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June 07, 2019, 10:11:32 AM

What is general feeling about facebooks launching of their own crypto?
Good or bad for BTC.
My own initial thoughts are that it is good as it can directly replace Tether as an onramp to BTC
On the downside though, I think it might lead to some thinking why do I need BTC when I can use the facebook "trusted" coin

https://techcrunch.com/2019/06/06/facebook-libra-launch/?guccounter=1&guce_referrer_us=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cud2lyZWQuY28udWsvYXJ0aWNsZS93aXJlZC1hd2FrZS0wNzA2MTk&guce_referrer_cs=n2i7cvVQ2FVl-mxbjXYdsg
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June 07, 2019, 10:35:15 AM

Oh yeah sorry I had to ban you from facebook coin because reasons

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June 07, 2019, 10:45:07 AM

On the downside though, I think it might lead to some thinking why do I need BTC when I can use the facebook "trusted" coin


Only boomers are using facebook these days, and only they will have this kind of thought.

I believe it would be bad, because it will replace tether as a stable coin. I would prefer trueUSD to replace tether, but if its to change tether for facebook coin, then its better to continue using tether, as it provides some entertainment through the irrational tether FUD.
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June 07, 2019, 10:50:44 AM


Bitcoin is the least risky investment in a high risk investment category. Its health does not depend on altcoins, but rather the health of altcoins depend on it.

This is not true and is a widely held myth amongst so called "maximalists" who tend to view the market through the arbitrary lens of a single asset - commonly known as the "monopolist" view.

Diversity in the asset class has pulled in demand out of proportion to the growth in supply or the effect of internal competition. That's not uncommon in economies.

I once lived in a street which had 1 coffee shop. The price of a cup of coffee was about the average for a residential area. Later another one appeared, then a restaurant. Over the years (about 2 decades) the number of coffee shops/bars increased to around 20-30. The price of a cup of coffee is now about 50% above that in other areas. A glass of wine is about 2-3 times the price.

The influence of "competition" worked in reverse because the aggregate impact it had on "selling the street" as an attractive area to visit far outweighed the adverse effect of internal competition amongst commercial outlets trading at that site.

That's what's happening with the crypto-asset market and is also why bitcoin depends on altcoins as much as they depend on it. Without technologically superior hedges, supporting trading pairs, diversified access to the crypto-asset markets, financial specialisation and derivative platforms, bitcoin itself would never have seen the growth it has.


In your example the street became higher value to condumers because of the more larger and more diverse offerings. That in turn allowed prices to be raised.

In crypto the vast majority of the altcoins are utter scams and most of the people they attrackt are scumbags. When people talk negatively about crypto its generally to do with some altcoin. They are crapping up the neighbourhood.

The absolute opposite of the example of the coffe shop and your street.
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June 07, 2019, 10:59:35 AM

Hi guys, hows it hangin'?

Is CSW getting messages deleted from the forum? I got PM´s that many of my posts where I used his name were deleted, any particular reason?

No, my BSV scam accusation thread where I've called him a fraud several times is going strong, haven't had any comments deleted from it thus far.

I've found that there's usually a logical, non-conspiratorial reason why my comments get deleted. Double-posting is a big no-no (outside of the WO thread), going off-topic is the #2 reason. Can you post us an example of a comment that was deleted and the thread that it was in?

It was a thread about who Satoshi really is, just checked again, had just a glimpse yday.

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What about this theory:

https://news.postimees.ee/4365547/hunt-for-the-world-s-most-wanted-man-reaches-estonia

Ever heard of it?

thank you! interesting! his PhD thesis is about Time-Stamping Systems which also was the basis of Satoshi's work.

but again. if a conman is constantly lying about the origin of your work would you then keep silent and not telling the truth to the public at least incognito if you are still alive?

If someone wanted truly not to be known, I doubt that any conman would get him to reveal himself.

I'm from Estonia and it's a really small country, would be a bang if bitcoin was created here, though I doubt it. We do have lots of smart(ass) people around Smiley Skype came from Estonia too, yeehaw Cheesy

And Kazaa and some other platforms from late 90's, early 2000's, which I think opened way for torrents? Not sure about the last part though.
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What about this theory:

https://news.postimees.ee/4365547/hunt-for-the-world-s-most-wanted-man-reaches-estonia

Ever heard of it?

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what do you mean?

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Kleiman sent him bitcoin using the original private key, allowing Wright to be able to showcase the earliest known bitcoin transaction (apart from the original). Wright then posted under the pseudonym Satoshi Nakamoto.

I guess this means the not public claim as Faketoshi convinced Gavin Andresen and others that he is Satoshi himself.

https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/81115/if-someone-wanted-to-pretend-to-be-satoshi-by-posting-a-fake-signature-to-defrau

https://youtu.be/tEKw-6NEysA?t=12

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I don't want money, I don't want fame, I don't want adoration, I just want to be left alone.

Look at what he's doing now, if he wanted to be left alone he wouldn't do this whole BCH(XXXXXXX) shitshow.

So there's no real evidence. I just don't believe that he could come up with something like this, his persona is opposite of Satoshi.
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do you know that the bottom right now?  Wink



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June 07, 2019, 11:23:28 AM


When people talk negatively about crypto its generally to do with some altcoin.

LoL ! I suggest you visit Nouriel's Twitter thread to cure yourself of this delusion  Wink
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When people talk negatively about crypto its generally to do with some altcoin.

LoL ! I suggest you visit Nouriel's Twitter thread to cure yourself of this delusion  Wink

Hard money is backed by gold.
Bitcoin is hard money backed by mathematics.
Fiat money is backed by force.
Fiat money is altcoins.
Fiat money is scam.
Fiat money is shitcoin.

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Hard money is backed by gold.
Bitcoin is hard money backed by mathematics.
Fiat money is backed by force.
Fiat money is altcoins.
Fiat money is scam.
Fiat money is shitcoin.

Indeed. The main argument against "alt" coins is tribal, not analytical as is well demonstrated here  Cheesy
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June 07, 2019, 11:35:05 AM

It was a thread about who Satoshi really is, just checked again, had just a glimpse yday.

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What about this theory:

https://news.postimees.ee/4365547/hunt-for-the-world-s-most-wanted-man-reaches-estonia

Ever heard of it?

thank you! interesting! his PhD thesis is about Time-Stamping Systems which also was the basis of Satoshi's work.

but again. if a conman is constantly lying about the origin of your work would you then keep silent and not telling the truth to the public at least incognito if you are still alive?

If someone wanted truly not to be known, I doubt that any conman would get him to reveal himself.

I'm from Estonia and it's a really small country, would be a bang if bitcoin was created here, though I doubt it. We do have lots of smart(ass) people around Smiley Skype came from Estonia too, yeehaw Cheesy

And Kazaa and some other platforms from late 90's, early 2000's, which I think opened way for torrents? Not sure about the last part though.
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Kleiman sent him bitcoin using the original private key, allowing Wright to be able to showcase the earliest known bitcoin transaction (apart from the original). Wright then posted under the pseudonym Satoshi Nakamoto.

I guess this means the not public claim as Faketoshi convinced Gavin Andresen and others that he is Satoshi himself.

https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/81115/if-someone-wanted-to-pretend-to-be-satoshi-by-posting-a-fake-signature-to-defrau

https://youtu.be/tEKw-6NEysA?t=12

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I don't want money, I don't want fame, I don't want adoration, I just want to be left alone.

Look at what he's doing now, if he wanted to be left alone he wouldn't do this whole BCH(XXXXXXX) shitshow.

So there's no real evidence. I just don't believe that he could come up with something like this, his persona is opposite of Satoshi.
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Is there a copy of the post which CSW supposedly wrote?

I don't know. That's really weird. I suppose I would need more context on what the thread was about, but it would seem there is actually a pro-CSW moderator out there. Given the amount of absolute shitposting that goes on here on a minute-by-minute basis, I'm rather surprised these posts of yours got singled out for deletion. They seem to be contributing to an ongoing discussion and not just shitposts-in-the-wind.

Edit: OH! It was a self-moderated thread. For one reason or another Gyrsur deleted all the posts in his thread, even his OP:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5002972

You'll have to ask him what his reasoning was.
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I like Dakt Punk very much (one of the very few French products I like)


Better than Daft Punk and yet French (NSFW):

https://youtu.be/TZmaYuOGO6Q?t=57

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I tought you were proposing this:

(In a way) Better than Daft Punk and yet French (NSFW):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySlSspLjwnM
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June 07, 2019, 11:48:14 AM

Hard money is backed by gold.
Bitcoin is hard money backed by mathematics.
Fiat money is backed by force.
Fiat money is altcoins.
Fiat money is scam.
Fiat money is shitcoin.

Indeed. The main argument against "alt" coins is tribal, not analytical as is well demonstrated here  Cheesy


Actually this reasoning applies to everything.
Every money but Bitcoin is a shitcoin.
Radical.
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June 07, 2019, 12:03:46 PM

Shit its 4% just having it on Freebitco.in

BlockFi is still offering 6% I believe.
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June 07, 2019, 12:35:24 PM

For 6% ... well, that's better than a lot of CDs or GICs.
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What did I miss? Looks like I have 600+ pages to read. brb

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June 07, 2019, 12:49:25 PM

C´mon Honey Badger, dont get scared of 8k!

You can pass it next time!

Go BTC, go!!
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Better say things that must be combined

WO-members --- HATs

WO-members --- BTC

BTC ---- Weekendpump
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Rick woke me up this morning before he took off to work, and mentioned something about getting sushi tonight if he were to arrive home earlier than usual this evening.

First words out of my mouth this morning, I swear to Jah, "Sushi tonight ? What day is it ?!"

Rick couldn't stop laughing at how I've utterly embraced retired life, and just DGAF about the daily grind any more, while muttering he can't wait to retire himself.

I see corn had a nice growth-spurt overnight. Verr nice.

Feeling a bit bored with life, and decided that I'm having a lot of fun buying up chunks of dip. Want at least 1 more full dip-acquired BTC, for reasons mostly dealing with satisfying my degenerate gambling predilections. 37% of the way there already.

HODL strong, brothers.
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Hard money is backed by gold.
Bitcoin is hard money backed by mathematics.
Fiat money is backed by force.
Fiat money is altcoins.
Fiat money is scam.
Fiat money is shitcoin.



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Your news is mind-numbing, not enlightening.
Your job is soul-sucking, not fulfilling.
Your money is value-bleeding, not value-storing.

Start by taking the power of money away from the elites.

Start with Bitcoin.

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