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Question: When will BTC get back above $70K:
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7/21 - 1 (1%)
7/28 - 11 (11.2%)
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8/11 - 7 (7.1%)
8/18 - 5 (5.1%)
8/25 - 7 (7.1%)
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January 05, 2019, 02:52:31 PM

hello to all of you guys in new crypto-2019-bitcoin year, i hope it will bring new hopes, new highs and all other best things for all of us!!...  Cool Wink

..and let me cheer you up a lil bit with my new btc memes  Smiley


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January 05, 2019, 02:53:24 PM

Post that uses legit number crunching data to determine that if you're not in the top 20% of men, you're a beta male and extrapolates you have no reason to exist post-tinder world:

https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2018/01/04/technology-and-female-hypergamy-and-the-inegalitarian-consequences/

I can manage an 8 if I actually put work into it and bother working out and all that, it's just not worth it, so I'll happily slide back down to a nice 7.9 and not have to really worry about anything.
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January 05, 2019, 02:56:24 PM

^ You are right. Stop whining. Just accept it.

And no, you are not an 8. No matter what delusional work you think you could put into it. You have never been (if you had you would be pretty happy with that reality), I can tell. And the older you get the lower the score. Forget about it and try to get some success in life to compensate.
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January 05, 2019, 02:59:48 PM
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Guys really, c'mon... I'm seeing 'This user is currently ignored.' ever other fucking post now...

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January 05, 2019, 03:01:05 PM

Bitcoin's 10 years anniversary party in Tel Aviv

Terrible.  Who the hell goes to a "bitcoin party"?  I don't go to any "physical silver bullion" parties?  That's how you can tell bitcoin is some type of delusional cult.  People worshipping the gnostic, false god anti-christ, (((Satoshi Nakamoto))), who has delivered to the world the perfect centralized govt tracking and control system of enslavement.

Silver bagholders cant afford a party and since white males and white females dont like you then of course you wont go to a party. However you will come to the 100k party but it wont really be you as you know it now, the Jews will have implanted chips in your brain to cure your mental illness bc they are so nice to retarded white people like you.

You hate other races bc they arent white, yet as a spokesman for the white race I can tell you 100 percent that white people dont like you.  Cry Your life is pretty much a lost cause Roll Eyes Even Andrew Anglin thinks you are nuts and he is a Bitcoiner who gets laid by black chicks.
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January 05, 2019, 03:01:57 PM

^You are right. Stop whining. Just accept it.

I actually had this argument before with a female satanist...yes...a...female satanist.  Girl was smart (as far as women go), probably insane, and believed god represents patriarchy and that "the devil" is actually representation of a woman.  In that manner, she believes she's being feminist by...worshipping satan.  Her claim was that it's good for patriarchy to die and that the so-called desirable men would be rewarded by it with the top x% of men receiving benefit and nobody else getting anything.  

So she's preaching both ultra-female hypergamy and satanism as a combination package.  Some of that segues into the whole conspiracy about the church killing women for being witches as just a cover for trying to preserve patriarchy by offing the unruly women instead.  The whole idea is pretty stupid since any type of harem of one dude banging 20 chicks is going to be a patriarchy by default.
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January 05, 2019, 03:03:00 PM

Post that uses legit number crunching data to determine that if you're not in the top 20% of men, you're a beta male and extrapolates you have no reason to exist post-tinder world:

https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2018/01/04/technology-and-female-hypergamy-and-the-inegalitarian-consequences/

I can manage an 8 if I actually put work into it and bother working out and all that, it's just not worth it, so I'll happily slide back down to a nice 7.9 and not have to really worry about anything.

Virgin default score is 1 Cheesy, wtf are you talking about an 8 Shocked Roll Eyes
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January 05, 2019, 03:06:58 PM

@r0ach Jesus, even when you are somewhat right about something you have to mix your insane shit with it. This time with.... satanism?
 
Nevermind, You are a lost cause and I don't want to keep upsetting the people that have you in ignore (that if they haven't ignored me already for feeding you). If some day you learn to behave we could discuss this things but while you keep showing your racism, insanity and lack of respect to other human beings this is going nowhere.

Be happy, if you can.
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January 05, 2019, 03:10:41 PM

Just curious... What you guys would say is the probability YOU give to Bitcoin to be over $10.000 at any moment during the next 4 years? honestly.
100.1%
No, really. Even 100% would be way too much.

Really.

Next four years ? That's an eternity for Bitcorn.

Considering that the next block halving will occur before the next four years, it's simple math and supply/demand that we'll be above $10k before then.

I BELIEVE !!!

Yeah but 100% doesn't exist in anything. Otherwise you would just sell everything and put it into Bitcoin again. Let's just say you consider a 95% chance? That is still a fucking awesome asymmetric bet!

https://www.businessinsider.nl/didi-taihuttu-sold-everything-for-bitcoin-fans-2017-12/?international=true&r=US

He's the famous man everyone knows from the news in Belgium & the Netherlands. Sold everything (incl his house) to invest in BTC . Some think he's insane, some think he's brilliant.
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January 05, 2019, 03:11:27 PM

@r0ach Jesus, even when you are somewhat right in something you have to mix your insane shit with it. This time with.... satanism?

It's not crazy.  I had no idea those people even existed, but apparently it's some type of popular opinion in radical feminism that god represents male patriarchy and the devil represents the female, and they somehow use that as an excuse to practice satanism or something.  I don't know all the specifics here, I just know it's an actual thing or delusion of some kind.  Probably more common than either of us wishes to believe lol:

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January 05, 2019, 03:15:03 PM

but I cannot read your misanthropy misogyny posts. Not in here anyway.

So you're either a cuck or female, of which, both of their opinions are worthless.  There's no "misogyny", simply an imbalance of nature where a bunch of dumb bimbos have managed to claw an ever increasing, unreasonable amount of power for themselves away from the natural order.  

Take the ridiculous Ocasio Cortez video on the news this morning of her dancing around in a circle like a fool.  If it was a man acting in that manner, they would be labeled either gay, a large child, a narcissist, a fool, or all of the above.  We are simply removing the double standards so Ocasio Cortez can be correctly labeled as some type of emotionally retarded, large child, narcissist fool just like a man would be.  Enjoy equality!



If all women were actually retarded Virgin Roach, then you might have a shot at getting one. Sucks for you though that they arent retarded so when they see you with your crazy paranoid facial expressions walking by they run. Shocked

Gembitz is a retarded hermaphrodite so thats why once we install the chips in your brain, you will get laid at the 100k party. By laid I mean you are gonna take it in the ass too.
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January 05, 2019, 03:18:36 PM
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Of course these people are stupid giving a 100% chance bitcoin goes to a trillion dollars.  Just like I said the other day, people like Peter Thiel probably own tens of thousands of these dumb things and yet he still says 50-80% chance of bitcoin dying.  You're not going to be a very good investor if you make up illogical propaganda and try to get yourself to believe it.

I think we're on the verge of a new phase for bitcoin and crypto in general that none of us have seen before or are aware of what is around the corner.

There are 2 significant aspects of that "phase" that will drive everything forward - one is good (progress towards mass and institutional adoption, at least as a store of value if not a means of exchange), the other is (potentially) a huge lurking iceberg - and that is the spectre of widespread and deep regulation.

I didn't realise how profound this was until I started thinking about crypto from an "accounting" point of view. Then a whole lot of peices of the jigsaw suddenly made sense all at once:

 • the ongoing consolidation of defining crypto as property by regulatory authorities
 • the emergence of the new Google for cryptocurrency networks, known as "Cointracker" and the algos it uses calculate tax. (It was in fact built by ex-Google engineers)
 • the market movements of the last year - in particular the huge alt ratios that encouraged intense coin-to-coin trading at the precise moment when the bitcoin/fiat valuations were at an all time high

What is the significance of defining crypto as "property" (say, as opposed to "currency"). Basically is means that any exit from an address is considered a disposal rather than an expenditure. This is profoundbecause in the event of a cryptocurrency audit (either on an individual or organisation), "partial" information always favours the regulatory authority. For example, lets say:

 • you have a partial trading history which you provide during an audit.....

When that's analysed, a bottom line for your portfolio holdings will emerge (which will be wrong). If that "calculated" portfolio says we have more bitcoin than you actually have, then we'll simply be taxed on the "disposal". i.e. they've got you either way - either you can account for the location of funds or you simply end up with a huge tax bill.

 • off-exchange trading/expenditure

Same thing here. It ends up in the interest of holders to disclose all incidental exchanges of crypto for other crypto or for anything in fact, because any address that's identified as being owned by a certain party at any point in time, if later found to be "emptied" is a juicy candidate for taxation.

Nor are "obfuscated chains" any use. They will simply be regarded as "disposals". (i.e. any purchase of a "privacy coin" will be seen as a disposal and taxed accordingly).

This is already happening. The UK for example just issued unambiguous guidelines 1 month prior to this years filing deadline, so everybody that's short has to liquidate at the bottom of the market to pay tax on Jan 2018 prices. Pretty deadly !

However, once we've "taken the pain" and passed through this phase, the shoe will be on the other foot. The institutions will have the green light to pump everything to Kingdom Come and the moon will come into view. However by that time it will be better to have "regulatory clean" crypto than "regulatory dirty". I already had to liquidate 30% of my holdings cos of being caught in this trap. I see it as the cost of getting my holdings through this phase - out of the "dark" and into the "light".  I'm hoping it's worth it !  Tongue
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January 05, 2019, 03:22:08 PM

I think we're on the verge of a new phase for bitcoin and crypto in general that none of us have seen before or are aware of what is around the corner.

Toknormal, I have personally seen your posts about craptocurrency being voted +0, -14 on Zerohedge.  I think you highly overestimate the general public's acceptance of them.  This website is a fucking echo chamber of insanity. Physical metals will stomp shitcoins and it's evident from any type of polling on a real website whose entire purpose isn't to pump and dump these centralized, imaginary, valueless tokens.
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January 05, 2019, 03:24:51 PM


Physical metals will stomp shitcoins

You're dreaming. "Physical metals" don't exist in any liquid quantity. Paper metals is what you're referring to and they're loaded with as much hazard as crypto. (Except they don't benefit from being limited in supply).
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January 05, 2019, 03:26:34 PM
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Guys really, c'mon... I'm seeing 'This user is currently ignored.' ever other fucking post now...

Yup. These days this thread is 60% It Observer.

If I was running it It would've been given the immediate boot. A lot of time would've been saved and a lot more minds would've been expanded. I don't understand why It continues to be interacted with.

InB4 'free speech'.

What about 'shit and boring speech'?

In previous beariness this thread basically died. Now it seems to be gazing at its navel so intently the optic nerves will grow tendrils that disappear into the abdomen.
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January 05, 2019, 03:30:40 PM

Physical metals will stomp shitcoins
You're dreaming. "Physical metals" don't exist in any liquid quantity.

If I was dreaming, your posts shilling for craptocurrency would not be getting +0 upvotes, -14 downvotes on Zerohedge.  I don't even know what you're trying to claim about "no liquid quantity" of metals.  There is no liquidity problem, only the problem that nobody will agree to sell at a ESF/BIS downwardly rigged price.  Mark to market and there's fine liquidity.
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If I was dreaming, your posts shilling for craptocurrency would not be getting +0 upvotes, -14 downvotes on Zerohedge.  I don't even know what you're trying to claim about "no liquid quantity" of metals.  There is no liquidity problem, only the problem that nobody will agree to sell at a ESF/BIS downwardly rigged price.  Mark to market and there's fine liquidity.

realr0ach nobody gives a s* about physical metals except gold-gazer hoarders with nothing better to do. Gold holdings are a waste of space and didn't do a damn thing for their investors during the most inflationary fiat period in modern history. They are not exciting. You can't build anything with them, use them, transmit them or even trade them (without a handy van, ship or a lorry).

Ask yourself what is gold (as a monetary function) ? A ledger. That's all, except not quite as good a ledger as bitcoin. It was ok in physical market days but is about as useful as moth eaten parachute in the modern world. Bitcoin is not trying to be "electronic gold". Gold was trying to be a "physical bitcoin". Except it falls short in the area of fungibility, divisibility and transmissibility.
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January 05, 2019, 03:49:01 PM

If I was dreaming, your posts shilling for craptocurrency would not be getting +0 upvotes, -14 downvotes on Zerohedge.  I don't even know what you're trying to claim about "no liquid quantity" of metals.  There is no liquidity problem, only the problem that nobody will agree to sell at a ESF/BIS downwardly rigged price.  Mark to market and there's fine liquidity.

realr0ach nobody gives a s* about physical metals except gold-gazer hoarders with nothing better to do. They are not exciting. You can't build anything with them.

You're not supposed to "build anything with them".  Money is supposed to be boring and unchanging, otherwise it's not fungible, and fungibility is required of money.  This is why you get so many downvotes on your Zerohedge posts. You just try to make up random bullshit and redefine what money is on the fly.

Money, not currency, has required traits and these arguments have already been had and settled over the course of thousands of years with people like Aristotle and Plato.  Aristole won, Plato lost.  Unless you buy into Plato Keynesianism and believe money can be a centralized, arbitrary instrument run by the govt.  You also type the same dumpster truck load of complete bullshit all shitcoiners do claiming they're decentralized when they're not.

Transaction validators are designed to centralize in every single one.  They're nothing but permissioned ledgers and govt tracking systems in practice.  They have built-in middlemen and do not remove counterparty risk even if they weren't designed to centralize.  So basically every single thing you type is a flat out pump and dumper lie.  Shitcoins do not qualify as money in any circumstance.  Currency - sure, because almost anything can be a currency; money - no.
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