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Not your keys not your Bitcoin  Roll Eyes

It's never your bitcoin even if you do have the key.  It's not possible to take possession of a bitcoin.  Just like cloud computing, your shitcoin resides in the virtual cloud and you have to pay a ransom fee and ask permission to a transaction validator if he will allow you to do anything with it.  The fact coins are non-fungible, transaction validators are designed to centralize, and transaction validators have the ability to blacklist funds, means the system is nothing but a permissioned ledger, Orwellian piece of garbage similar to the Chinese social credit score system.

This is why the kikes in congress said they will attempt to ban any 'anonymous' craptocurrency.  They know non-fungible coins always lead to their dystopian slave coin goal while fungible ones are just like deleting AML/KYC.  Fungible coins will still be a dystopia anyway, just not as big of one.  It will still centralize into a tiny amount of mining pools the bankers/govt will take control of and take a cut out of every transaction to make themselves permanently richer than everyone else.  It's no different than collecting a steady stream of interest.

So, what's the problem that they confiscate your gold?

Bullshit post.  The only top line hierarchical form of consensus in the real world is force.  Your shitcoins can be made unspendable or blacklisted by the designed to centralize transaction validators, or rendered unusable by numerous other factors.  They have built-in middlemen and don't remove counterparty risk.  In other words, you don't even have to apply direct force to stop their use or confiscate them such as PoW cultist retards would like you to believe. They can be directly attacked or side channel attacked.

Physical metals, on the other hand, DO require direct force to confiscate them.  There is no fucking 'side channel' attack on physical metals.  If you want to attempt to steal them, prepare to die trying to take them. There's no actual way to attempt to defend yourself against the theft, destruction, or immobilization of your digital shitcoins.  The direct application of force can be entirely bypassed and you can be rendered broke with no defense precisely because shitcoins have built-in middlemen and don't remove counterparty risk.  

There IS NO NASH EQUILIBRIUM to protect you from anything because it's designed to centralize.  It's a cuck system where you're just standing out there like a sitting duck waiting to be cucked.

Who's / Who are the main supplier(s)/holder(s)/controller(s)/miner(s) of gold in the World?

How would you protect yourself when Government(s) ban gold trading and make it punishable?

Unlike bitcoin, it doesn't matter who currently owns or runs whatever minining camp in physical gold, silver, or copper.  Metals remove middlemen and counterparty risk, so it doesn't matter at all.  All that matters is what you have in your hand.  As opposed to bitcoin where people think or make believe they actually own a coin when they don't, otherwise they wouldn't constantly be looking over their shoulder to do things like look up mining pool centralization. You never own a bitcoin.  It's not possible to take delivery of a bitcoin.  It's cloud banking just like cloud computing aka horrible.

As for the government, I do not give a flying shit what the Jewish occupied govt says.  The evil cult of Judaism is my enemy.  There are 300 million goyim sleeper cells in the US alone ready to expel the Jew just like they've been expelled from nations 300+ times before.  It's inevitable they are given the boot.
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^This brief time span in history will be known as the period where women erroneously thought they were more intelligent and more important than men simply because they spent orders of magnitude more time and money on physical appearance, clothes, and putting on makeup.  Everything is presentation and no substance.
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Not your keys not your Bitcoin  Roll Eyes

It's never your bitcoin even if you do have the key.  It's not possible to take possession of a bitcoin.  Just like cloud computing, your shitcoin resides in the virtual cloud and you have to pay a ransom fee and ask permission to a transaction validator if he will allow you to do anything with it.  The fact coins are non-fungible, transaction validators are designed to centralize, and transaction validators have the ability to blacklist funds, means the system is nothing but a permissioned ledger, Orwellian piece of garbage similar to the Chinese social credit score system.

This is why the kikes in congress said they will attempt to ban any 'anonymous' craptocurrency.  They know non-fungible coins always lead to their dystopian slave coin goal while fungible ones are just like deleting AML/KYC.  Fungible coins will still be a dystopia anyway, just not as big of one.  It will still centralize into a tiny amount of mining pools the bankers/govt will take control of and take a cut out of every transaction to make themselves permanently richer than everyone else.  It's no different than collecting a steady stream of interest.

So, what's the problem that they confiscate your gold?

Bullshit post.  The only top line hierarchical form of consensus in the real world is force.  Your shitcoins can be made unspendable or blacklisted by the designed to centralize transaction validators, or rendered unusable by numerous other factors.  They have built-in middlemen and don't remove counterparty risk.  In other words, you don't even have to apply direct force to stop their use or confiscate them such as PoW cultist retards would like you to believe. They can be directly attacked or side channel attacked.

Physical metals, on the other hand, DO require direct force to confiscate them.  There is no fucking 'side channel' attack on physical metals.  If you want to attempt to steal them, prepare to die trying to take them. There's no actual way to attempt to defend yourself against the theft, destruction, or immobilization of your digital shitcoins.  The direct application of force can be entirely bypassed and you can be rendered broke with no defense precisely because shitcoins have built-in middlemen and don't remove counterparty risk.  

There IS NO NASH EQUILIBRIUM to protect you from anything because it's designed to centralize.  It's a cuck system where you're just standing out there like a sitting duck waiting to be cucked.

Who's / Who are the main supplier(s)/holder(s)/controller(s)/miner(s) of gold in the World?

How would you protect yourself when Government(s) ban gold trading and make it punishable?

Unlike bitcoin, it doesn't matter who currently owns or runs whatever minining camp in physical gold, silver, or copper.  Metals remove middlemen and counterparty risk, so it doesn't matter at all.  All that matters is what you have in your hand.  As opposed to bitcoin where people think or make believe they actually own a coin when they don't, otherwise they wouldn't constantly be looking over their shoulder to do things like look up mining pool centralization. You never own a bitcoin.  It's not possible to take delivery of a bitcoin.  It's cloud banking just like cloud computing aka horrible.

As for the government, I do not give a flying shit what the Jewish occupied govt says.  The evil cult of Judaism is my enemy.  There are 300 million goyim sleeper cells in the US alone ready to expel the Jew just like they've been expelled from nations 300+ times before.  It's inevitable they are given the boot.

Metals don't really remove middle men, we end up using paper representations of gold instead of gold. Because the middleman / goldsmith / banker made it easier and safer to use them and in returnthey gave us paper certificates that were as good as gold. This is how it evolved.
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February 09, 2019, 10:07:03 PM

Not your keys not your Bitcoin  Roll Eyes

It's never your bitcoin even if you do have the key.  It's not possible to take possession of a bitcoin.  Just like cloud computing, your shitcoin resides in the virtual cloud and you have to pay a ransom fee and ask permission to a transaction validator if he will allow you to do anything with it.  The fact coins are non-fungible, transaction validators are designed to centralize, and transaction validators have the ability to blacklist funds, means the system is nothing but a permissioned ledger, Orwellian piece of garbage similar to the Chinese social credit score system.

This is why the kikes in congress said they will attempt to ban any 'anonymous' craptocurrency.  They know non-fungible coins always lead to their dystopian slave coin goal while fungible ones are just like deleting AML/KYC.  Fungible coins will still be a dystopia anyway, just not as big of one.  It will still centralize into a tiny amount of mining pools the bankers/govt will take control of and take a cut out of every transaction to make themselves permanently richer than everyone else.  It's no different than collecting a steady stream of interest.

So, what's the problem that they confiscate your gold?

Bullshit post.  The only top line hierarchical form of consensus in the real world is force.  Your shitcoins can be made unspendable or blacklisted by the designed to centralize transaction validators, or rendered unusable by numerous other factors.  They have built-in middlemen and don't remove counterparty risk.  In other words, you don't even have to apply direct force to stop their use or confiscate them such as PoW cultist retards would like you to believe. They can be directly attacked or side channel attacked.

Physical metals, on the other hand, DO require direct force to confiscate them.  There is no fucking 'side channel' attack on physical metals.  If you want to attempt to steal them, prepare to die trying to take them. There's no actual way to attempt to defend yourself against the theft, destruction, or immobilization of your digital shitcoins.  The direct application of force can be entirely bypassed and you can be rendered broke with no defense precisely because shitcoins have built-in middlemen and don't remove counterparty risk.  

There IS NO NASH EQUILIBRIUM to protect you from anything because it's designed to centralize.  It's a cuck system where you're just standing out there like a sitting duck waiting to be cucked.

Who's / Who are the main supplier(s)/holder(s)/controller(s)/miner(s) of gold in the World?

How would you protect yourself when Government(s) ban gold trading and make it punishable?

Unlike bitcoin, it doesn't matter who currently owns or runs whatever minining camp in physical gold, silver, or copper.  Metals remove middlemen and counterparty risk, so it doesn't matter at all.  All that matters is what you have in your hand.  As opposed to bitcoin where people think or make believe they actually own a coin when they don't, otherwise they wouldn't constantly be looking over their shoulder to do things like look up mining pool centralization. You never own a bitcoin.  It's not possible to take delivery of a bitcoin.  It's cloud banking just like cloud computing aka horrible.

As for the government, I do not give a flying shit what the Jewish occupied govt says.  The evil cult of Judaism is my enemy.  There are 300 million goyim sleeper cells in the US alone ready to expel the Jew just like they've been expelled from nations 300+ times before.  It's inevitable they are given the boot.

Not giving a flying shit is not eliminating the problem, is it?

Metals do not remove middlemen or at least in the way they are today.  I remember some time ago you suggested that we can go and try mine gold by the river ourselves, but where are the biggest sources of gold in the world? Are they by the rivers or they are in the mines and to access/use this mines you need  a)big capital (in government's toilet paper, not in gold) and in most cases  b) permission from your enemy - the evil cult of Judaism a.k.a government. So tell me how would we fix that?
What would happen if gold miners decide to keep the gold for themselves, buy most of the gold back and control it how they want? (with cooperation from the Government of course)
There are historical cases where powerful cooperations (not corporations, but it can be true too) did this. Buying gold in large quantities and over the market price and then controlling the supply. It was so popular around the world wars.  

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^This brief time span in history will be known as the period where women erroneously thought they were more intelligent and more important than men simply because they spent orders of magnitude more time and money on physical appearance, clothes, and putting on makeup.  Everything is presentation and no substance.

You're just a little grumpy because you'll never have kids. aren't you?
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Not your keys not your Bitcoin  Roll Eyes

It's never your bitcoin even if you do have the key.  It's not possible to take possession of a bitcoin.  Just like cloud computing, your shitcoin resides in the virtual cloud and you have to pay a ransom fee and ask permission to a transaction validator if he will allow you to do anything with it.  The fact coins are non-fungible, transaction validators are designed to centralize, and transaction validators have the ability to blacklist funds, means the system is nothing but a permissioned ledger, Orwellian piece of garbage similar to the Chinese social credit score system.

This is why the kikes in congress said they will attempt to ban any 'anonymous' craptocurrency.  They know non-fungible coins always lead to their dystopian slave coin goal while fungible ones are just like deleting AML/KYC.  Fungible coins will still be a dystopia anyway, just not as big of one.  It will still centralize into a tiny amount of mining pools the bankers/govt will take control of and take a cut out of every transaction to make themselves permanently richer than everyone else.  It's no different than collecting a steady stream of interest.

So, what's the problem that they confiscate your gold?

Bullshit post.  The only top line hierarchical form of consensus in the real world is force.  Your shitcoins can be made unspendable or blacklisted by the designed to centralize transaction validators, or rendered unusable by numerous other factors.  They have built-in middlemen and don't remove counterparty risk.  In other words, you don't even have to apply direct force to stop their use or confiscate them such as PoW cultist retards would like you to believe. They can be directly attacked or side channel attacked.

Physical metals, on the other hand, DO require direct force to confiscate them.  There is no fucking 'side channel' attack on physical metals.  If you want to attempt to steal them, prepare to die trying to take them. There's no actual way to attempt to defend yourself against the theft, destruction, or immobilization of your digital shitcoins.  The direct application of force can be entirely bypassed and you can be rendered broke with no defense precisely because shitcoins have built-in middlemen and don't remove counterparty risk.  

There IS NO NASH EQUILIBRIUM to protect you from anything because it's designed to centralize.  It's a cuck system where you're just standing out there like a sitting duck waiting to be cucked.

Who's / Who are the main supplier(s)/holder(s)/controller(s)/miner(s) of gold in the World?

How would you protect yourself when Government(s) ban gold trading and make it punishable?

Unlike bitcoin, it doesn't matter who currently owns or runs whatever minining camp in physical gold, silver, or copper.  Metals remove middlemen and counterparty risk, so it doesn't matter at all.  All that matters is what you have in your hand.  As opposed to bitcoin where people think or make believe they actually own a coin when they don't, otherwise they wouldn't constantly be looking over their shoulder to do things like look up mining pool centralization. You never own a bitcoin.  It's not possible to take delivery of a bitcoin.  It's cloud banking just like cloud computing aka horrible.

As for the government, I do not give a flying shit what the Jewish occupied govt says.  The evil cult of Judaism is my enemy.  There are 300 million goyim sleeper cells in the US alone ready to expel the Jew just like they've been expelled from nations 300+ times before.  It's inevitable they are given the boot.

Metals don't really remove middle men, we end up using paper representations of gold instead of gold.

You consider metals being represented by paper a normality, I consider it just a transitory scam.  Through history, paper money has ALWAYS been a derivative of metals, not vice versa.  It's just a simple, temporary scam that will implode like it always does.

People will always use banks no matter what because they want to outsource security and responsibility to someone else, but there's absolutely nothing stopping the form of money used solely being gold, silver, and copper instead of paper.  You can easily have enough granularity with those three metals.  It just means the market caps of silver and copper would be much higher than they are now in comparison to gold.  Even if silver is $500 an ounce, a 1/10th ounce silver coin is only $50, then you can have 1 oz copper coins, 1/10th an oz, or even 1/20th of an ounce copper coins below that if you really want to.

The banks are also always going to attempt to run fractional reserve no matter what widget you use whether it's metals or digital shitcoins until you form a physical lynch mob and hang them, so fractional reserve is not even a valid topic to discuss concerning type of monetary unit.
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^This brief time span in history will be known as the period where women erroneously thought they were more intelligent and more important than men simply because they spent orders of magnitude more time and money on physical appearance, clothes, and putting on makeup.  Everything is presentation and no substance.

You're just a little grumpy because you'll never have kids. aren't you?

Kids doesn’t come from wrestling the snake...............
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^This brief time span in history will be known as the period where women erroneously thought they were more intelligent and more important than men simply because they spent orders of magnitude more time and money on physical appearance, clothes, and putting on makeup.  Everything is presentation and no substance.

You're just a little grumpy because you'll never have kids. aren't you?

It's pretty abnormal to want to have kids in an overcrowded/overpopulated environment, combined with the fact knowing the world is on the eve of financial apocalypse where you yourself might even have a low chance of survival. The only type of people who are having kids right now are bottom of the barrel R-selection group brown people or just dumbasses and fools in general.  

Women generally fall under the category of fool and will want to have kids no matter what, though.  They will attempt to trick you into this act even if it's a dumb idea.  I guess stupid women are required for the species to exist, otherwise everyone would all stop having kids at the same time and go extinct.
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^This brief time span in history will be known as the period where women erroneously thought they were more intelligent and more important than men simply because they spent orders of magnitude more time and money on physical appearance, clothes, and putting on makeup.  Everything is presentation and no substance.

You're just a little grumpy because you'll never have kids. aren't you?

It's pretty abnormal to want to have kids in an overcrowded/overpopulated environment, combined with the fact knowing the world is on the eve of financial apocalypse where you yourself might even have a low chance of survival. The only type of people who are having kids right now are bottom of the barrel R-selection group brown people or just dumbasses and fools in general.  Women generally fall under the category of fool and will want to have kids no matter what, though.  They will attempt to trick you into this act even if it's a dumb idea.
Waiting for your answer to my post.
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Waiting for your answer to my post.

The answer to your post is, there's lots of people who make believe they're rich when they really aren't because they have no way to control or defend their assets against the other 99.9%.  Hell, much of their assets rely on the 99.9% being able to purchase their goods but they can't.  It's just a system of phantom wealth everywhere.  

In the end, the only wealth you have will be what you can hold in your hand and defend with a Natzee Luger, or what the consensus of your neighbors agree is yours.  There will obviously be massive redistribution and pillaging whether people want to believe so or not, or pretend they can avoid it.  No, non-fungible shitcoins are not in any way a benefit over metals in this, especially when your balance and account history is sitting right out in the open for the entire world to view it.  

The so called "elite" put their money in private trusts to try and avoid things like this, confiscations, and turn their account balance and transactions opaque.  A non-fungible shitcoin is a step downwards in that regard.  If the world went Venezuela or simply Joseph Tantor style reduction in complexity and is mostly based around barter or whatever, digital shitcoins are not going to be of any value.  It will be physical metals ruling with an iron fist, so there is no lame shitcoin pumper talking points like "but muh shitcoins are easier to hide!".  
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Waiting for your answer to my post.

The answer to your post is, there's lots of people who make believe they're rich when they really aren't because they have no way to control or defend their assets against the other 99.9%.  Hell, much of their assets rely on the 99.9% being able to purchase their goods but they can't.  It's just a system of phantom wealth everywhere.  

In the end, the only wealth you have will be what you can hold in your hand and defend with a Natzee Luger, or what the consensus of your neighbors agree is yours.  There will obviously be massive redistribution and pillaging whether people want to believe so or not, or pretend they can avoid it.  No, non-fungible shitcoins are not in any way a benefit over metals in this, especially when your balance and account history is sitting right out in the open for the entire world to view it.  

The so called "elite" put their money in private trusts to try and avoid things like this, confiscations, and turn their account balance and transactions opaque.  A non-fungible shitcoin is a step downwards in that regard.  If the world went Venezuela or simply Joseph Tantor style reduction in complexity and is mostly based around barter or whatever, digital shitcoins are not going to be of any value.  It will be physical metals ruling with an iron fist, so there is no lame shitcoin pumper talking points like "but muh shitcoins are easier to hide!".

You continue talking about gold vs. shitcoins when we're already past this topic.
I agree that in the end, your wealth is what you can hold and own physically. I doubt that in a world where this fact is true gold will be the king.
I'd rather own all the food that people need to exist and distribute it the way I want over owning a shiny piece of metal which is used 50% of the time for shiny pieces of shit that the brainless (in your opinion) women wear (https://www.statista.com/statistics/299609/gold-demand-by-industry-sector-share/)

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^This brief time span in history will be known as the period where women erroneously thought they were more intelligent and more important than men simply because they spent orders of magnitude more time and money on physical appearance, clothes, and putting on makeup.  Everything is presentation and no substance.

You're just a little grumpy because you'll never have kids. aren't you?

Kids doesn’t come from wrestling the snake...............

'Snake' might be being somewhat overly generous, tho.
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Waiting for your answer to my post.

The answer to your post is, there's lots of people who make believe they're rich when they really aren't because they have no way to control or defend their assets against the other 99.9%.  Hell, much of their assets rely on the 99.9% being able to purchase their goods but they can't.  It's just a system of phantom wealth everywhere.  

In the end, the only wealth you have will be what you can hold in your hand and defend with a Natzee Luger, or what the consensus of your neighbors agree is yours.  There will obviously be massive redistribution and pillaging whether people want to believe so or not, or pretend they can avoid it.  No, non-fungible shitcoins are not in any way a benefit over metals in this, especially when your balance and account history is sitting right out in the open for the entire world to view it.  

The so called "elite" put their money in private trusts to try and avoid things like this, confiscations, and turn their account balance and transactions opaque.  A non-fungible shitcoin is a step downwards in that regard.  If the world went Venezuela or simply Joseph Tantor style reduction in complexity and is mostly based around barter or whatever, digital shitcoins are not going to be of any value.  It will be physical metals ruling with an iron fist, so there is no lame shitcoin pumper talking points like "but muh shitcoins are easier to hide!".

You continue talking about gold vs. shitcoins when we're already past this topic.
I agree that in the end, your wealth is what you can hold and own physically. I doubt that in the world where this fact is true gold will be the king.
I'd rather own all the food that people need to exist and distribute it the way I want over owning a shiny piece of metal which is used 50% of the time for shiny pieces of shit that the brainless (in your opinion) women wear (https://www.statista.com/statistics/299609/gold-demand-by-industry-sector-share/)

You kinda miss the point that the odds of retaining your wealth while it's stored in metals is higher than that of owning a chain of grocery stores or food supply chain.  Without highly effective martial law on every street corner, your grocery store and everything else will probably just be an empty building, so how is that a great investment?  You might even lose possession of the empty building too.  Your entire train of thought requires faith in and effectiveness of martial law.
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Too bad I can't unsee it dammit...  Grin
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what is this "brake pedal" you speak of?


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February 09, 2019, 11:11:17 PM
Last edit: February 09, 2019, 11:23:27 PM by vapourminer
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you DO know what thread youre in right?



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