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It doesn’t work like that.

GA doesn’t have its own seed.  

Each site gives you a site specific seed.  You write the seed down somewhere safe.


If you lose the device, you re-enter the seed for that specific site into your new device.

The attack vector is the sites’ individual processes for manually turning off GA for the inevitable dumbasses that lose their seed.  
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July 17, 2019, 07:38:18 PM

Observing 9977

But can anyone guess what i’m gonna observe later this evening  Roll Eyes

A glass of gin, and an oyster
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July 17, 2019, 07:41:22 PM

Observing 9977

But can anyone guess what i’m gonna observe later this evening  Roll Eyes

A glass of gin, and an oyster

mic will be observing his teams posting for the day. Isn’t that right, mic?

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July 17, 2019, 07:41:53 PM

Observing 9977

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A glass of gin, and an oyster

Enough gin makes any oyster open  Wink
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July 17, 2019, 07:48:21 PM
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Observing 9977

But can anyone guess what i’m gonna observe later this evening  Roll Eyes

Observing CCMF@9977



I'm getting better and better at this game.
(On meme mode, after a few good posts today, don't blame me)


You Will understand the game when you’re on meme mode and make a good post after, thats when we don’t blame you.... Smiley
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July 17, 2019, 07:49:39 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-ZTkCNW0w8

More financial services committee fun. It's been a good watch so far. It's obviously Libra focused but plenty of sense being spoken about 'actual' cryptocurrency too.

We got a congressman questioning the difference between Bitcoin and shitcoins.
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That is pretty fucking crazy to hunt bears with a spear and to be able to be successful.

Of course, it would not be a preferred outcome to engage in a battle with a bear and merely injure the bear without actually killing it, yet I suppose in some of the cases, that kind of outcome would inevitably happen.  Overall, it seems to be a pretty open kind of way to try to accomplish the killing of a bear, and it appears that in the USA spear hunting of bears is only allowed in 4 states.

I'm not really against it, and surely those hunters attempting to hunt bear with a spear without decent talents and/or strength might be weeded out in their attempt to employ such practices, too.   Wink
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July 17, 2019, 07:53:32 PM

Observing 9977

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A glass of gin, and an oyster

Enough gin makes any oyster open  Wink

champagne works on 13 years old female too... ask a(ny) jew... he knows... bcz he did.

Uhhhhh something in me thinks this is a racist statement  Huh Smiley
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July 17, 2019, 07:53:57 PM

Poor bear.  He just wanted some hunny. 
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That is pretty fucking crazy to hunt bears with a spear and to be able to be successful.

Of course, it would not be a preferred outcome to engage in a battle with a bear and merely injure the bear without actually killing it, yet I suppose in some of the cases, that kind of outcome would inevitably happen.  Overall, it seems to be a pretty open kind of way to try to accomplish the killing of a bear, and it appears that in the USA spear hunting of bears is only allowed in 4 states.

I'm not really against it, and surely those hunters attempting to hunt bear with a spear without decent talents and/or strength might be weeded out in their attempt to employ such practices, too.   Wink

If a bear comes close it will stand on it's rear legs and try to grab you.
Wedge your spear between the ground and the bears chest or stomach at an angle.
When the bear comes down then he will do a hara-kiri and you win.

I personally prefer the Magnum Wildey method  Cool

P.S. If you kill something you must eat it....
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July 17, 2019, 07:59:58 PM

It doesn’t work like that.

GA doesn’t have its own seed.  

Each site gives you a site specific seed.  You write the seed down somewhere safe.


If you lose the device, you re-enter the seed for that specific site into your new device.

The attack vector is the sites’ individual processes for manually turning off GA for the inevitable dumbasses that lose their seed.  

I am sorry to be such a dumbass, but let's attempt to merely stick with the case of re-establishing a new device for google authenticator running.  That is merely getting google to recognize the new device that they are going to send the GA keys for the secondary sites.

So, if I still have the old device, that situation is easy because i can get the GA keys off of the old device when I am registering the new device.  Once I register the new device, then GA only sends GA codes to the new device.  It no longer sends codes to the old device.

Now if I lose my old device or it gets stolen or damaged or lost in a boating accident, or whatever causes me an inability to access my old device, then I thought that those 10 codes that google gives you at the time of creating your GA account were used for those kinds of situations in which you no longer have access to your old device.  If I am wrong, then I am confused about the whole situation, and it would be better to straighten this matter out before I lose or break my device that has my GA account assigned to it, no?
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July 17, 2019, 08:00:39 PM

Observing 9977

But can anyone guess what i’m gonna observe later this evening  Roll Eyes

A glass of gin, and an oyster

Enough gin makes any oyster open  Wink

champagne works on 13 years old female too... ask a(ny) jew... he knows... bcz he did.

What's wrong with Buttunlocker?  Grin  Account hacked or another roach-wannabe?  Grin
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July 17, 2019, 08:05:54 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-ZTkCNW0w8

More financial services committee fun. It's been a good watch so far. It's obviously Libra focused but plenty of sense being spoken about 'actual' cryptocurrency too.

We got a congressman questioning the difference between Bitcoin and shitcoins.

Who would have ever thunk, just a year ago or less that regular normies are going to start to get some real ideas about how bitcoin is different from the 2,000 plus shit coins and ICO snake oil salesman bullshit, including all shit coins, libra, ether, the bcashes, ripple or whatever other phoney baloneys are out their in btc wannabe status or sometimes like eth saying that they offer something different from btc, which ends up rising to the level of crap at best and scam in a worse case scenario.
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July 17, 2019, 08:06:53 PM
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It doesn’t work like that.

GA doesn’t have its own seed.  

Each site gives you a site specific seed.  You write the seed down somewhere safe.


If you lose the device, you re-enter the seed for that specific site into your new device.

The attack vector is the sites’ individual processes for manually turning off GA for the inevitable dumbasses that lose their seed.  

As far as i have read and understood the docs on GA now, it uses its own "key" for authentication against the google account used on the phone.
That is what the set of backup keys is for. You have 2FA enabled on your G account and lose your phone. Transfer procedure is quite similar to 3rd party GA2FA, just disable and re-enable after swapping phones and restore of GA.
3rd party (secondary) accounts must be restored via their seed providers (exchange) security key or disabled/re-enabled as usual, where the mentioned attack vector comes into play.
No convient way to restore all at once, if i didn't miss anything. Workaround would be running Android as root and backup the whole GA app via 3rdparty software. Least attractive to me. So always have your security keys written down a multiple times, and store them securely.
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July 17, 2019, 08:08:06 PM

Observing 9977

But can anyone guess what i’m gonna observe later this evening  Roll Eyes

A glass of gin, and an oyster

mic will be observing his teams posting for the day. Isn’t that right, mic?

Wink

Kidding.

I’ll be observing the Lion King in a few minutes 🤣
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July 17, 2019, 08:08:12 PM

This is our house now Ke-mo sah-bee



That is pretty fucking crazy to hunt bears with a spear and to be able to be successful.

Of course, it would not be a preferred outcome to engage in a battle with a bear and merely injure the bear without actually killing it, yet I suppose in some of the cases, that kind of outcome would inevitably happen.  Overall, it seems to be a pretty open kind of way to try to accomplish the killing of a bear, and it appears that in the USA spear hunting of bears is only allowed in 4 states.

I'm not really against it, and surely those hunters attempting to hunt bear with a spear without decent talents and/or strength might be weeded out in their attempt to employ such practices, too.   Wink

If a bear comes close it will stand on it's rear legs and try to grab you.
Wedge your spear between the ground and the bears chest or stomach at an angle.
When the bear comes down then he will do a hara-kiri and you win.

I personally prefer the Magnum Wildey method  Cool

P.S. If you kill something you must eat it....

You seem to be suggesting that the process of killing a bear with a spear is pretty straight forward, and even a caveman could do it?

 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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July 17, 2019, 08:10:49 PM

Observing 9977

But can anyone guess what i’m gonna observe later this evening  Roll Eyes

A glass of gin, and an oyster

Enough gin makes any oyster open  Wink

champagne works on 13 years old female too... ask a(ny) jew... he knows... bcz he did.

What's wrong with Buttunlocker?  Grin  Account hacked or another roach-wannabe?  Grin

I don’t know, what I do know is that he isn’t a perfect WO group material imo Roll Eyes
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July 17, 2019, 08:12:53 PM
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Who would have ever thunk, just a year ago or less that regular normies are going to start to get some real ideas about how bitcoin is different from the 2,000 plus shit coins and ICO snake oil salesman bullshit, including all shit coins, libra, ether, the bcashes, ripple or whatever other phoney baloneys are out their in btc wannabe status or sometimes like eth saying that they offer something different from btc, which ends up rising to the level of crap at best and scam in a worse case scenario.

I think in retrospect this Libra proposal is going to be looked back on as the thing that pushed Bitcoin over a particular hump. It has forced an awful lot of influential people to pause and consider what crypto actually is when they hadn't bothered before.

Throughout these hearings there's been a definite paucity of disdain for BTC.

Least expected bit - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vf1dym16poc
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July 17, 2019, 08:13:18 PM

It doesn’t work like that.

GA doesn’t have its own seed.  

Each site gives you a site specific seed.  You write the seed down somewhere safe.


If you lose the device, you re-enter the seed for that specific site into your new device.

The attack vector is the sites’ individual processes for manually turning off GA for the inevitable dumbasses that lose their seed.  

I am sorry to be such a dumbass, but let's attempt to merely stick with the case of re-establishing a new device for google authenticator running.  That is merely getting google to recognize the new device that they are going to send the GA keys for the secondary sites.

So, if I still have the old device, that situation is easy because i can get the GA keys off of the old device when I am registering the new device.  Once I register the new device, then GA only sends GA codes to the new device.  It no longer sends codes to the old device.

Now if I lose my old device or it gets stolen or damaged or lost in a boating accident, or whatever causes me an inability to access my old device, then I thought that those 10 codes that google gives you at the time of creating your GA account were used for those kinds of situations in which you no longer have access to your old device.  If I am wrong, then I am confused about the whole situation, and it would be better to straighten this matter out before I lose or break my device that has my GA account assigned to it, no?




It doesn’t work like that.

GA doesn’t have its own seed.  

Each site gives you a site specific seed.  You write the seed down somewhere safe.


If you lose the device, you re-enter the seed for that specific site into your new device.

The attack vector is the sites’ individual processes for manually turning off GA for the inevitable dumbasses that lose their seed.  

As far as i have read and understood the docs on GA now, it uses its own "key" for authentication against the google account used on the phone.
That is what the set of backup keys is for. You have 2FA enabled on your G account and lose your phone. Transfer procedure is quite similar to 3rd party GA2FA, just disable and re-enable after swapping phones and restore of GA.
3rd party (secondary) accounts must be restored via their seed providers (exchange) security key or disabled/re-enabled as usual, where the mentioned attack vector comes into play.
No convient way to restore all at once, if i didn't miss anything. Workaround would be running Android as root and backup the whole GA app via 3rdparty software. Least attractive to me. So always have your security keys written down a multiple times, and store them securely.

From my reading, makrospex, you seem to be saying a very similar thing that I had said in my response to hairybairy, above, but more eloquently.  

In other words, those 10 different seed words are used to reactivate google account (on 10 different occasions) in the event that you lose your device and you do not have access to your access codes that are spat out on your device every minute or so on GA.
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Hello..

I have been searching this forum for a while now so how come this is the biggest thread in the whole forum? you are constantly posting speculations on the Bitcoin price?
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