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[ChartBuddy]

[gandhibt]

china will go thru 5500 soon, they already punctured it and now they are oversold

Having seen my magic, perhaps you can now publicly acknowledge that I have 10,000 bitcoins, apologize, stfu and gtfo. OK?  

well no, that wall wasn't that big you can talk, but i don't think you have what it takes to walk the talk

ofc this is a good thing because you don't deserve your coins bitcoin shows that it works, spreading your coins to wiser folk

You are a bad loser, talking nonsense when you should be really ashamed.

How many coins were there on that wall? You have not proved that you have 10k coins. We'll see who is talking nonsense in the future (about the price).

[seleme]

Wow, talk about full of shit!

Rpietilla should be included in dictionary as synonym for "abused in school bullshitter"

Though I feel sorry for him sometimes..

[DaRude]

Hmm i was just doing the math on his initial btc hitting $500 before $1k offer. I guess goat spooked him off before that

[virtualfaqs]

china will go thru 5500 soon, they already punctured it and now they are oversold

Having seen my magic, perhaps you can now publicly acknowledge that I have 10,000 bitcoins, apologize, stfu and gtfo. OK?  

If you want to prove that just sign a message with an address holding 10k and put that signed message in your signature - no need for nobody to "acknowledge", that would be a hard cold proof.

That's pure non spoofable crypto, heart and soul of Bitcoin.

That's not hard cold proof. It's susceptible to Man in the Middle attack.

[adamstgBit]

24:00 UTC is a confusing time. Say 23:59 UTC.

Also couldn't Goat just buy up to $1163/BTC and then just sell again. Would only lose transaction fees to win $50K. But I suppose you could set up sell orders to stop him from winning the bet.

LOL, you are smart! I checked that I needed to back off from the $1000 bet because of insufficient ASK volume. But $1163 I am sure Goat and his bull friends cannot conquer (they don't have much fiat, only btc). I also have friends with many BTC and they know that it is going down. What is more fun than to sell some more at an inflated price If we actually battle at 1100+ territory then the $50k is peanuts  

thank you for getting all your friends to sell their bitcoins.

[DaRude]

...I also have friends with many BTC and they know that it is going down....

I'm just curious why those friends hold many BTC if they know that it's going down

[Rampion]

china will go thru 5500 soon, they already punctured it and now they are oversold

Having seen my magic, perhaps you can now publicly acknowledge that I have 10,000 bitcoins, apologize, stfu and gtfo. OK?  

If you want to prove that just sign a message with an address holding 10k and put that signed message in your signature - no need for nobody to "acknowledge", that would be a hard cold proof.

That's pure non spoofable crypto, heart and soul of Bitcoin.

That's not hard cold proof. It's susceptible to Man in the Middle attack.

Care to elaborate that? How could rpietila perform "a man in the middle attack" and make bitcointalk.org users to believe he signed a message with an address holding 10k BTC if he is not in control of an address with such an amount?

[adamstgBit]

...I also have friends with many BTC and they know that it is going down....

I'm just curious why those friends hold many BTC if they know that it's going down

its really not that hard to believe someone would hold on to his bitcoin even tho he knows it might go down.

I'm doing it!

and i really do have 10K looking to buy cheap coins, IF i'm lucky enough. ( please no one tell my wife )

[wachtwoord]

Good job calling that bluff haha

[virtualfaqs]

china will go thru 5500 soon, they already punctured it and now they are oversold

Having seen my magic, perhaps you can now publicly acknowledge that I have 10,000 bitcoins, apologize, stfu and gtfo. OK?  

If you want to prove that just sign a message with an address holding 10k and put that signed message in your signature - no need for nobody to "acknowledge", that would be a hard cold proof.

That's pure non spoofable crypto, heart and soul of Bitcoin.

That's not hard cold proof. It's susceptible to Man in the Middle attack.

Care to elaborate that? How could rpietila perform "a man in the middle attack" and make bitcointalk.org users to believe he signed a message with an address holding 10k BTC if he is not in control of an address with such an amount?

Because there is nothing linking the Bitcoin address to his forum account. Hypothetically speaking, he could just ask a friend who has access to 10K BTC to sign a message and just post it. The difference is there is the possibility he can get 10K BTC account to sign a message, but he may not necessary control it.

[DaRude]

...I also have friends with many BTC and they know that it is going down....

I'm just curious why those friends hold many BTC if they know that it's going down

its really not that hard to believe someone would hold on to his bitcoin even tho he knows it might go down.

I'm doing it!

and i really do have 10K looking to buy cheap coins, IF i'm lucky enough. ( please no one tell my wife )

Well yeah everyone here knows with a 100% certainty that it will go down at some point in time. But i read that as rpietila implying that they're bears, and expect it to crash below $500, but yet for unknown reason still horde many BTC

[adamstgBit]

...I also have friends with many BTC and they know that it is going down....

I'm just curious why those friends hold many BTC if they know that it's going down

its really not that hard to believe someone would hold on to his bitcoin even tho he knows it might go down.

I'm doing it!

and i really do have 10K looking to buy cheap coins, IF i'm lucky enough. ( please no one tell my wife )

Well yeah everyone here knows with a 100% certainty that it will go down at some point in time. But i read that as rpietila implying that they're bears, and expect it to crash below $500, but yet for unknown reason still horde many BTC

Bill gates didn't get rich by selling his own stock, he was the biggest holder of MS.

and now one knows a damn thing about were the price is going...

look at the poll poeple believe, and they should, bitcoin lives up to the hype.

[adamstgBit]

Bill gates didn't get rich by selling his own stock, he was the biggest holder of MS.

yes he did... he just knew the right time to sell...

that BS.

he got rich by buying his own stock.

[Rampion]

china will go thru 5500 soon, they already punctured it and now they are oversold

Having seen my magic, perhaps you can now publicly acknowledge that I have 10,000 bitcoins, apologize, stfu and gtfo. OK?  

If you want to prove that just sign a message with an address holding 10k and put that signed message in your signature - no need for nobody to "acknowledge", that would be a hard cold proof.

That's pure non spoofable crypto, heart and soul of Bitcoin.

That's not hard cold proof. It's susceptible to Man in the Middle attack.

Care to elaborate that? How could rpietila perform "a man in the middle attack" and make bitcointalk.org users to believe he signed a message with an address holding 10k BTC if he is not in control of an address with such an amount?

Because there is nothing linking the Bitcoin address to his forum account. Hypothetically speaking, he could just ask a friend who has access to 10K BTC to sign a message and just post it. The difference is there is the possibility he can get 10K BTC account to sign a message, but he may not necessary control it.

But that's no man in the middle attack, in that case Risto would just be "borrowing" the coins for a specific purpose - signing the message, which is a proof he can have access (at least for that very purpose of signing the message) to 10k coins.

In any case, only a retard would accept to use 10k of his own coins to sign a message like "this coins belong to Risto Pietila", in practical terms Risto's "friend" would be handing to Risto the control of those bitcoins. That's like signing a contract, explain to a judge that "it was just a favor".

[adamstgBit]

Bill gates didn't get rich by selling his own stock, he was the biggest holder of MS.

yes he did... he just knew the right time to sell...

that BS.

he got rich by buying his own stock.

?


So all his fiat came from income?

No man, he has sold way more in terms of fiat than he bought... like magnitudes more.


He got rich cuz he sold at the right time...


Edit: Am i being trolled?

he sold right after win98 crashed while he was doing the demo?

your missing the point...

[notme]

Bill gates didn't get rich by selling his own stock, he was the biggest holder of MS.

yes he did... he just knew the right time to sell...

that BS.

he got rich by buying his own stock.

?


So all his fiat came from income?

No man, he has sold way more in terms of fiat than he bought... like magnitudes more.


He got rich cuz he sold at the right time...


Edit: Am i being trolled?

he sold right after win98 crashed while he was doing the demo?

your missing the point...

No, he sold right before it "crashed"

[seriouscoin]

Where is the Reptile man? I need his BS to be entertained.

Oh as well as his supernode meeting, is he having one soon?

[Vycid]

china will go thru 5500 soon, they already punctured it and now they are oversold

Having seen my magic, perhaps you can now publicly acknowledge that I have 10,000 bitcoins, apologize, stfu and gtfo. OK?  

If you want to prove that just sign a message with an address holding 10k and put that signed message in your signature - no need for nobody to "acknowledge", that would be a hard cold proof.

That's pure non spoofable crypto, heart and soul of Bitcoin.

That's not hard cold proof. It's susceptible to Man in the Middle attack.

Care to elaborate that? How could rpietila perform "a man in the middle attack" and make bitcointalk.org users to believe he signed a message with an address holding 10k BTC if he is not in control of an address with such an amount?

Because there is nothing linking the Bitcoin address to his forum account. Hypothetically speaking, he could just ask a friend who has access to 10K BTC to sign a message and just post it. The difference is there is the possibility he can get 10K BTC account to sign a message, but he may not necessary control it.

But that's no man in the middle attack, in that case Risto would just be "borrowing" the coins for a specific purpose - signing the message, which is a proof he can have access (at least for that very purpose of signing the message) to 10k coins.

In any case, only a retard would accept to use 10k of his own coins to sign a message like "this coins belong to Risto Pietila", in practical terms Risto's "friend" would be handing to Risto the control of those bitcoins. That's like signing a contract, explain to a judge that "it was just a favor".

No.

The owner of those coins could sign the message for him, perhaps for a fee. Risto would never need to control them. Virtualfaqs is right.

[Rampion]

china will go thru 5500 soon, they already punctured it and now they are oversold

Having seen my magic, perhaps you can now publicly acknowledge that I have 10,000 bitcoins, apologize, stfu and gtfo. OK?  

If you want to prove that just sign a message with an address holding 10k and put that signed message in your signature - no need for nobody to "acknowledge", that would be a hard cold proof.

That's pure non spoofable crypto, heart and soul of Bitcoin.

That's not hard cold proof. It's susceptible to Man in the Middle attack.

Care to elaborate that? How could rpietila perform "a man in the middle attack" and make bitcointalk.org users to believe he signed a message with an address holding 10k BTC if he is not in control of an address with such an amount?

Because there is nothing linking the Bitcoin address to his forum account. Hypothetically speaking, he could just ask a friend who has access to 10K BTC to sign a message and just post it. The difference is there is the possibility he can get 10K BTC account to sign a message, but he may not necessary control it.

But that's no man in the middle attack, in that case Risto would just be "borrowing" the coins for a specific purpose - signing the message, which is a proof he can have access (at least for that very purpose of signing the message) to 10k coins.

In any case, only a retard would accept to use 10k of his own coins to sign a message like "this coins belong to Risto Pietila", in practical terms Risto's "friend" would be handing to Risto the control of those bitcoins. That's like signing a contract, explain to a judge that "it was just a favor".

No.

The owner of those coins could sign the message for him. Risto would never need to control them. Virtualfaqs is right.

Meatspace equivalent: I can sign a contract in which I transfer to you the ownership of my house, but without ever handing to you the keys.

Finally:

If I have to prove on a forum that I own a $10M mansion, how about uploading a valid and verifiable contract of ownership of such mansion in my name? Wouldn't you consider that a proof of ownership?

Justin Bieber could be my friend and he could have signed a contract transferring to me the ownership of his mansion as a favour, but without ever handing to me the keys. I might never have intention to ask him for the keys nor to live in his mansion, I could just want to show off in here... But JB agreeing to underwrite such a contract is beyond retarded and plainly ridiculous. As retarded, ridiculous and unlikely as expecting someone to cryptographically sign a message such as "This 10k BTC belong to Risto Pietila" with an address holding 10k BTC that do NOT belong to Risto.

Probably you do not fully understand the strong implications of such a message - any cryptographically signed message is potentially binding, and that's why the QT client warns you about signing only messages to which content you fully agree. If Risto has such "friends" that sign those messages for him I congratulate and envy him.