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January 16, 2019, 11:13:47 PM


I don't know why I'm replying. But... not. even. close.
Each block is stacked on top of the previous one. Adding another block to the top makes all lower blocks more difficult to remove: there is more "weight" above each block. A transaction in a block 6 blocks deep (6 confirmations) will be very difficult to remove.
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January 16, 2019, 11:28:01 PM

tyvm 4 the merits, guys
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Saw that on CoinGecko - but 'zero' volume is listed... Are they pre-order prices on an exchange?
I was chilling in the grin discord just to check it out, supposedly people are buying and selling to themselves to rig the price.  If you are actually interested I would hold off on purchasing any until the market settles.

Btw they couldnt come up with a better name than grin? Huh
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January 16, 2019, 11:33:12 PM
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Sideways, sideways....

Well... After the btcmillionaire more than successful subject about creating a self sustainable pond in his property... I would like to ask.... Anyone here has fully self-sustainable solar powered property? I have studied a lot about it, but some real life experience from another fellow WO'er would be great.

I think it is already at the point where it is cost efficient (more so considering where I live... SUN all the time!) and I am perfectly capable of doing everything myself and know my shit about buying stuff for way less that its usual price (either second hand or surplus) which will also help reduce the total cost substantially.

The property already has its own waterwell with enough capacity to fill the 125000 litres pool over a couple days. So it is only the power grid what I would like to cut off for a completely self sustainable property. My dream!

Will WO also deliver this time? lol
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January 16, 2019, 11:34:25 PM

From current prices what crypto do you think will 10x first, Ethereum or Bitcoin?

Both ETH and BTC will not make 10X so forget 10X and get into seeing bitcoin being used as a means of payments worldwide, this should be our main objective

Kinda goes one with other. Cant transact huge amounts of money and transactions with something that has small value per unit, if it is meant to be a global payment system one bitcoin must be huge, broken into satoshis ofcourse. Or it will be underground, in which case it can be at 3k or under.
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January 16, 2019, 11:59:09 PM

tyvm 4 the merits, guys
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Grin prices so far
 24h Low / 24h High    $81.75 / $261.65


Saw that on CoinGecko - but 'zero' volume is listed... Are they pre-order prices on an exchange?
I was chilling in the grin discord just to check it out, supposedly people are buying and selling to themselves to rig the price.  If you are actually interested I would hold off on purchasing any until the market settles.

Btw they couldnt come up with a better name than grin? Huh
I'll just wait until the copy "laughter" is launched with a limited supply.
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January 17, 2019, 12:14:00 AM
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Have you watched this? Its an interesting Bitcoin documentary Cheesy
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January 17, 2019, 12:14:05 AM
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The 21 million limit and block reward reductions are not set in stone. All it takes is consensus and these things can be changed.

Easier said than done.  Good luck with those kinds of core change proposals that you believe to be so potentially malleable.
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January 17, 2019, 12:19:33 AM

tyvm 4 the merits, guys
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Grin prices so far
 24h Low / 24h High    $81.75 / $261.65


Saw that on CoinGecko - but 'zero' volume is listed... Are they pre-order prices on an exchange?
maybe refresh?
Trading Volume    $7,471.83
no, there was some of that going on before, but this is real volume. most of the trade though so far has been otc. been watching deals https://gitter.im/grin_community/Lobby similar prices

Yep, got it - will check OTC too, thanks!

I would take those prices with a grain of salt until we see open trading on an actual exchange.
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January 17, 2019, 12:34:24 AM

It's an exchange  - bitforex.com . price came down to 26 dollars now
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January 17, 2019, 12:39:06 AM

It's an exchange  - bitforex.com . price came down to 26 dollars now

Nice spread.  $10 buy side $78 sell side. 
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January 17, 2019, 12:43:41 AM

I know at some point we will see it above $100k and I can't afford to miss it.

I can’t afford to miss it either & I have no intention of selling a large portion of my stash until we see $100,000 per coin.

I won’t sell nothing during the next epic bull run like this time. I’m cool with not selling at $20,000 but I’m not going through another multi year bear market sitting on my fucking hands again.

The next bull run will make my life & probably several generations of my families lives after I’m gone.

I won't even sell that much at $100K if/when it ever comes. Just "enough".

That's another thing. Even If it hits $100k I don't want to dump all I got. Only half. I always feel like I should be buying twice of what I usually buy. It is not just about the price, no matter what happens I just want to hold some coins because you'll never know what the future is going to bring.

Sure I want to live a happy life but I don't want to miss a happier life.  Grin

Exactly, that is why it remains a prudent practice to buy some portion more than what you intend to HODL for the long term.  buying double seems to be a bit of an overkill, yet I understand that each person finds his/her proper balance, such as buying an extra 20% or 50% or whatever amount that makes it comfortable to sell those off as the price goes up and to continue to be able to maintain a decently sized ongoing "in" position.
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January 17, 2019, 12:44:42 AM

Have to urge myself into ME HODLcrib.......

Cause tomorrow bearmarket/poker/clash with crazy F*** players (if I remember last session)
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Hope to pick up Some cheap corn (actualy price don’t matter amount of BTC always is the same Roll Eyes )
But just for good thoughts Smiley Cheesy
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January 17, 2019, 12:59:53 AM

From current prices what crypto do you think will 10x first, Ethereum or Bitcoin?

Both ETH and BTC will not make 10X so forget 10X and get into seeing bitcoin being used as a means of payments worldwide, this should be our main objective

Two shills battling for a bitcoin narrative.    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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January 17, 2019, 01:03:06 AM



Why two merits for this image? What am I missing here? Undecided

Price movements like Bart’s hair

- Bart
- De-bart
- Bart
- De-bart

We’ve been stuck in this shitty range for ages now

Up, down, up, down, up, down in small (ish) increments

In 2015, we were stuck in a price range that was largely in the mid $200s for a bit more than 8 months, so currently, we are quite a distance from that level of stagnation.  I am thinking that it could be good to be stuck here for a bit longer, and I would prefer this range than to go below $3k and get stuck in a lower range, if that were to happen, which is certainly possible.
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Sideways, sideways....

Well... After the btcmillionaire more than successful subject about creating a self sustainable pond in his property... I would like to ask.... Anyone here has fully self-sustainable solar powered property? I have studied a lot about it, but some real life experience from another fellow WO'er would be great.

I think it is already at the point where it is cost efficient (more so considering where I live... SUN all the time!) and I am perfectly capable of doing everything myself and know my shit about buying stuff for way less that its usual price (either second hand or surplus) which will also help reduce the total cost substantially.

The property already has its own waterwell with enough capacity to fill the 125000 litres pool over a couple days. So it is only the power grid what I would like to cut off for a completely self sustainable property. My dream!

Will WO also deliver this time? lol

I am certainly not an expert, but are you building new, or retrofitting an existing AC wired home/building? With solar I think you have two main choices to wind up with usable electricity: Use an inverter to convert it to AC to run your existing appliances (expensive), or build new, with larger wiring in the walls for DC (to avoid voltage drop), then find all DC appliances (expensive). Many do that with camping and RV appliances.

That is on top of the power generation itself. Then if you want to watch TV at night (or whatever) you need batteries/storage (expensive).

I don't know what your weather is, but you can get better BTUs per dollar of heating perhaps with a passive heat storage, and pump heated water around. Perhaps gravel beds under the house, and/or water for thermal storage. If you need air conditioning, you need a serious inverter (expensive) or RV AC unit. I haven't looked, there are surely green-type DC appliances now that are better than using camping/RV appliances. It would look funny for your luxurious BTC millionaire home to have tiny RV fridges around...

If you are building new, it's much easier to implement some of this stuff, compared to retrofitting.  I am not an expert.

A 125000 liter pool doesn't sound very large (is this a swimming pool?), where I am from ponds are small (measured in tens of thousands of gallons), and lakes are measured in acres. Depending on your weather, perhaps some sort of geothermal involvement could help, and that takes a lot of power for all the pumping.
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 Don't worry, I have a plan for our little friend.  No whitepaper yet but I think those are overkill and cause a lot of unnecessary infighting.



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