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Question: What year will we achieve a new ATH?
2019 - 32 (28.8%)
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January 12, 2019, 09:59:12 PM
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don't give a fuck about ETFs, Bakkt and shit. they're the ones begging to be let into this bitcoin business, and i'd let them squirm for eternity if i was the one deciding to let them in. the truth is, it's the institutions that are going to get a boost on crypto's back, not the other way around. the floodgates have been opened, the wooden horse is already within the walls of Troy, the virus has spread. bitcoin doesn't need them, they're the ones who need it simply to stay relevant.
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January 12, 2019, 10:08:33 PM

Too funny. Trumps wants to appoint Ivanka as head of the World Bank

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/jan/12/ivanka-trump-world-bank-donald-trump-report

She can be appointed head of my wank bank



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January 12, 2019, 10:20:45 PM

My question is can you or anyone else give me their best argument as to why the bottom is in or not.

From my perspective, your question is inappropriate useless.

Bitcoin is a new emerging asset class, in the initial throes of price discovery. To attempt to time this market is madness. Price goes up; price goes down - you can't explain that. All we really know is:
1) whether or not the world knows it or not, it needs a permissionless uncensorable form of money free from the whims of central planners; and
2) a vanishingly small percentage of the world has yet awaken to postulate 1).

From these two, we can conclude that the long term trend is up, and will remain so until such time that the world at large is onboard.

Ignore the noise. Buy today all you can conceivably afford to lose. Hodl on.

Pit pat piffy wing wang wong.

Bear waxes bullish..  Set defcon3.   Reluctantly issues +1 WOsMerit..

Quite being so speciest. I've always been bullish. Publicly, even.

Thanks for the merit. Smiley

My condition is much more specific..and by many considered much more serious.


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I can think of at least one strong reason why satoshi would like to sow doubt about his existence.

So in your example of a possible scenario he (Satoshi) would come out and pretend to be a total dick to not be outed properly as a genius?

Or perhaps satoshi is a total dick. I mean, why not?

As I recall, the initial outing was not uttered by CSW.

Yes he did, he told various people 'in confidence' and left clues lying around in the hope they would be picked up.

https://www.newyorker.com/business/currency/bizarre-saga-craig-wright-latest-inventor-bitcoin

A particularity dickish thing to do.

Jbear

In your opinion, what are the odds that CSW is Satoshi?

I would be interested in you stating in clear terms what probability you consider this to be true?  I appreciate that certain things may be unknowable with present knowledge, but that is why we assign probabilities. 

So please tell us what is your probability that CSW is Satoshi.   

I have a vague curiosity as well. Personally, I have never had any interaction with Craig so all of my data is either second or third hand speculation. Be that as it may, what I am able to intuit tell's me that he is narcissistic to the point of arrogance. That he thrives on the attention that the uncertainty of he's identity creates and seems to have no problem at all dealing with what some could call shady personalities.
These things and other "facts" lead me to believe with 99.9% confidence that he is not Satoshi.

Logically the reasons behind hes unwillingness to disclose whether or not he controls the key to the genesis block make no sense too me.

Lets look at these rationally.

Pros
1) Revealing control of the genesis key basically tells the world it was never about money. Coins could and should have been dumped many times over if it had been.
2) Even controlling such a big stake of coins that there was a true belief in decentralization. A hands off approach or at least a behind the scenes one over the project direction has been encouraged.
3) The incredible social network effect that would happen to Bitcoin knowing that the creator was still around and interested in development.
4) Banishing doubt over dishonesty or fraudulent claims.
5) ?

Cons
1) Opsec becomes increasingly difficult.
2) The continuation or creation of a cult of personality.
3) Becoming(more of) a known fraud and liar.
4) ?


This is just a short list off the top of my head..I am sure it can be made much longer with some creativity.

https://cointelegraph.com/news/4-billion-lawsuit-against-craig-wright-moves-forward-as-judge-declines-dismissal-request

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/6309656/68/kleiman-v-wright/

Interesting how the last dump occurred about this time no?



I will be following this case with interest as I am sure many are. What are your thoughts jb?
 
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January 12, 2019, 10:30:53 PM
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Don’t mind MIC

Made the wrong chose of whiskey

Drunk as F***ing F***
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But enjoying the drunk feeling

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https://twitter.com/Bitstamp/status/1084117803744092162

Hal Finney:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=155054.0

https://nakamotoinstitute.org/finney/
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January 12, 2019, 10:36:38 PM

Have we already broken the 100 Hats resistance? I think we have
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January 12, 2019, 10:54:44 PM

Too funny. Trumps wants to appoint Ivanka as head of the World Bank

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/jan/12/ivanka-trump-world-bank-donald-trump-report

She can be appointed head of my wank bank



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Maybe if you could put a gag in her mouth so you wouldn't have to hear her.

And a bag on the head so you wouldn't have to see her face. Then maybe.

I would like to volunteer as a a gagging specialist.
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January 12, 2019, 11:18:42 PM

MORE WO's WANTED

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5096275.new#new
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Didn’t use the whiskey tasting set yet, but gonna try already one
Which one to take
@BTCMILIONAIRE ??
Probably late, but I'd go with Glenfiddich or Macallan. The former is pretty smooth and easy to get into.
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January 12, 2019, 11:23:26 PM

I surrender to the "hat-cult"  too Grin.
Made an avatar (for the first time).

If xhomerx10 will feel like making a hat, it would be nice. Thanks.

F*** I'm drunk

am I seeing an AVATAR on biodom?
nice join the HAT cult

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on the other hand why not, they come from one of the most gently person of the whole FORUM..... who wouldn't like to have an XhomerX sized avatar

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January 12, 2019, 11:27:51 PM
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Just bought some on the spike down to $3590.  While I don’t think the bottom is in, I am also being very defensive.

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Didn’t use the whiskey tasting set yet, but gonna try already one
Which one to take
@BTCMILIONAIRE ??
Probably late, but I'd go with Glenfiddich or Macallan. The former is pretty smooth and easy to get into.

dammit I chivas regalt that whiskey, and still not used to it, it came in a normal glass with a small glass with ice on the side
just drunk it out of the glass with no ice
drunk it slow kept it a few seconds in the mouth.... ( tasted better as the first time) curious for the next one Cheesy
doing my best with this

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January 12, 2019, 11:33:25 PM
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For those understanding poker ..... I raise preflop, fish calls.... flop j94 rainbow.... sb opens I push all in and he calls


Please let him keep playing

Mic running a little behind @the Total balance of 3 sessions

Come sunday or next week Smiley

Unless the pot odds were correct generally only fish raise all-in on the turn, especially if this ends up being an over-bet. Given the opponent had possibly --9 Hearts, 2 9's and 3 Kings as outs (Kings were not outs since you had one, but opponent did not know this), the pot odds could have been in their favor to call.
Without all of this information it is difficult to justify the other person's rationale with just one screenshot.
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January 12, 2019, 11:33:36 PM

Just bought some on the spike down to $3590.  While I don’t think the bottom is in, I am also being very defensive.



being defensive earns MERIT
and i'm back on 50% of my sending stack

CHEERS HAIRY

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For those understanding poker ..... I raise preflop, fish calls.... flop j94 rainbow.... sb opens I push all in and he calls


Please let him keep playing

Mic running a little behind @the Total balance of 3 sessions

Come sunday or next week Smiley

Unless the pot odds were correct generally only fish raise all-in on the turn, especially if this ends up being an over-bet. Given the opponent had possibly --9 Hearts, 2 9's and 3 Kings as outs (Kings were not outs since you had one, but opponent did not know this), the pot odds could have been in their favor to call.
Without all of this information it is difficult to justify the other person's rationale with just one screenshot.





absolutely right POOLMINOR YOU have played poker as well
preflop I was the agressor, the blinds @the HU's we play where already high .... cause he already BET the flop he just couldn't lay down, I know its a must CALL but I hate a F***ing 14% to win
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nice post @poolminor
NOW add a price Roll Eyes

also my last MERIT is on its way
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For those understanding poker ..... I raise preflop, fish calls.... flop j94 rainbow.... sb opens I push all in and he calls


Please let him keep playing

Mic running a little behind @the Total balance of 3 sessions

Come sunday or next week Smiley

Unless the pot odds were correct generally only fish raise all-in on the turn, especially if this ends up being an over-bet. Given the opponent had possibly --9 Hearts, 2 9's and 3 Kings as outs (Kings were not outs since you had one, but opponent did not know this), the pot odds could have been in their favor to call.
Without all of this information it is difficult to justify the other person's rationale with just one screenshot.





absolutely right POOLMINOR YOU have played poker as well
preflop I was the agressor, the blinds @the HU's we play where already high .... cause he already BET the flop he just couldn't lay down, I know its a must CALL but I hate a F***ing 14% to win
Cheesy Cheesy

nice post @poolminor
NOW add a price Roll Eyes

also my last MERIT is on its way


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January 12, 2019, 11:59:50 PM

My first experience with poker in Las Vegas many years ago:

Got to a machine, inserted 25c (or was it a 25c token?).
First hand-royal flush, instantaneous win of $250, and it would have been 10K if I wagered $1 instead of a quarter.
Nice...although apart from risky stocks and btc, I am not really a gambling person, so I spent those $250 on dinners, etc., did not try to take down the "house".
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For those understanding poker ..... I raise preflop, fish calls.... flop j94 rainbow.... sb opens I push all in and he calls


Please let him keep playing

Mic running a little behind @the Total balance of 3 sessions

Come sunday or next week Smiley

Now I know how nocoiners feel when you try to explain crypto to them....

You keep flopping those fishes, buddy. Make us proud.
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For those understanding poker ..... I raise preflop, fish calls.... flop j94 rainbow.... sb opens I push all in and he calls


Please let him keep playing

Mic running a little behind @the Total balance of 3 sessions

Come sunday or next week Smiley

Now I know how nocoiners feel when you try to explain crypto to them....

You keep flopping those fishes, buddy. Make us proud.

the one that won the POT is my biggest coiner hodler friend  that i know Cheesy Cheesy

but nonetheless I have had my suckouts against him as well

I'm just the classic complainer (only to tell the BADluck hands never when I was sitting on the right side of the table)

so far I know all players are like that except 1 that I play with his just SOBER always ....

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