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December 12, 2018, 12:07:37 AM

WTF!

I decided to take another try at trying to find out the history behind that 80000BTC dormant account tracing back some of the inputs.... and... Does that address belong to the EFF?!?!
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December 12, 2018, 12:08:10 AM

Actually..... I don't care anymore.

I'm gaining more and more stash. We'll see what it does. if it goes to zero and dies, it was a hell of a experience. Everything is paid for, no losses and no gains. If it doesn't... Wellllll, then i'm working on my early retirement right now, and save the major bulk for the homes of my children to give them a great headstart compared  to the rest of the masses, and start a easy life with less stress.
Best gift you can give your kids. Wink
Just nitpicking here, but don't spoil them too hard. Lots of rich dumbasses walking this world who never learned the joys of overcoming challenges. Can adapt challenges to fit one's lifestyle and net worth, but just throwing around handouts generally doesn't help. Otherwise solid post.

You are absolutely right. I tought them well and they respect money and the effort it takes to aquire it. Its just that when you CAN give it to them, it makes life so much more easy, and being able to focus the big picture. But yes, you preach a very wise lesson that many forget.
I started early by saving money for each when they were born to be able to pay for their studies, and they make use of it, (without having to start their career with a huge debt) and are very grateful i did. I truly love my kids, and they get to grow up to being responsible adults. Mission almost acomplished..😊 (and yes, they make me proud to be their dad..😎) Lets hope they will change my diapers in return when needed...😁😁
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December 12, 2018, 12:10:35 AM

WTF!

I decided to take another try at trying to find out the history behind that 80000BTC dormant account tracing back some of the inputs.... and... Does that address belong to the EFF?!?!

Then they have probably lost the keys....
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December 12, 2018, 12:10:57 AM

WTF!

I decided to take another try at trying to find out the history behind that 80000BTC dormant account tracing back some of the inputs.... and... Does that address belong to the EFF?!?!

that would be cool

I doubt it though, usually good stuff like that doesn't actually happen.
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December 12, 2018, 12:11:02 AM

WTF!

I decided to take another try at trying to find out the history behind that 80000BTC dormant account tracing back some of the inputs.... and... Does that address belong to the EFF?!?!

Barlow died bro :\ ~prolly jus' his rando pizza acct.  Cool  weeee

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qU9faHioQUU
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December 12, 2018, 12:25:30 AM
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WTF!

I decided to take another try at trying to find out the history behind that 80000BTC dormant account tracing back some of the inputs.... and... Does that address belong to the EFF?!?!

that would be cool

I doubt it though, usually good stuff like that doesn't actually happen.

Well, I will try to expose my steps at tracing it back to reach my conclusion and let's see where is the mistake I (probably) made:

- Address with a balance of 80000 BTC that hasn't moved since march 2011: 1FeexV6bAHb8ybZjqQMjJrcCrHGW9sb6uF

- Addresses that funded that balance in one single tx at 2011-03-01:

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1HGBF5vta4mfgmej8ZB4iTPx6yFsb6zvKy
184BCyFbhZBEGX9vvko9gbYaQt4Wj2HPNr
1J8ENxKSec9ghFvhfTrVjrBTvETEZNhqyF
1JcHoTwTa81HMYunR6uG4tB6zX3LpfaQti
1KWGJEJmSCu2hRA3vwTHKFE8173uRFQ6A8
1GcLjWwpAECpqZRghT1XEWuE6CS5FBLrmR
15uDPXE75Ed52qRJgsW7NwQ6ngDCJb5TDn
1FQtCEEEiLuFTvhbx4Z5fda3GXV5xXzmfN
1GPuT4JD1yKTEGnw2csTCqSAtS3DRiTD69
1FwnhahzYerpristjzo2iCSdFQUk9fGa1X
1H8jofCTJgMBgnNRTQarSdg2RXmzw94SMC
1BDLPfCCnvE6Uhx4ypbddGQhnxoSScbx8L
1CcbZBEDq4faZHaAK4BgodfyUkVfQjRiKK
1D6M2yfQiV1WoBxZym1ExCZDcKKh9uAjrK
14rb7YrJw5ifMM1Pr1oabVujuiEEW1vYqN
1BxLexhhFfHtrboVukidYsrYHLDPaH97A7
1BtXQwXjsvHpbBRrETsdZ7cG3XKMkNsVsp
1HHNNWFqAPqNdPQEUhT8keePvRKZXcq9DV
12AjENFa55qT27d2Tc4YTYtineh1dPHPpH
14Bn5mRas7dBc6pQSxQobN5RE49whMxVou
1Dc9jSB5W7HgyrsNN8P4Uy2FbidfgL4bwD
1F8Sy6P9NMqPrvpaSz5byPoP1poyNkeL8E
14crbtiapfwbiDgqCvMkkoqEAQwC1UF3Ra
16b3L5eiyFny9nggwmAjbtx6b4xjwJfu8y
1P6ZvBftEqhrvqWSWicWRHrbTeSKLFzJMy
16rRCLrmTa6Be8wQF7UkX5m765WqpuZjYn
1EC7bX9TucqzKL4aCRQb5UhsgdxdSn2w4z
   

I now assume all that addresses belong the same person. I guess this is not mistake.

Ok, now look at the last of those addresses:    1EC7bX9TucqzKL4aCRQb5UhsgdxdSn2w4z

It was funded with 6679BTC  on 2010-12-25. Thats its only funding, so again we assume all the funding addresses belong to the same individual. Maybe the mistake is here.

This are the funding addresses:

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1JTmqXYFfdjWW2Z6TvbkfPT8L8vHdKGyMc
1LEKtycHHRCqj2TBEiqPeBdiWYY3RFj3BU
144xPDeQsk7vXgmRWqzETGQSUuFKzY24zq
1CWtqXYyZT5crpX4Jf1fmML1vESxUnAF3P
126bMAWKb9JPt4Rc1gTvtoF9bew1SA8Uzm
1MCwBbhNGp5hRm5rC1Aims2YFRe2SXPYKt (cgt )
1BMt8dxBwreG3ALu8RPqNhvtWTC2rak7ii
1Gq6YyhbJpeJyLewQ1kRuMS6cXkuHZGjyt

Well, we can assume all that addresses for sure belong to the same "person" even if it not the same of the 1EC7bX9TucqzKL4aCRQb5UhsgdxdSn2w4z one.

The amount is around $1700 at the time.

And... here is the interesting point... who is this "person"?

Well 1MCwBbhNGp5hRm5rC1Aims2YFRe2SXPYKt (cgt ) is the old EFF donations addresses. It is assumed all the other also belong to them.

So..... Either the 80000BTC belongs to the EFF too.... or to "someone" the EFF would donate $1700 on 25 december 2010. Wait a min.... Maybe Wikileaks/Assange?!?!?

Please someone tell me where I am mistaken.



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December 12, 2018, 12:27:42 AM

After getting the umpteenth message asking me "why I hate bitcoin", or why I think people should support metals and boycott digital shitcoins, I have compiled it all into one post below:

Quote from: realr0ach
https://steemit.com/money/@r0achtheunsavory/the-r0ach-report-42-debt-enslavement-revolves-almost-entirely-around-creating-real-estate-bubbles

https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@r0achtheunsavory/the-r0ach-report-37-eldritch-horrors-await-those-who-put-their-faith-in-imaginary-paper-assets

https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@r0achtheunsavory/the-r0ach-report-33-the-world-enters-a-new-dark-ages-without-gold-and-silver-revaluation

https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@r0achtheunsavory/the-r0ach-report-31-of-the-numerous-lies-people-make-up-to-try-and-pump-bitcoin-this-is-the-worst

https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@r0achtheunsavory/the-r0ach-report-29-bitcoin-is-similar-to-the-double-slit-experiment-in-practice-it-only-works-if-you-don-t-use-it

https://steemit.com/science/@r0achtheunsavory/the-r0ach-report-25-computer-science-proves-the-existence-of-a-variable-known-as-god-but-not-what-god-actually-is

https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@r0achtheunsavory/the-r0ach-report-24-bitcoin-has-involuntarily-turned-many-programmers-into-conmen

https://steemit.com/money/@r0achtheunsavory/the-r0ach-report-23-the-achilles-heel-of-cryptocurrency-economic-fundamentals-seigniorage-fee

https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@r0achtheunsavory/the-r0ach-report-18-the-great-pow-lie

https://steemit.com/steemit/@r0achtheunsavory/the-r0ach-report-14-defining-if-cryptocurrency-has-a-value-or-zero-value-from-a-fundamental-scientific-perspective

https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@r0achtheunsavory/the-r0ach-report-13-why-the-economics-of-bitcoin-don-t-actually-work-what-satoshi-really-meant-when-he-said-the-price-would

https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@r0achtheunsavory/the-r0ach-report-vol-7-bitcoin-is-not-an-actual-store-of-value-because-there-is-no-real-price-floor-or-inelastic-demand
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December 12, 2018, 12:33:33 AM

What about this guy? -> 1FeexV6bAHb8ybZjqQMjJrcCrHGW9sb6uF (https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/1FeexV6bAHb8ybZjqQMjJrcCrHGW9sb6uF?offset=200&filter=6)

80000BTC. Hasn't moved since march 2011.

... who are you that you go trawling through everybody else's business, IRS??

pretty sure I know this guy and he's probably forgotten about this stuff, bitcoin just isn't important to him anymore, he's got a lot going on ...

just leave people the fuck alone sometimes would ya?
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December 12, 2018, 12:34:53 AM

So I guess we found Marcus’ stash
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December 12, 2018, 12:38:22 AM

What about this guy? -> 1FeexV6bAHb8ybZjqQMjJrcCrHGW9sb6uF (https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/1FeexV6bAHb8ybZjqQMjJrcCrHGW9sb6uF?offset=200&filter=6)

80000BTC. Hasn't moved since march 2011.

... who are you that you go trawling through everybody else's business, IRS??

pretty sure I know this guy and he's probably forgotten about this stuff, bitcoin just isn't important to him anymore, he's got a lot going on ...

just leave people the fuck alone sometimes would ya?
He just forgot about 80k BTC?
Holy shit...
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December 12, 2018, 12:38:45 AM
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What about this guy? -> 1FeexV6bAHb8ybZjqQMjJrcCrHGW9sb6uF (https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/1FeexV6bAHb8ybZjqQMjJrcCrHGW9sb6uF?offset=200&filter=6)

80000BTC. Hasn't moved since march 2011.

... who are you that you go trawling through everybody else's business, IRS??

pretty sure I know this guy and he's probably forgotten about this stuff, bitcoin just isn't important to him anymore, he's got a lot going on ...

just leave people the fuck alone sometimes would ya?

Crypto winter is boring, you know....
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December 12, 2018, 12:46:48 AM

... who are you that you go trawling through everybody else's business, IRS??

Money is a zero sum game system of control to replace the law of the jungle, so technically it's everyone's business since you have the option to choose whether it's a legit or remotely fair or beneficial system, or a rigged system that does not benefit you, then you can fall back to the law of the jungle and simply take from those who attempt to enslave you.
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December 12, 2018, 01:00:55 AM

WTF!

I decided to take another try at trying to find out the history behind that 80000BTC dormant account tracing back some of the inputs.... and... Does that address belong to the EFF?!?!

that would be cool

I doubt it though, usually good stuff like that doesn't actually happen.

Well, I will try to expose my steps at tracing it back to reach my conclusion and let's see where is the mistake I (probably) made:

- Address with a balance of 80000 BTC that hasn't moved since march 2011: 1FeexV6bAHb8ybZjqQMjJrcCrHGW9sb6uF

- Addresses that funded that balance in one single tx at 2011-03-01:

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1HGBF5vta4mfgmej8ZB4iTPx6yFsb6zvKy
184BCyFbhZBEGX9vvko9gbYaQt4Wj2HPNr
1J8ENxKSec9ghFvhfTrVjrBTvETEZNhqyF
1JcHoTwTa81HMYunR6uG4tB6zX3LpfaQti
1KWGJEJmSCu2hRA3vwTHKFE8173uRFQ6A8
1GcLjWwpAECpqZRghT1XEWuE6CS5FBLrmR
15uDPXE75Ed52qRJgsW7NwQ6ngDCJb5TDn
1FQtCEEEiLuFTvhbx4Z5fda3GXV5xXzmfN
1GPuT4JD1yKTEGnw2csTCqSAtS3DRiTD69
1FwnhahzYerpristjzo2iCSdFQUk9fGa1X
1H8jofCTJgMBgnNRTQarSdg2RXmzw94SMC
1BDLPfCCnvE6Uhx4ypbddGQhnxoSScbx8L
1CcbZBEDq4faZHaAK4BgodfyUkVfQjRiKK
1D6M2yfQiV1WoBxZym1ExCZDcKKh9uAjrK
14rb7YrJw5ifMM1Pr1oabVujuiEEW1vYqN
1BxLexhhFfHtrboVukidYsrYHLDPaH97A7
1BtXQwXjsvHpbBRrETsdZ7cG3XKMkNsVsp
1HHNNWFqAPqNdPQEUhT8keePvRKZXcq9DV
12AjENFa55qT27d2Tc4YTYtineh1dPHPpH
14Bn5mRas7dBc6pQSxQobN5RE49whMxVou
1Dc9jSB5W7HgyrsNN8P4Uy2FbidfgL4bwD
1F8Sy6P9NMqPrvpaSz5byPoP1poyNkeL8E
14crbtiapfwbiDgqCvMkkoqEAQwC1UF3Ra
16b3L5eiyFny9nggwmAjbtx6b4xjwJfu8y
1P6ZvBftEqhrvqWSWicWRHrbTeSKLFzJMy
16rRCLrmTa6Be8wQF7UkX5m765WqpuZjYn
1EC7bX9TucqzKL4aCRQb5UhsgdxdSn2w4z
   

I now assume all that addresses belong the same person. I guess this is not mistake.

Ok, now look at the last of those addresses:    1EC7bX9TucqzKL4aCRQb5UhsgdxdSn2w4z

It was funded with 6679BTC  on 2010-12-25. Thats its only funding, so again we assume all the funding addresses belong to the same individual. Maybe the mistake is here.

This are the funding addresses:

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1JTmqXYFfdjWW2Z6TvbkfPT8L8vHdKGyMc
1LEKtycHHRCqj2TBEiqPeBdiWYY3RFj3BU
144xPDeQsk7vXgmRWqzETGQSUuFKzY24zq
1CWtqXYyZT5crpX4Jf1fmML1vESxUnAF3P
126bMAWKb9JPt4Rc1gTvtoF9bew1SA8Uzm
1MCwBbhNGp5hRm5rC1Aims2YFRe2SXPYKt (cgt )
1BMt8dxBwreG3ALu8RPqNhvtWTC2rak7ii
1Gq6YyhbJpeJyLewQ1kRuMS6cXkuHZGjyt

Well, we can assume all that addresses for sure belong to the same "person" even if it not the same of the 1EC7bX9TucqzKL4aCRQb5UhsgdxdSn2w4z one.

The amount is around $1700 at the time.

And... here is the interesting point... who is this "person"?

Well 1MCwBbhNGp5hRm5rC1Aims2YFRe2SXPYKt (cgt ) is the old EFF donations addresses. It is assumed all the other also belong to them.

So..... Either the 80000BTC belongs to the EFF too.... or to "someone" the EFF would donate $1700 on 25 december 2010. Wait a min.... Maybe Wikileaks/Assange?!?!?

Please someone tell me where I am mistaken.






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December 12, 2018, 01:24:20 AM

He just forgot about 80k BTC?
Holy shit...

From how he writes, I'm thinking Schumacher type event. Anyway...
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Hello Crypto Compatriots,

It has been quite a while... Glad to be back.

Tears fill my eyes as I gaze through the ranks... So many comrades have fallen. The 2018 bear market has taken more than lives, it destroyed hopes and dreams.
Some unfortunate soldiers have given up on the their ideals, forgetting the possibility of a brighter future, one where Bitcoin overcomes the fiat tyranny.
And there are the ones who stand... You... You and You! The braves are still among us.
Whether you are a weathered veteran who already knew the tune, or a first timer, blue and angry, fear not!
It is time to reload, level up, and walk proud, as the story is far from over.

The honey badger may be beaten up and weary, but he's still standing.
Speaking of Badger, let's see what future lies for our broken hero.
Bit followed the long path at the feet of Mt King, too tired to climb, and still determined enough not to give in the sands of the desert of despair. He walked straight for as long as he could. Unfortunately, the road came to an abrupt end. A wall of rocky mountains stood firm ahead, forcing Badger to change directions. His only option was to head south, getting dangerously closer to the dreaded Reklands. home of the infamous Lord Rekt.

Here is the lay of the land:

I - Above 10,000 - Forbidden Eden

Beyond the green fields and pastures of the open plains lays one of the most enchanting region of Bulltardia. The Forbidden Eden is its name. Every crop harvested from its soil yields more than any other soil, and the fruits that grow from its trees have a incomparable sweetness. Would Bit reach the Forbidden Eden , he'd be able to rejuvenate and regain the strength that was drained by his bearish journey.

II - 10,000 - Wall of Ten

Erected by ten thousand men, the wall of ten protects the Forbidden Eden from Lord Rekt's army and other unwanted intruders. Bit will have to find a way through the weall if he wants to reach the Forbidden Eden , either via the gates or over the wall.

III - 6000 - VanEck Pass

The VanEck Pass is the safest and easiest way to cross the 6K rockies. Unfortunately, the pass is easy to miss and most of the roads that lead to it are in fact straying deeper into the valley, delaying voyagers with twists and turns.

IV - 2900~6000 - Valley of Confusion

Any adventurer who sets foot in the valley is immediately covered by a mantle of thick fog. Soon after, they will abandon their sense of logic and perception. It is said that the fog is nothing else but dangerous fumes of Hopium, released by the many geysers peppering the ground. Would Badger stay too long in the area, he might have trouble remembering which way to the moon, or even worse, why he came here at the first place.

V - 2800~2900 - Blood River

Legend goes that the river was dug by the hands of Lord Rekt himself, who then poured in its bed the blood of its victims. The river cascades into the great abyss to feed who-knows-what-lies-down-there.
A crossing boat (and toll taker) awaits at 2880. Let's hope the price to be too high for Badger to accept the ride.

VI - 900~2800 - Rektlands

There is nothing friendly about the doomed lands of Rektlands. If you ever pictured hell, that's most likely how it looks like, but worse. Its sovereign, Lord Rekt, feeds on the flesh and bones of the way too many poor souls that venture into those forsaken plains.

VII - 1250~1500 - The Altar of Ultimate Sacrifice
Everyone captured by Lord Rekt will be sacrificed to honor the beast. According to the lore, "One will be saved by the light of the Moon at the altar of blood". The so-called prophecy remains a myth, has no one has ever been rescued from the sacrificial knife. Once killed, the victims's body are consumed by Lord Rekt, and their blood poured into the sinister river.

VIII - 900 - The Last Hodler

The last living soul below known to live below 1K is called the last hodler. Even though he dwells in the land of Lord Rekt, he somehow escaped Rekt's torment by denying his existence. Years of hopium abuse have altered the Last Hodler's reality. Semi-conscious, he spends his day staring at the void of the abyss, physically lost but his mind dreaming the life of a bygone era.

IX - sub 900 - The Abyss

Nothing comes out alive from it... Nothing. And I don't want to talk about it.

Will Bit give another shot at the rockies or will he just take the path of least resistance? And for how long?

https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BTCUSD/a47Kioh9-The-One-Coin-to-Rule-Them-All-Chapter-II/

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December 12, 2018, 02:03:04 AM

I'm buying physical, small but regular purchases. Have been since a couple of months.

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Of course, bought some when the price dropped from $6k to nearly $3k... and buying small amounts during flat periods, too.  Also, have to keeps some dry power, in case there are more drops.

Weeeeeee.
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December 12, 2018, 02:08:07 AM

If no one is buying how the fuck the price stay there? Manipulation?

I am serious (this time), no one here seems to be buying right now, much less the "regular" people, so... who is buying to support the price?

No one will buy bear market. people are scared

you are scared

smart money isn't

and who's buying the cheap coins ?

I am not scared.
I don't know what do you mean with cheap coins. if you mean cheap bitcoin or other coins.
in case of other coins, some of them do 50% up in few minutes.

Of course, you are new to this thread, rebal15.

Coins, here, refers to bitcoins, unless otherwise specified.  So get the fuck out of here with your nonsense attempts to promote other crypto in this thread.  There are other threads, and forums for your baloney talk about other coins supposedly serving as better performers than bitcoin.  We frequently hear that kind of nonsensical attempts to distract folks and to trick them out of there bitcoin.. which is the main prize.    Tongue
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December 12, 2018, 02:10:31 AM

Of course, bought some when the price dropped from $6k to nearly $3k... and buying small amounts during flat periods, too.  Also, have to keeps some dry power, in case there are more drops.
I guess you, too, have some powder you hope you never have to fire.
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December 12, 2018, 02:13:30 AM

What about you mic? You are one of the most positive people on Bitcoin and for sure a convinced hodler but... are you BUYING right now?

i play for the coins .... my way for accumulation long term, and till now my fastest way as well, if any of my friends would sell for cash i buy instantly, as my good friend has sent FIAT as well to exchanges to BUY....

my last session of little more as a month ago was a sizeable amount that i did won so increased my stash right there....
this last two weeks i didn't buy any FIAT into BTC
but i'm looking to buy some between now and lower as well cause prices are just becoming a to big of opportunity.

also know i can play with people for fiat (poker) but just always playing for BTC cause it has been my best way to accumulate and as long that i'm doing good i will keep doing this as my main way to increase, also what i have on the cold storage is not leaving anymore, so if i would lose on this low prices, then i would absolute transfer FIAT to buy cheap BTC's and pay them out....

will be looking to transfer FIAT as well cause not many that i know are selling now for cash..... Roll Eyes



Good busy.

I'm waiting for fiat to buy more, should be before the end of the month.

Also daytrading some alts on order to accumulate more.

Really necessary, because I sold a great part of my stash to buy the Ducati and lost a lot on a long during this crash, no longer a member of the 21-club, by far. Will take a lot to get to be a member again.

Interesting... for some reason I assumed that when you bought that BEAUTIFUL Ducatti you did with a minor instead of a major part of your stash.

julian071 is an example of someone who dos not have enough patience to exercise deferred gratifications.

He did the same thing in around the $700 territory.  Bought a Ducatti and then crashed it... yet perhaps insurance money might have allowed him some pay off on the first one.  Likely, the second one came, as julian071 seems to admit, based on overextending himself in terms of maintaining an adequate and reasonable BTC stash.
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Totally unrelated. But just one click further: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSjsNzffUGQ
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