fee %	30 days USD volume
0.50% < $500
0.48% < $1,000
0.46% < $2,000
0.44% < $4,000
0.42% < $6,500
0.40% < $10,000
0.38% < $15,000
0.36% < $20,000
0.34% < $25,000
0.32% < $37,500
0.30% < $50,000
0.28% < $62,500
0.26% < $75,000
0.24% < $100,000
0.22% < $150,000
0.20% > $150,000

I'm at bitstamp and I'm at the 0.2% ratio.

If you trade 20 BTC (16000 USD) Your fee should be:
32 USD To Buy or Sell...

You just haven't traded enough yet.

Exchange commissions: the new way to indirectly brag about how much money you have
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November 25, 2013, 11:07:14 AM
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Too many people are waiting till the price drops. So the price never drops. And also never gets up. If you look at the order book on bitstamp, there are order with middle range five figures at 770$. And nobody is buying because they hope the price will go down. We will last in the 800´s forever  Cheesy

I sold at 820$ yesterday, bought back at 800$... You can play this game since 2 days. But the fees are ruining it. As I made 340$ with 17 coins and the price difference of 20$, they charged 140$ on fees. 200$ win is may be not bad but the risk is very high that something happens after you sold.

How do you have such a high fee? To trade about 20 BTC I pay a MAXIMUM of 30 Dollars...

I trade on stamp and they charge me 70$ for selling and 70$ for buying. Fee´s are 0,5% even though on the landing page of Bitstamp they say 0,2%.

Where do you trade? I need some alternative.

Bullshit-Bingo

Code:
Fee %	30 days USD volume
0.50% < $500
0.48% < $1,000
0.46% < $2,000
0.44% < $4,000
0.42% < $6,500
0.40% < $10,000
0.38% < $15,000
0.36% < $20,000
0.34% < $25,000
0.32% < $37,500
0.30% < $50,000
0.28% < $62,500
0.26% < $75,000
0.24% < $100,000
0.22% < $150,000
0.20% > $150,000

I'm at bitstamp and I'm at the 0.2% ratio.

If you trade 20 BTC (16000 USD) Your fee should be:
32 USD To Buy or Sell...

You just haven't traded enough yet.

Exchange commissions: the new way to indirectly brag about how much money you have

Lol did you really take it that way or are you just trolling me? This is absolutely no measurement as I actually own very little @ Stamp, but I trade lot....
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November 25, 2013, 11:08:36 AM
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Hi guys, just launched a new question thread why price is highest at bitstamp now.
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November 25, 2013, 11:11:41 AM
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Too many people are waiting till the price drops. So the price never drops. And also never gets up. If you look at the order book on bitstamp, there are order with middle range five figures at 770$. And nobody is buying because they hope the price will go down. We will last in the 800´s forever  Cheesy

I sold at 820$ yesterday, bought back at 800$... You can play this game since 2 days. But the fees are ruining it. As I made 340$ with 17 coins and the price difference of 20$, they charged 140$ on fees. 200$ win is may be not bad but the risk is very high that something happens after you sold.

How do you have such a high fee? To trade about 20 BTC I pay a MAXIMUM of 30 Dollars...

I trade on stamp and they charge me 70$ for selling and 70$ for buying. Fee´s are 0,5% even though on the landing page of Bitstamp they say 0,2%.

Where do you trade? I need some alternative.

Bullshit-Bingo

Code:
Fee %	30 days USD volume
0.50% < $500
0.48% < $1,000
0.46% < $2,000
0.44% < $4,000
0.42% < $6,500
0.40% < $10,000
0.38% < $15,000
0.36% < $20,000
0.34% < $25,000
0.32% < $37,500
0.30% < $50,000
0.28% < $62,500
0.26% < $75,000
0.24% < $100,000
0.22% < $150,000
0.20% > $150,000

I'm at bitstamp and I'm at the 0.2% ratio.

If you trade 20 BTC (16000 USD) Your fee should be:
32 USD To Buy or Sell...

You just haven't traded enough yet.

Well, time to move all coins from gox to stamp. Gox is still charging 0,6% on my account.

But anyway, you see the problem? If you want to make small profits, the fees are ruining it anyway. You pay 32$ on sell and 32$ on buy. So on 20 BTC´s the price must fall at least 4$ only to pay the fees. And the risk is high that you sell and wait for a price drop but the price goes up and at the wors scenario it will never come down again.
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November 25, 2013, 11:18:24 AM
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Too many people are waiting till the price drops. So the price never drops. And also never gets up. If you look at the order book on bitstamp, there are order with middle range five figures at 770$. And nobody is buying because they hope the price will go down. We will last in the 800´s forever  Cheesy

I sold at 820$ yesterday, bought back at 800$... You can play this game since 2 days. But the fees are ruining it. As I made 340$ with 17 coins and the price difference of 20$, they charged 140$ on fees. 200$ win is may be not bad but the risk is very high that something happens after you sold.

How do you have such a high fee? To trade about 20 BTC I pay a MAXIMUM of 30 Dollars...

I trade on stamp and they charge me 70$ for selling and 70$ for buying. Fee´s are 0,5% even though on the landing page of Bitstamp they say 0,2%.

Where do you trade? I need some alternative.

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I'm at bitstamp and I'm at the 0.2% ratio.

If you trade 20 BTC (16000 USD) Your fee should be:
32 USD To Buy or Sell...

You just haven't traded enough yet.

Well, time to move all coins from gox to stamp. Gox is still charging 0,6% on my account.

But anyway, you see the problem? If you want to make small profits, the fees are ruining it anyway. You pay 32$ on sell and 32$ on buy. So on 20 BTC´s the price must fall at least 4$ only to pay the fees. And the risk is high that you sell and wait for a price drop but the price goes up and at the wors scenario it will never come down again.

Move to BTCChina if it's just for trading then. 0% fee's. You can trade in and out at 50cents if it makes you feel comfortable.
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November 25, 2013, 11:21:56 AM
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Its Monday.

So, where are all these new buyers with fresh deposits?
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November 25, 2013, 11:24:04 AM
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6am est.. if they had bill payments like I did last week.. the money was there Sunday or Monday at 12:05am est
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November 25, 2013, 11:24:44 AM
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I'm not here rambling to maximize my profit (like you are). I'm gandhi. Cool

Haha, fail. Gandhi would never pay attention to ramblers.

Gandhi would never be in a speculation forum.
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November 25, 2013, 11:26:36 AM
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hmm and why is gox going up ....
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November 25, 2013, 11:27:00 AM
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Its Monday.

So, where are all these new buyers with fresh deposits?

I'm waiting as well.....there's been a lot of big talk about today going to 4 figures....
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November 25, 2013, 11:27:23 AM
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Brilliant!
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November 25, 2013, 11:33:30 AM
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Its Monday.

So, where are all these new buyers with fresh deposits?

I'm waiting as well.....there's been a lot of big talk about today going to 4 figures....

I'm becoming very bearish all of a sudden. And it's pretty much time to go to sleep here. Decisions...
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November 25, 2013, 11:33:42 AM
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"Weekly range for Bitstamp is 650$-1000$"

http://btctrading.wordpress.com/2013/11/25/short-term-update-daily-chart-at-bitstamp-4/

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November 25, 2013, 11:36:53 AM
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Too many people are waiting till the price drops. So the price never drops. And also never gets up. If you look at the order book on bitstamp, there are order with middle range five figures at 770$. And nobody is buying because they hope the price will go down. We will last in the 800´s forever  Cheesy

I sold at 820$ yesterday, bought back at 800$... You can play this game since 2 days. But the fees are ruining it. As I made 340$ with 17 coins and the price difference of 20$, they charged 140$ on fees. 200$ win is may be not bad but the risk is very high that something happens after you sold.

How do you have such a high fee? To trade about 20 BTC I pay a MAXIMUM of 30 Dollars...

I trade on stamp and they charge me 70$ for selling and 70$ for buying. Fee´s are 0,5% even though on the landing page of Bitstamp they say 0,2%.

Where do you trade? I need some alternative.

Bullshit-Bingo

Code:
Fee %	30 days USD volume
0.50% < $500
0.48% < $1,000
0.46% < $2,000
0.44% < $4,000
0.42% < $6,500
0.40% < $10,000
0.38% < $15,000
0.36% < $20,000
0.34% < $25,000
0.32% < $37,500
0.30% < $50,000
0.28% < $62,500
0.26% < $75,000
0.24% < $100,000
0.22% < $150,000
0.20% > $150,000

I'm at bitstamp and I'm at the 0.2% ratio.

If you trade 20 BTC (16000 USD) Your fee should be:
32 USD To Buy or Sell...

You just haven't traded enough yet.

Well, time to move all coins from gox to stamp. Gox is still charging 0,6% on my account.

But anyway, you see the problem? If you want to make small profits, the fees are ruining it anyway. You pay 32$ on sell and 32$ on buy. So on 20 BTC´s the price must fall at least 4$ only to pay the fees. And the risk is high that you sell and wait for a price drop but the price goes up and at the wors scenario it will never come down again.

You haven't traded on stocks with brokers then have you? These fee's are extremely cheap when compared with the traditional systems.

Off-course I'd rather have them even lower :-).
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November 25, 2013, 11:37:58 AM
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Its Monday.

So, where are all these new buyers with fresh deposits?

I'm waiting as well.....there's been a lot of big talk about today going to 4 figures....

I'm becoming very bearish all of a sudden. And it's pretty much time to go to sleep here. Decisions...

If you're afraid of a price dump while you're away you can send me all your bitcoins and I will sell them if it goes below 750.
And you can sleep like a baby bear.
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November 25, 2013, 11:40:42 AM
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Its Monday.

So, where are all these new buyers with fresh deposits?

I'm waiting as well.....there's been a lot of big talk about today going to 4 figures....

I'm becoming very bearish all of a sudden. And it's pretty much time to go to sleep here. Decisions...

If you're afraid of a price dump while you're away you can send me all your bitcoins and I will sell them if it goes below 750.
And you can sleep like a baby bear.

That's just so thoughtful Grin
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November 25, 2013, 11:40:48 AM
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Looks like we may be in for some action, folks.
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November 25, 2013, 11:42:17 AM
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Move to BTCChina if it's just for trading then. 0% fee's. You can trade in and out at 50cents if it makes you feel comfortable.

Great thanks, didn´t know that. But as I can see, the price on BTCChina is mostly pretty constant.
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