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[realr0ach]

Poland has begun to address the Jewish problem.  Maybe in their next lives they'll figure out they're not allowed to tell white people what to do or act as eternal parasites on them:

https://dailystormer.name/poland-massive-annual-nationalist-march-is-beautiful/

[jbreher]

I haven't kept up much on chair technology, but it's very difficult finding a decent chair.

I present to you the eChair: http://carltatzdesign.com/press-releases/pr-1115-carl-tatz-has-your-back.html

Is it the best chair available? I dunno. But after living with it for a while, it is certainly better for me than (e.g.) an Aeron.

[jbreher]

OK, back to this.

Okay. Let's examine this together, shall we? Here's your original post:

Apparently the maximum amount he could have possibly "lost" was less than 0.1 BTC (if he wasn't making up everything):

https://twitter.com/rusty_twit/status/1187995784957947904?s=20
https://twitter.com/rusty_twit/status/1189678498337574912
https://bitcoinist.com/4-bitcoin-loss-on-lightning-network-is-fud-says-community/

https://twitter.com/rusty_twit/status/1187995784957947904?s=20 ?
Nope, no evidence in there. Discussion and allegation, no evidence.

The only reason you are correct here is because he was analyzing the wrong set of blocks, which you didn't know until right now. The fuckup happened in a block previous to 600,000 -- read below.

IOW, NOT evidence.

https://twitter.com/rusty_twit/status/1189678498337574912 ?
Maybe. Not dispositive, however. The total of penalty txs over the probable time interval of the event show less than 1BTC lost through penalty txs. But tell me - why is it assumed that there were penalty claims?

It is glaringly a dispositive. During the previous 10,000 block period there were exactly 6 penalty transactions totaling 0.09746883 BTC.

Haha. Glaringly obvious indeed. Even when spoon-fed, you entirely miss the implication of my clearly-stated musing (see italic above).

[Blah blah blah (paraphrased) - irrelevant shit not in dispute. - ed]

If his counterparties were on the beneficial side of a stale closing tx, what is their incentive to issue a penalty? They stand to win more through just letting the mistaken stale tx broadcasts lie as is. Seems we need to at least consider that possibility before closing the case. As at least one scenario.

So far none of the 400 nodes connected to him reported receiving any funds.

Hmm. None of the 400 unjustly-enriched parties reported unjust enrichment. Whodathunkit?

What is more likely is he has the funds, can't access them, and they are far fewer than 4 BTC in total.

Sez you. Sure, it's a plausible argument. But it does not invalidate the alternative scenario which I present. Which, of course, is why I ask to see the evidence. Again, everything you present falls far short of being dispositive.

https://bitcoinist.com/4-bitcoin-loss-on-lightning-network-is-fud-says-community/ ?
Oh yes - "says community". Hearsay is not evidence.

There are LN experts working pretty hard to help this guy recover his funds.

What ever does that have to do with the assertion that your last link is mere hearsay? Do you not understand the word itself?

It seems like this guy did everything wrong on purpose. Its hard to believe someone would crash through several safeguards so recklessly if he cared at all about his BTC. My bet is when his funds are restored it will surface that the total "lost" was far less than 4 BTC.

Perhaps.

More germane, you have moved the goalposts from 'he made the whole thing up, case closed' to 'I kinda think sorta he might have exaggerated his losses'. Let us recall that this opened with an assertion made to the effect that it was all a lie, followed by me merely asking for evidence, for which you attacked me with the strawman of denial.
I don't know if you're being dishonest, or you are merely incapable of logic.

[jbreher]

That's new and sounds promising..

How Bitcoin’s Lightning Can Be Used for Private Messaging

It's almost as if people don't realize that Bitcoin has been capable of private messaging since genesis.

[jojo69]

Old People Can Start Infusing Children's Blood Again

Nocoiner blood is back on the menu, boys.

MMMMmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

essence of gelfling

[Last of the V8s]

oo gay
now this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzfZ9V9Hb30 Lightning Junkies Episode LNJ011 - Shinobi Talking about Why Lightning Sucks
https://youtu.be/grKriJ0hpnQ Block Digest Special Edition - Vizique (Crypto Collectibles Enthusiast)

[jbreher]

BAKKT is a necessity for the criminal syndicate of big money to control the price of bitcoin... They think they can use rehypothecated bitcoin collateral like they do with physical gold. They can't!

Well, they can't. Unless society as a whole lets them. Which is why education is so important.

Well, not BAKKT specifically, as it is physically-settled. At least as long as the customers don't simply roll their take. But most other 'tools' at of the pinstriped bandits do serve this 'need'.

Do you think the average man-on-the-street has internalized 'not your keys, not your bitcoin'? Hell, our little insular bitcoin community doesn't even practice that, at least not enough to deter partial reserve bitcoin. Tether, anyone?

[jbreher]

To be completely transparent, I'm liquidating however many BTC will be needed for me to buy a nicely specced-out Mac Pro when the new ones are released (any day now)

I'll be waiting until my SW runs on Catalina.

[hv_]

That's new and sounds promising..

How Bitcoin’s Lightning Can Be Used for Private Messaging

It's almost as if people don't realize that Bitcoin has been capable of private messaging since genesis.

So many things haven t been understood and / or crippled to death or anonymity.

Sigh

Now invent new wheels again?

[jbreher]

I mean how can BSV be worth $2.5 billion with around 25 users globally and zero hash rate security.

How? Why? Because your assumptions are ludicrously off the mark.

[jbreher]

Seems like
@Bakkt
 is on pace to break $20m in daily volume soon as they consistently notch above $10m now.

H/t:
@BakktBot



https://twitter.com/trajanmex/status/1193942948867522560?s=20

It's not too hard to figure out. BAKKT customers need not be Bitcoiners. Look at the last day. You could sell a future contract for 9500 or so, by the chart. Well, you could buy BTC at that day's price (as low as 8775), and sell a contract, your assets and liabilities balance, you pocket money. A fair amount. With the only downside being the counterparty risk of the parent company of the mudderfukkin' New York Stock Exchange.

It's a pretty simple calculus. The only miracle is that the volume isn't higher.

[jbreher]

I remember how people were making fun of ltc as 5$ coin.

Yeah, I remember when it was a 3 bucks forever and dropped to like a buck and a half and chinese were sucking it all up and I was like "theres to many of those shitcoins to grab any" So I didn't grab any.
Man was i brilliant at that time.

Give it time to play out.

[jbreher]

Life's too short to watch this, just want to know one thing. Who on earth is Mr X?

Speed Racer's mentor.
















On his day off, of course.

[fillippone]

It's not too hard to figure out. BAKKT customers need not be Bitcoiners. Look at the last day. You could sell a future contract for 9500 or so, by the chart. Well, you could buy BTC at that day's price (as low as 8775), and sell a contract, your assets and liabilities balance, you pocket money. A fair amount. With the only downside being the counterparty risk of the parent company mudderfukkin'  New York Stock Exchange.

It's a pretty simple calculus. The only miracle is that the volume isn't higher.

Nothing magical,
It’s called cash and carry.
It’s explained here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5188060.msg53009523#msg53009523
You can lock in more if you sell back months future.

[Raja_MBZ]

The creator of C++ has expressed disappointment in the language’s use in BTC mining

it uses as much energy as Switzerland and mostly serves criminals

https://cointelegraph.com/news/c-creator-laments-c-use-in-bitcoin-mining-operation

*searches his age*

Born: December 30, 1950 (age 68 years), Aarhus, Denmark



We've got the same birth-day though...

[jbreher]

The creator of C++ has expressed disappointment in the language’s use in BTC mining

Hmm. That's a turnaround.

Bjarne was a participant in the early meetings of ISO TC 307.

[P_Shep]

The creator of C++ has expressed disappointment in the language’s use in BTC mining

it uses as much energy as Switzerland and mostly serves criminals

https://cointelegraph.com/news/c-creator-laments-c-use-in-bitcoin-mining-operation

*searches his age*

Born: December 30, 1950 (age 68 years), Aarhus, Denmark



We've got the same birth-day though...

OK, Boomer.

[Last of the V8s]

https://www.eff.org/press/releases/federal-court-rules-suspicionless-searches-travelers-phones-and-laptops

Federal Court Rules Suspicionless Searches of Travelers’ Phones and Laptops Unconstitutional
Government Must Have Reasonable Suspicion of Digital Contraband Before Searching People’s Electronic Devices at the U.S. Border

huh
edit:
'you were in the area'
'you are travelling'
'you have a "device"'
therefore suspicion, but still?

edit

As faulty as "democracy" might be, this is one of the examples of when it works.

More like a nod to 'rule of law' for a change.

[makrospex]

https://www.eff.org/press/releases/federal-court-rules-suspicionless-searches-travelers-phones-and-laptops

Federal Court Rules Suspicionless Searches of Travelers’ Phones and Laptops Unconstitutional
Government Must Have Reasonable Suspicion of Digital Contraband Before Searching People’s Electronic Devices at the U.S. Border

huh

As faulty as "democracy" might be, this is one of the examples of when it works.
Observing $8.773, while trying to backread dozens of WO pages.

[fillippone]

^^^^
You might find some help here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg53055043#msg53055043