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May 25, 2018, 07:24:00 PM

I don't suppose we could throw r0ach in?

depends on how many lives he/she has...
I think half of it's the joke the other is the market, it's just going up and down in the same range. Looks like we're all waiting on the spike that kicks things off. (Hopefully spiking up)

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May 25, 2018, 07:45:47 PM
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It's almost the mid of 2018 and bitcoin is still available for just 7300 bucks... looks unbelievable to me.
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May 25, 2018, 07:50:22 PM

Bears aren't trying very hard.

Can't even call this a proper triple bottom with the price still more than $1300 above first spike and $840 above second spike.

Even the volume is pathetic compared to the last and especially first spike down.

Baseline trend still climbing.

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May 25, 2018, 07:58:03 PM
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Trading Altcoins and Bitcoin with your Trezor  Shocked

https://medium.com/faast/how-to-make-effortless-cross-chain-trades-with-a-trezor-wallet-50f6e85fe923
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May 25, 2018, 08:00:29 PM

Weirdness, Gemini and Bitstamp switched, Gemini would follow Bitstamp almost always but today the price is following wing gemini. Gemini is a highly regulated exchange I wonder if this has anything to do with the US announcing that they'll look into manipulation.

whois: coinmarketcap

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===> "kill all tokens"
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May 25, 2018, 08:10:03 PM
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Elliott Wave corrective ABC pattern almost complete. I'm getting ready to long @ somewhere between high 6k - low7k
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May 25, 2018, 08:27:45 PM
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What are the reasons that would happen with BTC or BCH in electrum? Ive never seen the full total leave before coming back later

Whether BTC or BCH, every time you spend from an address, the entire amount is spent. Some of it is sent to the intended recipient, an optional amount becomes a transaction fee, and the remainder -- if your wallet supports such (all the successful ones do) -- gets sent back to a change address that the wallet creates.

Electron Cash does not maintain a copy of the entire blockchain. Instead, it queries another server to be the source of this data. You were likely connected to a slow blockchain data server.

I think some other responders forgot their /sarc tags. This is usually detectable without need for such. However, when under stress -- such as when one might be worried about missing funds -- these otherwise obvious implications may not be immediately apparent.
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May 25, 2018, 08:42:19 PM

 Wink Wink

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May 25, 2018, 09:08:33 PM


What are the fees?
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May 25, 2018, 09:11:37 PM


Wait.

1.  Why are YOU interested in trading ALTS?
2.  Read #1
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May 25, 2018, 09:13:25 PM

https://trademarks.ipo.gov.uk/ipo-tmcase/page/Results/1/UK00003279106
Some doofus (LANDSVERK, Kjell Halvor - Oct '79) in Fulham, UK, trademarked the word bitcoin for clothes, booze etc.
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May 25, 2018, 09:32:50 PM

https://trademarks.ipo.gov.uk/ipo-tmcase/page/Results/1/UK00003279106
Some doofus (LANDSVERK, Kjell Halvor - Oct '79) in Fulham, UK, trademarked the word bitcoin for clothes, booze etc.

Well He should RIGHT AWAY go sue...

umm...

start a case against...

umm...

Vitali.. no wait.

umm...

Meaningless trademark is meaningless.
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May 25, 2018, 09:39:13 PM

https://trademarks.ipo.gov.uk/ipo-tmcase/page/Results/1/UK00003279106
Some doofus (LANDSVERK, Kjell Halvor - Oct '79) in Fulham, UK, trademarked the word bitcoin for clothes, booze etc.

Well He should RIGHT AWAY go sue...

umm...

start a case against...

umm...

Vitali.. no wait.

umm...

Meaningless trademark is meaningless.

Yes it's quite dotty. He's sent a c&d letter https://www.reddit.com/r/LegalAdviceUK/comments/8m286u/advice_regarding_this_trademark_infringement/
Best part: "So I've removed all the bitcoin shirts from my store, which I'm not bothered about since they don't sell."
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May 25, 2018, 09:45:39 PM

More silly
https://www.coinspeaker.com/2018/05/23/what-is-rothschilds-immo/
https://cryptorecorder.com/2018/05/25/online-disputes-about-the-rothschilds-involvement-in-the-creation-of-their-own-cryptocurrency-projects/
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May 25, 2018, 09:46:26 PM


Wait.  Are you striving to suggest that I am buying into alt coin mania? or trying to get into misleading pumping and dumping?  hahahahaha

As you likely realize, I am not really interested in trading Alts, specifically, but just in case you do not know, I am interested in the concept of decentralized means to exchange bitcoins, whether that is to trade for Alts or with some kind of fiat pegged asset - and the more ways that exist to exchange your bitcoins for some other asset, the more likely competition that develops around the space, including competition regarding fees, and my ultimate concern relates back to bitcoin as I already mentioned, read above.     Tongue
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May 25, 2018, 10:13:56 PM

https://www.faa.st/pricing
.5% +tx fees +slippage - can't find what market they use.
Anyone used it? dyor essential
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May 25, 2018, 10:33:30 PM
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There are only two camps of people, those that believe in sound, physical money that actually exists in the real world like silver and gold, and those that believe in completely arbitrary, imaginary, valueless tokens like US dollars, bitcoins, and Chuck E Cheese tokens.

Do US dollars have a hard cap? No.
Do US dollars have a predictable issuance schedule? No.
Do Chuck E Cheese tokens have a hard cap? No.
Do Chuck E Cheese tokens have a predictable issuance schedule? No.

Do Bitcoins have a hard cap? Yes.
Do Bitcoins have a predictable issuance schedule? Yes.

Therefore it is either stupid or disingenuous to lump Bitcoins in with these obvious
scam projects like US dollars or Chuck E Cheese tokens.

You cannot be serious.  I'm not some type of idiot-sucker like all you people that can be fooled by cut and pasting Andreas Antonopolous used car salesman lies.  Bitcoin has NOTHING close to a Nash equilibrium, which means none of this shit is true.  It's just a designed to centralize power vacuum to be taken over and exploited.  This is not some far off in the future thing, it happened almost immediately after the first ASIC was released.  It was at that point there was no reason for bitcoin to exist.

SURE, if the completely centralized transaction validators do something you don't like such as increasing the coin count or trying to ram in chain anchor to fully realize the police state function of bitcoin you can attempt to fork off into a different chain, but it's you that would be the altcoin, not the tyrants with power over the original chain.  The people who centralized the original chain have done absolutely nothing wrong, they have only utilized bitcoin the way it was designed - to completely centralize under them.

Your only options at this point are either continuous forking to infinity and death by diffusion with no valid Schelling Point (not a valid option), or obeying whoever the transaction validators centralize under in some type of Orwellian dystopia.  They, or their small cartel, can collude to jack transaction fees to whatever they want, block anyone's transactions they want if you don't worship the state, or any other option that amuses them.  So all you're getting out of this is either a failed experiment or complete dystopia, pick one.  This is why the fundamentals of silver and gold completely destroy this garbage.  Shitcoins have no fundamentals because it's 100% impossible to create a decentralized digital currency.
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May 25, 2018, 10:47:08 PM

Okey so whats next???


Were gonne drop to €3k???
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May 25, 2018, 10:49:56 PM

https://trademarks.ipo.gov.uk/ipo-tmcase/page/Results/1/UK00003279106
Some doofus (LANDSVERK, Kjell Halvor - Oct '79) in Fulham, UK, trademarked the word bitcoin for clothes, booze etc.

Well He should RIGHT AWAY go sue...

umm...

start a case against...

umm...

Vitali.. no wait.

umm...

Meaningless trademark is meaningless.

He could sue Craig Wright.
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May 25, 2018, 11:00:51 PM

Quote
“In February, it became known that the Tether accounts of Bitfinex were opened in the Dutch bank ING, owned by The Rothschild Group.

It was pretty obvious even when the bitcoin price was low in the several hundreds of dollars that there was way too much seemingly infinitely printed money appearing out of the void.  It was far too easy to make money because it always felt like someone was propping up the entire scene from behind the curtain all the way from $200+ whether it was in bitcoin or altcoins.  Now you have the source of what was behind that magical curtain.
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