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December 02, 2019, 01:56:19 PM

HM, FFS I thought we were past the worst. 5-6k a possibility again, damn it.

Damn it! But it does not matter!
When I hear BTC going down it actually goes up.

Similar as me, when i wish BTC would go up, it actually goes down Wink
So i patiently wait for $5.xxx areas until mid Q1/2020.
Be prepared for the price to explode just days before i decide to buy  Grin
Honestly, why do we care about staying in regions of affordable prices for longer periods of time?
It's about the best we could hope for. Remember: BTC is not following a get-rich-quick agenda, but a don't-get-poor-slowly (neither fast, of course) scheme.
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Honestly, why do we care about staying in regions of affordable prices for longer periods of time?
I do not think most of us actually care much about this volatile moves. It's the excitement we feel in our adrenaline.
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Well, wasps can bite and bees can sting, can't they? Enough reason to not welcome them to my garden I think. To be honest I have never been sting by a bee but.... I hate when one disturbs my peace of mind while I am sunbathing because I think/fear it could sting me. I don't even like flies nor mosquitoes even if those won't bite me.


Wasps are dangerous and need to die by fire, but bees don't want to sting you as it is their last defense and then they die from using the stinger. Don't bother them and you can walk right through them. I had one queen Bee sting me when i was young but I sat on it! Damn that hurt. Cheesy


If where you live supports bats then put up some bat houses and that will take care of the mosquito's. And making sure there is no standing water on your property keeps the mosquitoes and flys away as well.

Wasps more dangerous than bees? Why? I mean, I don't really know. To me both are just annoying when it comes to me trying to relax. No big deal though... But if I can have then away of my close proximity I am happier.

Avoiding standing water on my property is not possible as I have a big pool just side to the house... It doesn't seem to particularly attract mosquitoes (probably because I have it chlorinated and perfectly clean all year round). Also mosquitoes don't bite me (or if they do, which probably do, I don't get an itch nor notice anything).

I will consider the bats houses thing (will google about it) as I don't mind bats... But I don't think my GF will approve that. It already took me a lot of effort reasoning about the convenience of putting some geckos (which she strongly and irrationally fears/hates) "housing" on the outside. Maybe my dislike of wasps/bees is also irrational. Go figure. It's my garden though. Smiley

Wasp, bees, bio warfare.

Wasps are more aggressive (many wasps are predators, while bees are vegetarian). Wasp stings are generally more painful than bee stings.

However, bee stings are more likely to cause serious anaphylaxis and death in allergic individuals.

Geckos are moderately useful for keeping mosquitoes in check. Bats are better, but they prefer to feast on small flies (fruit flies etc), usually more numerous than mosquitoes. They are also a good indicator of clean air, since they can't survive in heavily polluted areas.

The best bio-weapon for mosquitoes are ladybirds (ladybugs) from what I've heard and read. They are relentless predators of anything that moves. They are already effective at the larval stage. Preferred food: aphids, but they do eat mosquitoes too.

The ideal solution would be some aquatic predator that could clear mosquitoes while they're aquatic larvae, but I don't know about any widely adopted specific solution. Frogs anyone?
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I can’t tell you end of year.  My crystal ball stops at mid December.  And it says it’s going to be quite a bad time until then - low $6k / even high $5k possible.  After that it’s all grey mist.

I have turned on the fog lights and I find it hard to believe that we will see low levels by the end of the year.

Maybe if we all agree that Bitcoin could dump again and stop taking for granted that the halving will SURELY send BTC to new heights... then the chance for that happening would be higher. I remain scared by the amount of people expecting moon (ie: $50K-$100K) as an inevitable consequence to the halving. It could lead to a big dump even right after the halving if things don't go according to the "plan".

I agree with what you say, but my impression is that if we continue like this, I hope to finish around +/- $10,000, it is possible that this thought is due to my BTCullish feeling.

- The hash rate has increased this year to 90 exahashes, from approximately 40 at the beginning of the year.

- Those who bought at ATH and sold are gone.

- The new ones the vast majority become holders.

- Frankly I think we've never been better.

The biggest uncertainty is the institutional issue, big capitals that want to buy cheap, these, except for a major disaster, are the ones that can shake the tree.
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^

Wrong conclusion. Yes, higher frequencies are more easily absorved by the medium but that just means that:

It has less "penetration" (900MHZ/1GHZ is the better frequency for "penetration") because it is absorved and converted into HEAT. Can you calculate how much heat would a 5G tower txer would cause on your retarted head even at 10m distance? I can't be arsed to calculate it, but it is almost negligible.

Now put yourself under the sun in the open. *THAT* is some measurable radiation MANY orders of magnitude above your silly 5G towers. Or near an old (and leak prone) microwave oven. And we can cope with it. For all practical purposes.

I am a HAM and what you are saying is true.  The real issue with radiation damage from higher frequencies is proximity as well as power.  In fact there are several other issues like antenna type as well as RF band.

To be honest I think we are at much greater risk from our cellphones than we are a tower simply because we do not tend to be close enough to the tower to collect up any meaningful amount of non ionizing radiation, but our phones???  Different story.  Those we are very close to.  Sitting in our pockets they are constantly transmitting into our leg, not to mention when we talk on them.

I do not doubt that there *could* be medical issues from living too close to strong RF, but most of what the troll is talking about is paranoia.
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That is be call koreck

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New green wave incoming which make perfectly sense with the upcoming halving.

Excellent buying opportunity.


https://twitter.com/RiggsBTC/status/1201508094947332097


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^Nyet

But i think Phil_S or me has a good chance of winning prediction game...


Oh my!!!!!   You are talking about these kinds of numbers for December 31.  

>>>>>>>>>
6400       Phil_S
6500       JSRAW
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Cannot be looking towards either you or Phil_S for bullish inspiration, unless you change your mind(s) before then, at least not until the beginning of the year, perhaps?  I hope that both of you guys are wrong by a lot of numbers... In other words, orange number go up!!!!   Tongue Tongue

Hahaha, its just a small phase JJG.. don't forget we are on same boat Tongue And why both of us are wrong? please tell Phil_S is wrong, then i might share my winning with you. Grin

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Hairy bairy has a decent and potentially reachable number.  

>>>>>>>>>
9200       HairyMaclairy
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I am going to root for something in that arena - give or take $600... 30 days away, approximately.


I think, at current scenario Hairy might want to reconsider his calculation or may be he can give new numbers? he helped me with his vodoo thingy here and there. So will settle with his new numbers.

How about you pitch in and give us some number ? No TA or any diplomatic response (in which you excel Grin), only number, what do you say bhai ?  

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but here we are.. lower $7ks... and ongoingly saddened. and even some of us hoping that the bottom is already "in," rather than revisiting such mid-$6ks or even lower in the coming weeks... Tell me it's not true. Cry Cry Cry
I would love to back you up but no one is 100% sure in the cryptoland as far as short term is concern (which looks ugly atm). Long term case is different ball game though.

In the end speculation is all about cheer leading IMO. majority back their claims with TA and in my case SOMA  Grin so it means no harm whatsoever.

Fair enough response.

Frequently there is a difference between describing what we perceive to be taking place (or having had taken place), and figuring out the extent to which that description of the "is" can be used to predict what is likely to happen.

At this particular moment, I don't have any real inclination to add any predictive attempts to what I have already proclaimed.. and largely boils down to hopium for up rather than down... I think that we have had enough down, for now.

Currently, buy orders are set to start at $6,800 and they go down to around lower $4ks; however, if we get anywhere close to $5,500, I may have to jigger my orders a bit and maybe even reconsider my budget for possible lower lows... if that is even possible... so in other words, another selfish reason to prefer that we don't even go down is so that I don't have to make those jiggering efforts.

Up on the other hand, seems to be unlimited.  Up sell orders start at $7900-ish... and they never really seem to run out of BTC... so perhaps I am selling too little.. but whatever, it is my current plan.. to just keep BTC in reserve, but we all have seen already a large number of times that if the price shoots up too quickly then it is going to be difficult to sustain such UP.. even though we still have a lot of downseekers, that are in the class of jonoiv, who are still waiting to go back below $6k so they can buy back... I would prefer that BTC would punish those folks, too... but honey badger does not likely care what is my preferences.

I can’t tell you end of year.  My crystal ball stops at mid December.  And it says it’s going to be quite a bad time until then - low $6k / even high $5k possible.  After that it’s all grey mist.

Now you tell us.    Angry Angry Angry
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Good morning WO!
Observing @ $7,312
Noting to get excited in bitcoin price movement however something unexpected, something exciting happened earlier.

Someone sent 0.0021 BTC to my girls bDay address! I do not know who is that yet however a big big thanks is on the way!

This is becoming really exciting!! I wish my girl had a voice to say "Thank you uncle x" but she is too young to speak 🥰

I have been working on the BitcoinGirl.club project and will be collecting all the comments and wishes she had so far on her birthday and put them in the site.

What’s her bitcoin address? I will send her a little.

Edit - Found it, I will match the mystery Uncle donation of 0.0021

Edit 2 - Done, see 0.0021 extra in her address - https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/address/bc1q4qasfuyg2x3cvygaperrcqau5tt6qxqejwdl5u

Happy Birthday - From Uncle LFC Cheesy
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am not googling lol surprise doll wtf is that
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am not googling lol surprise doll wtf is that
I think it's something innocent. Lols are small dolls produced in a variety of skins and attires. The point is collecting them all. Some girls are crazy about them - toddlers to teenagers. Surprise doll? Must mean unspecified series/attire, or something like that.
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I can’t tell you end of year.  My crystal ball stops at mid December.  And it says it’s going to be quite a bad time until then - low $6k / even high $5k possible.  After that it’s all grey mist.

I have turned on the fog lights and I find it hard to believe that we will see low levels by the end of the year.

Maybe if we all agree that Bitcoin could dump again and stop taking for granted that the halving will SURELY send BTC to new heights... then the chance for that happening would be higher. I remain scared by the amount of people expecting moon (ie: $50K-$100K) as an inevitable consequence to the halving. It could lead to a big dump even right after the halving if things don't go according to the "plan".

That being said. I will personally keep hodling. But I hate to see so much "optimism" in advance. It could end badly.

What we need is more fear... and maybe even another pre halving capitulation. Or maybe not. Who knows.

In Bitcoinland everything is possible. Even a halving dump. I think not even the hardcore bulls here think for granted that several days after the halving the price will shoot up to 100K. It is possible, but not 100% sure. Even more, a price above 10K is not guaranteed as well. The effect of the halving can be felt only when the weak hands are gone and the whales stop dumping. I mean, we can't compare 900 BTC less on the market for a day, if we had some ponzi or individual dumping 100K BTC in several days. I think some of the dumps, if not all, were caused by few individuals who got quickly rich in BTC and hurry to sell them even with a 50% loss. Nobody can prevent a price crash then. BUT, what the halving means is that under the normal trading, the balance is changed in favour of the demand. So, we can expect the actual effect no early than 1 year after the event (which may be earlier, or later - again nothing is certain). And the effect will require also either many buyers, or a few but very rich to pump the price. And when the price surpasses 10K, it should be able to hold and stay above that. We almost succeeded keeping that price this Summer, but bad actors (manipulator shorters if they still exist, big miners with newer asics, weak hands) dumped too many BTC to crash the price. Hopefully, after the halving all odds will be in our favour. But nothing is granted, of course.

I will continue to buy moar and HODL, no matter the dissapointments. I have my beliefs, but not like a "idée fixe". If it happens - fine! if not, well I probably will still have at least 2x profit. I can live even with the loss in terms of fiat, like earlier this year. But I think that the current price is too low both for the miners and for the hodlers, so we should be able to stay away from the 6K area. If we fall below that, I will throw every fiat possible to find, even the kitchen sink,  Grin and buy moar! #stronghands #HODL
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December 02, 2019, 06:13:38 PM

Good morning WO!
Observing @ $7,312
Noting to get excited in bitcoin price movement however something unexpected, something exciting happened earlier.

Someone sent 0.0021 BTC to my girls bDay address! I do not know who is that yet however a big big thanks is on the way!

This is becoming really exciting!! I wish my girl had a voice to say "Thank you uncle x" but she is too young to speak 🥰

I have been working on the BitcoinGirl.club project and will be collecting all the comments and wishes she had so far on her birthday and put them in the site.

What’s her bitcoin address? I will send her a little.

Edit - Found it, I will match the mystery Uncle donation of 0.0021

Edit 2 - Done, see 0.0021 extra in her address - https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/address/bc1q4qasfuyg2x3cvygaperrcqau5tt6qxqejwdl5u

Happy Birthday - From Uncle LFC Cheesy
Aww!!! Early Christmas for my girl! 😍
Never thought to see this much love brothers.
Thanks giving will be on the way.
We will go for little shopping in this weekend.

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I can’t tell you end of year.  My crystal ball stops at mid December.  And it says it’s going to be quite a bad time until then - low $6k / even high $5k possible.  After that it’s all grey mist.

This is fine.
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Good morning WO!
Observing @ $7,312
Noting to get excited in bitcoin price movement however something unexpected, something exciting happened earlier.

Someone sent 0.0021 BTC to my girls bDay address! I do not know who is that yet however a big big thanks is on the way!

This is becoming really exciting!! I wish my girl had a voice to say "Thank you uncle x" but she is too young to speak 🥰

I have been working on the BitcoinGirl.club project and will be collecting all the comments and wishes she had so far on her birthday and put them in the site.

What’s her bitcoin address? I will send her a little.

Edit - Found it, I will match the mystery Uncle donation of 0.0021

Edit 2 - Done, see 0.0021 extra in her address - https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/address/bc1q4qasfuyg2x3cvygaperrcqau5tt6qxqejwdl5u

Happy Birthday - From Uncle LFC Cheesy
Aww!!! Early Christmas for my girl! 😍
Never thought to see this much love brothers.
Thanks giving will be on the way.
We will go for little shopping in this weekend.

Bro, no shopping! better you keep it for her and in 20 years she can buy a house with the SATs.  Roll Eyes
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wut LN on finex ain't no traders got time for that
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https://cointelegraph.com/news/hodlers-are-insane-64-of-bitcoin-supply-has-not-moved-since-2018?_gl=1*11f3tb*_ga*YW1wLUFiOURDTkxPMWN6UXZlMk4zLWwxV1o4ZmJyTUppOXBfM1hwdGxLSUJJQ3dsaUJPN0JTWkx0ZVZEU3FxZTc5bTM.


I thought the long term hodlers might enjoy this read!
Looks like 64% in strong hands




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Avoiding standing water on my property is not possible as I have a big pool just side to the house... It doesn't seem to particularly attract mosquitoes (probably because I have it chlorinated and perfectly clean all year round). Also mosquitoes don't bite me (or if they do, which probably do, I don't get an itch nor notice anything).

I will consider the bats houses thing (will google about it) as I don't mind bats... But I don't think my GF will approve that. It already took me a lot of effort reasoning about the convenience of putting some geckos (which she strongly and irrationally fears/hates) "housing" on the outside. Maybe my dislike of wasps/bees is also irrational. Go figure. It's my garden though. Smiley


Treated water is safe as you stated you chlorinate it so that will stop it from becoming stagnant. Here's a quick and simple explanation of the hazards of standing water.

http://filterbutler.com/blog/standing-water-danger-home/

Whats the reason for geckos?
General insect control?

I just read this.
https://pestkilled.com/common-house-gecko/



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Next, we're gonna try tanning our assholes in Aruba.

bob, tanning assholes in the sun is outdated. I read that people use 5G to ionize asses.

Thats only when using your prison wallet.




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Don't worry. I was there before. As soon as you touch ground again, you'll feel much better (hopefully). I guess you have seen "Bleep, the movie" on a high dose of hallucinogenics?

But that's not why i am even answering before putting you on ignore.
I am answering because i know somebody who died and was brought back by the paramedics, 20 minutes after a deadly heart attack. Luckily and against all odds, there were no consequences, no brain tissue damage BUT he insisted to have met his (dead) father, who asked him about his plans in life. No white light or whatsoever, sorry if there should have been one, according to the all-is-one religion.

An idiot is somebody who believes what he does or can not know.

Around 13 years ago i'd crashed my car against the bridge with high speed. I was bladly injured. When rescue workers freed me from my position 2 arteries popped in my arm and leg. The amounth of blood released was intens, as a result 2 fountains of blood spewing through the car. It was a disgusting sight. I lost consciousness because i lost to much blood.

I woke up in the hospital, not in bed but i was floating above the bed. I saw myself lying in bed with plastic tubes hanging in my nose, arms and mounth and all kind of wires on my chest. Docters doing stuff with me i had no notion of. Suddenly the hospital room disapeared, everything turned into white bright light. Flowers, tree's and plants appeared made from colours i'd never seen before everywhere i looked. It was very beautiful. I felt pure calmness, a warm blanket on me like a real sense of home.

Then everything disappeared, returned back to the hospital room when i saw myself moving to my body slowly. Everything turned pitch black. Opened my eye's i saw a woman looking at me. I told here why i'm doing here, please send me back i said. All came at the same moment: alarms from the machines, my hearth begun to pump like crazy, my loungs was bursting from air like staying to long underwater. Starting to feel the pain in my entire body and it hurted like hell. I lost consciousness.

According to the docter i died in the hospital. They even tried to revive me with the defibrillator 3 times with no result.

No, i didn't had a brain concussion. It was also not a dream. When you're running you cant command to stop ore looking to the left ore right you always go-with-the-flow.

Don't get me wrong i'm not a religious person but there are more things in heaven and earth then we know of.
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https://cointelegraph.com/news/hodlers-are-insane-64-of-bitcoin-supply-has-not-moved-since-2018?_gl=1*11f3tb*_ga*YW1wLUFiOURDTkxPMWN6UXZlMk4zLWwxV1o4ZmJyTUppOXBfM1hwdGxLSUJJQ3dsaUJPN0JTWkx0ZVZEU3FxZTc5bTM.


I thought the long term hodlers might enjoy this read!
Looks like 64% in strong hands






The problem will be when they are all headed for the exit at once..

In other words, 19k will be a tough bone..
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