Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion

[F-bernanke]

Some action at stamp, guessing via bitfinex?

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[Richy_T]

I've no doubt manipulation is going on, that's what happens when humans trade in something with no regulation. As a trader I need to be aware of it and profit from it when I can. It does make trading difficult atm though with such low volume because all it takes it ONE whale to sell a couple of hundred btc and all of a sudden we're crashing.

My biggest fear for btc in the very long term is not manipulation but the 173k btc the FBI have confiscated from the closing of Silk Rd. I understand Ulbricht has claimed the return of the btc, claiming that as virtual currency they cannot be forfeit as a proceed of crime, but seeing that judges confiscate anything of value in such cases he's on pretty thin ice. I believe these coins will eventually end up in the hands of the US government who will have far too much power - just think, 173k coins all sold on same day. It's a while off (I've no idea when this is coming to court or how the US government usually deal with liquidation of confiscated assets) but this is what we should be worried about.

One question related to those funds is if some of them might belong to people who committed no crimes (or at least have not been convicted of them). I'm have little doubt (in fact, I pretty much know for sure) that there's precedent for the cops just keeping the whole lot but still.

[runam0k]

One question related to those funds is if some of them might belong to people who committed no crimes (or at least have not been convicted of them). I'm have little doubt (in fact, I pretty much know for sure) that there's precedent for the cops just keeping the whole lot but still.

I'm still wondering how they got the coins. If he's claiming them back, it suggests he didn't hand them over (i.e. as part of deal). So, weak password?

[Richy_T]

Bitcoin is the means; ie: the protocol, on which applications run; like messages/monetary transactions and probably many more to come in the future. Or if you prefer "the river" that many "boats" will be floating. Whether a company (no matter how big or small) decides to (or not to) incorporate it to their marketing philosophy it's really their call. Eric Schmidt from Google yesterday said in an interview that "We should have been into social networking earlier". Maybe it's Apple's turn to pay (or not) the price for not getting into bitcoin.

The tide is starting to turn on Google, especially with their bullshit Nazi tactics for getting people to sign up for Google plus. The reason they didn't get into social networking earlier is the same reason for their success. Keeping things simple and straightforward. Produce fantastic search results with no cruft. They're going down the Altavista/Yahoo/MSN rabbit hole, just doing their best to dress it up differently.

[F-bernanke]

The tide is starting to turn on Google, especially with their bullshit Nazi tactics for getting people to sign up for Google plus.

+1,

Can't even watch Jewtube without being bothered with the google plus shit.

[Richy_T]

One question related to those funds is if some of them might belong to people who committed no crimes (or at least have not been convicted of them). I'm have little doubt (in fact, I pretty much know for sure) that there's precedent for the cops just keeping the whole lot but still.

I'm still wondering how they got the coins. If he's claiming them back, it suggests he didn't hand them over (i.e. as part of deal). So, weak password?

Maybe no password. If he didn't have the sense to have it distributed through multiple offline wallets with some kind of auto-drain for at least some of them...

[hdbuck]

One question related to those funds is if some of them might belong to people who committed no crimes (or at least have not been convicted of them). I'm have little doubt (in fact, I pretty much know for sure) that there's precedent for the cops just keeping the whole lot but still.

I'm still wondering how they got the coins. If he's claiming them back, it suggests he didn't hand them over (i.e. as part of deal). So, weak password?

i am guessing 'strong torture'

[Gryph]

Can't even watch Jewtube without being bothered with the google plus shit.

Completely off topic: but outta curiosity why is it called Jewtube? I keep hearing people referring to it as that. Is it unfriendly to non-jews? My asian buddy has a big channel (330k subs) and i'm wondering if he needs a heads up.

[F-bernanke]

Can't even watch Jewtube without being bothered with the google plus shit.

Completely off topic: but outta curiosity why is it called Jewtube? I keep hearing people referring to it as that. Is it unfriendly to non-jews? My asian buddy has a big channel (330k subs) and i'm wondering if he needs a heads up.

I find it funny, I have nothing against jews (except for the Rothschild banksters ofcourse).

[Gryph]

Can't even watch Jewtube without being bothered with the google plus shit.

Completely off topic: but outta curiosity why is it called Jewtube? I keep hearing people referring to it as that. Is it unfriendly to non-jews? My asian buddy has a big channel (330k subs) and i'm wondering if he needs a heads up.

I find it funny, I have nothing against jews (except for the Rothschild banksters ofcourse).

heheh, ah ok gotcha! 

I, and my big youtube friend agree: the Google plus integration is utterly shit. 

[aminorex]

mind you the bitcoin foundation would love it, say it legitimized bitcoin.  i think they have no reason to live if they don't file an anti-trust action against APPL.

Picking an anti-trust fight with AAPL?  Even if fun to watch it would sink them completely and gain us very little.  Bitcoin doesn't need AAPL as much as AAPL needs bitcoin.  Let them be the late adopters.

I'm sorry, AAPL, but it doesn't matter how good your lawyers are when you have NO CASE. 

[aminorex]

More merchants make for more money flow.  So yes It is bullish, even if you disagree.
A merchant converting to fiat does not reduce that flow, it just doesn't add to it as much as when the merchant uses it in their supply chain.  Then it increases the flow further.  It is a difference between a +1 and a +2 not the difference between a 0 and a +1.

The relevant equation for valuation is PQ = MV.  Learn it, love it, live it.  To determine the value of the money supply (the circulating funds, not the total theoretical supply, thank you Gresham) M=PQ/V.  The higher the velocity of money, the lower the value of each monetary unit.  The intuitive explanation is that the more things you can buy with a unit, the less the unit is worth.  Re-using the same unit means that it buys more stuff.  Of course this is only true once money velocity achieves orbit, but after that it is certainly and always true.  It is similar to the ideal gas law in that respect (and in many other respects).

[TERA]

Bitstamp/Bitfinex is crazy. People will just randomly buy or dump 1000 coins at market and absorb massive slippage when they could have saved about $20 grand if they juat spent a little more time making their trade.

[wachtwoord]

Bitstamp/Bitfinex is crazy. People will just randomly buy or dump 1000 coins at market and absorb massive slippage when they could have saved about $20 grand if they juat spent a little more time making their trade.

Makes you think how they acquired these amounts of wealth in the first place (other than luck).

[F-bernanke]

Bitstamp/Bitfinex is crazy. People will just randomly buy or dump 1000 coins at market and absorb massive slippage when they could have saved about $20 grand if they juat spent a little more time making their trade.

Could it be their goal to move the marketprice?

[wachtwoord]

Bitstamp/Bitfinex is crazy. People will just randomly buy or dump 1000 coins at market and absorb massive slippage when they could have saved about $20 grand if they juat spent a little more time making their trade.

Could it be their goal to move the marketprice?

Lol not the manipulation discussion again

[Nightowlace]

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[DaRude]

Bitstamp/Bitfinex is crazy. People will just randomly buy or dump 1000 coins at market and absorb massive slippage when they could have saved about $20 grand if they juat spent a little more time making their trade.

Could be just margin calls from finex

[Nightowlace]

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Sign me up.

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The dark years of Illuminati are over.

Once on the brink of extinction, the secret society has powerfully re-emerged in the United States.

In fact, it now wields more power than ever.

As founder of a major publication, Wall Street Daily, I can say the following with absolute conviction....

Illuminati was behind every consequential wealth event of the past year.

Its biggest coup was the emergence of bitcoin. (Crypto-currencies have always been the classic signature of Illuminati.)

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Illuminati's next bombshell will be even bigger.

It's scheduled to hit America in January.

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Illuminati members will get even richer.

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[JorgeStolfi]

Bitstamp/Bitfinex is crazy. People will just randomly buy or dump 1000 coins at market and absorb massive slippage

Could it be arbitrage trading?