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May 24, 2018, 09:14:41 PM

Excuse my ignorance but what is RSI?
ffs Rampant Sausage Indicator - shows bullish divergence


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May 24, 2018, 09:30:29 PM

I jumped to conclusions and possibly made a mistake. He expressed himself in a calm and respectful manner in the end. Bitcoin fanatics usually aren't able to do that.

I strongly agree with what I think is your more general point that A) commodity money is important B) cryptocurrency is not a replacement or substitute for it
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May 24, 2018, 09:32:59 PM

I strongly agree with what I think is your more general point that A) commodity money is important B) cryptocurrency is not a replacement or substitute for it
Mind explaining why you think commodity money will stay important? Genuinely interested.
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May 24, 2018, 09:33:15 PM

Rick just came home from work and asked "What the fuck is going on with Bitcoin, man ?"

I just shrugged and replied with "No idea, dude."

What do I tell him about this dump ?

I have no idea what's going on.

Seems like your partner is too emotionally invested in your BTC investment.

I recall that you, Bob, have taken a couple pretty decently sized cash outs in the supra $11k price arena, which I would imagine that you have largely already gotten back more than your total investment from those cash outs, even though you likely sold less than a 1/4 of your stash.. or at least that was my impression... but anyhow BTC prices had gone up way over 4x, at those price points, that it is quite likely that you have gotten out more than your original investment.

I recall also, that you deferred one of your cash outs, and tentatively, you were considering waiting until prices returned above $12k, so is that the part that has your partner worried?

I think that with any investment, one of the problems is if you are somewhat dependent upon the cashflow of the investment to pay your expenses, then in that regard, anyone could be considered to be "overinvested" if he could be forced to cash out of some or all of the investment at a time that is NOT of his choosing.

Ultimately, it seems that current BTC price performance is part of regular price correction dynamics, and a looming question does remain whether current BTC prices is going to end up being in an early 2013 like scenario or a early 2014 like scenario... I personally am still inclined to believe that the early 2013 like scenario seems to be the most likely of the two, but of course, the jury is still out and there have been a lot of more bearish folks that have been proclaiming the early 2014 scenario.. and part of my problem with such proclamation, from some of those folks, is that they have been proclaiming it since about early January.. and that is way to fucking early to be making such proclamations, even though they could end up being correct - in what I personally continue to consider their "minority" view...   I use the word "minority" to suggest that the early 2014 scenario seems to be the least likely, rather than the one held by the least of people... because it is quite possible, and even likely, that more peeps outside of this thread (we in the WO, are not the whole world, by the way... hahahahahha... even if we may be a lot more "in touch" with BTC fundamentals than the vast majority of the world expressing opinions on the BTC topic)  actually believe in the early 2014 scenario rather than the early 2013 scenario.
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May 24, 2018, 09:36:19 PM

Fuck! looks like we are going to 7K.

Smells like a W-bottom to me:



(ignore the colors)
What we really need now are some ascending red candles. It would totally trick the bears.

Many of us in the HODL Craefully Gang are not feeling too good, right now.

Can you just leave us alone?




You need to learn to go with the flow... sell and buy everything all the time! That way you make big profits! Smiley


Yeah, right..  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes   Screw myself into a life of gambling, so I can be more like others who are losing money and panicking about the BTC price more than half of the time.  That sounds like a great plan.  Tongue
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May 24, 2018, 09:43:33 PM

Fuck! looks like we are going to 7K.

Smells like a W-bottom to me:



(ignore the colors)
What we really need now are some ascending red candles. It would totally trick the bears.

Many of us in the HODL Craefully Gang are not feeling too good, right now.

Can you just leave us alone?



Guys, don't forget the... "RSI". We're close to another bull run:

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May 24, 2018, 09:49:30 PM

Oh yeah I can feel it coming!



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Guys, don't forget the... "RSI". We're close to another bull run:


Are you sure? check historic
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I strongly agree with what I think is your more general point that A) commodity money is important B) cryptocurrency is not a replacement or substitute for it
Mind explaining why you think commodity money will stay important? Genuinely interested.

Sure. Basically I don't think bitcoin makes a very good reserve asset. It isn't nearly as well suited for a base of the liquidity pyramid as gold is.



Part of what makes it poorly suited as a reserve asset is that technology improves over time. There is a risk that the leading cryptocurrency will always be overturned by new and better technology. Which is a good thing, just not a good thing if you want the properties of a stable long term bottom of the liquidity pyramid reserve asset. Interestingly there is an implication here that if bitcoin can win against all of the other alts and come to soundly dominate this sector it will more closely approximate the utility of gold as a reserve asset. But if it get's overtaken by ethereum or bcrap that could open pandoras box and doubly prove my point.

There is also an existential threat posed to bitcoin from forks that you wouldn't want in a reserve asset.

There is a technological threat, what if the network gets owned? What if it is built on assumptions that turn out to be wrong? It's well safe enough for speculation and payments and building businesses ontop of, but there is enough of a risk in this regard to hamper its utility as an ultra safe long term reserve asset.

TLDR; if you were to insert bitcoin into the pyramid it would fall in-between gold and circulating money, not next to gold, and certainly not beneath it.
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May 24, 2018, 10:18:29 PM

Wyckoff Accumulation Schematic - Chart pasted again in comments in the following link with additional details, explanations and indicators:  

https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BTCUSD/P07Gk3YT-Wyckoff-Accumulation-Schematic-Chart-pasted-again-in-comments/

So, when moon?


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May 24, 2018, 10:28:29 PM




What no tool vanity plate to go with it? Lol

If you have lambo, good for you. You're now part of the tool club along with Ver and CSW.

I have a paid off house and still millions worth of bitcoin. So tell me why I would be bitter again?

Maybe because markj113 has exposed you for the contentless braggadocio you spew? Making unfounded proclamations about what others have or think or do is a habit for you. You got called on it. NBD - move on.
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May 24, 2018, 10:30:18 PM

Roger Ver, is this one of your sock puppet accounts? Sure seems like it.

Haha.

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May 24, 2018, 10:35:49 PM

back down below $ 8k  Cry
now it's touched $ 7500, I hope it will not go back to the $ 7k price.
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Rick just came home from work and asked "What the fuck is going on with Bitcoin, man ?"

I just shrugged and replied with "No idea, dude."

What do I tell him about this dump ?

I have no idea what's going on.

Seems like your partner is too emotionally invested in your BTC investment.

I recall that you, Bob, have taken a couple pretty decently sized cash outs in the supra $11k price arena, which I would imagine that you have largely already gotten back more than your total investment from those cash outs, even though you likely sold less than a 1/4 of your stash.. or at least that was my impression... but anyhow BTC prices had gone up way over 4x, at those price points, that it is quite likely that you have gotten out more than your original investment.

I recall also, that you deferred one of your cash outs, and tentatively, you were considering waiting until prices returned above $12k, so is that the part that has your partner worried?

I think that with any investment, one of the problems is if you are somewhat dependent upon the cashflow of the investment to pay your expenses, then in that regard, anyone could be considered to be "overinvested" if he could be forced to cash out of some or all of the investment at a time that is NOT of his choosing.

Ultimately, it seems that current BTC price performance is part of regular price correction dynamics, and a looming question does remain whether current BTC prices is going to end up being in an early 2013 like scenario or a early 2014 like scenario... I personally am still inclined to believe that the early 2013 like scenario seems to be the most likely of the two, but of course, the jury is still out and there have been a lot of more bearish folks that have been proclaiming the early 2014 scenario.. and part of my problem with such proclamation, from some of those folks, is that they have been proclaiming it since about early January.. and that is way to fucking early to be making such proclamations, even though they could end up being correct - in what I personally continue to consider their "minority" view...   I use the word "minority" to suggest that the early 2014 scenario seems to be the least likely, rather than the one held by the least of people... because it is quite possible, and even likely, that more peeps outside of this thread (we in the WO, are not the whole world, by the way... hahahahahha... even if we may be a lot more "in touch" with BTC fundamentals than the vast majority of the world expressing opinions on the BTC topic)  actually believe in the early 2014 scenario rather than the early 2013 scenario.

You recall lots  Cool
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May 24, 2018, 10:41:25 PM

back down below $ 8k  Cry
now it's touched $ 7500, I hope it will not go back to the $ 7k price.



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1btc still 1btc   Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin

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May 24, 2018, 10:42:08 PM

I strongly agree with what I think is your more general point that A) commodity money is important B) cryptocurrency is not a replacement or substitute for it
Mind explaining why you think commodity money will stay important? Genuinely interested.

Sure. Basically I don't think bitcoin makes a very good reserve asset. It isn't nearly as well suited for a base of the liquidity pyramid as gold is.



Part of what makes it poorly suited as a reserve asset is that technology improves over time. There is a risk that the leading cryptocurrency will always be overturned by new and better technology. Which is a good thing, just not a good thing if you want the properties of a stable long term bottom of the liquidity pyramid reserve asset. Interestingly there is an implication here that if bitcoin can win against all of the other alts and come to soundly dominate this sector it will more closely approximate the utility of gold as a reserve asset. But if it get's overtaken by ethereum or bcrap that could open pandoras box and doubly prove my point.

There is also an existential threat posed to bitcoin from forks that you wouldn't want in a reserve asset.

There is a technological threat, what if the network gets owned? What if it is built on assumptions that turn out to be wrong? It's well safe enough for speculation and payments and building businesses ontop of, but there is enough of a risk in this regard to hamper its utility as an ultra safe long term reserve asset.

TLDR; if you were to insert bitcoin into the pyramid it would fall in-between gold and circulating money, not next to gold, and certainly not beneath it.

You're right.

Just thinking out loud here. If you look at bitcoin in isolation it is limited in quantity. Yes. But if you look at crypto in isolation it is inflating like crazy, coins doubling every fork and brand new ones left right and centre with any arbitrary number of tokens. And some of those are inflationary. I guess just more reasons gold deserves to be in that spot at the base of the pyramid.
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Wyckoff Accumulation Schematic - Chart pasted again in comments in the following link with additional details, explanations and indicators:  

Lets get a historical perspective on what we're currently dealing with:

The SPRING can "possibly" begin around June 22nd.  It's marked below with Blue Vertical Time Line inside the top indicator located near the bottom of the chart lined up with the text bubble, "SPRING."

2018 2-Day Time Frame:



2014 2-Day Time Frame:

Another IMPORTANT NOTE:

In 2014 we ended up with MULTIPLE Automatic Rallies and TESTS in Phase B. It's possible we could have MULTIPLE Automatice Rallies and TESTS in Phase B in 2018 as well. We cannot rule that out. We simply have to be on guard and pay close attention to indicators as those "potential" events unfold.

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May 24, 2018, 10:50:31 PM

back down below $ 8k  Cry
now it's touched $ 7500, I hope it will not go back to the $ 7k price.
Fucking up to $7500 where have you been we were close to $7200 now we're trying over and over to overtake 7600
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May 24, 2018, 10:51:20 PM

You're right.

Just thinking out loud here. If you look at bitcoin in isolation it is limited in quantity. Yes. But if you look at crypto in isolation it is inflating like crazy, coins doubling every fork and brand new ones left right and centre with any arbitrary number of tokens. And some of those are inflationary. I guess just more reasons gold deserves to be in that spot at the base of the pyramid.

On a more positive note. It may not replace gold but it totally freaking owns swift. https://www.coindesk.com/bank-argentina-just-added-bitcoin-cross-border-payments/
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